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Yes, *one* bomb can do that. When you drop multiples on the same hole they can go deeper. Basically it's 200 feet of rock. The first one turns that rock into much softer rubble, so the second one can penetrate deeper. There is a diminishing return, but the first few down the hole will...

They built them deeply enough that no weapon in the world could reach them. So we designed the MOP specifically to do that. It is the *only* non nuclear weapon in the world capable of doing that, and the nineteen B2s are the only planes *in the world* capable of dropping them. Going deeper...

Should have given them a detailed briefing. About the planned 4th of July strike. Then "Things on the ground changed, we had to move up the timetable, and that meant the strike had to come from Whitman in Missouri and not from Diego Garcia...."

The difference is that Isreal has a couple hundred fully completed weapons that are probably stored in a deployable condition. As in a couple bombs here and a couple there at various airbase, etc... Much harder to get all of them than an enrichment facility that's basically a massive factory...

Rednecks with birdshot.

Knowing Mossad, they probably have a plan to steal it and replace it with natural uranium. The more Iran has to shuffle it around to keep it from getting bombed, the less secure it will be from good old fashioned espionage.

It's an inevitable consequence of letting people who pay no taxes vote on what services the government should provide. Nearly half the electorate doesn't pay any federal tax. Is it any wonder they vote for people who promise to spend money on them ?

Even if you wiped out 100% of their program and scattered all their uranium to the wind, it's still just a delay.

Supposedly their uranium was enriched to 60% (natural uranium is 0.7%). That's far more than reactor grade, but far less than weapons grade. They Supposedly had 330lbs of the 60%. If enriched further to 90% that's enough to make a few bombs. You can go from 60% to 90% far faster than you can...

Lots of stuff works very well, but it's too dangerous to allow. Asbestos is a fantastic insulator and fireproofing. Far better than the replacements. But we don't use it because it's dangers outweigh how good it is at it's job. A lot of the modern police powers are like that, and should be...

War is terrible, but sometimes the alternative is worse.

Had another thought about this. In the situation we are discussing, there *is no* government. Just a small neighborhood with a few hundred people. The closest thing we have to a world government is the UN, and that feckless sack of whiny dipshits couldn't run a lemonade stand, let alone deal...

The vast majority of the voters in those jurisdictions receive far more in government services than they pay in taxes. Most don't pay any real taxes. That's a recipe for dysfunction.

I am OK with the Marines in LA, but only because they *aren't* enforcing the law. They are protecting federal offices from rioters. That's a completely different thing. If they start arresting people then I will agree it's a problem, but as it stands now, it's not much different than them...

Our problem is that we put diplomats and bureaucrats in charge of military operations. And they try to start the nation building before the demolition phase is complete. You can't build a new nation until the remnants of the old one are obliterated. But we no longer have the stomach for that...

Only the ones who's national motto is "death to America". The fight is inevitable. Would you prefer we wait until after they have nukes ?

End of the block, and currently threatening to shoot at any delivery vans headed by his house. I get the desire to return to the Monroe doctrine and let the rest of the world burn. But we've tried that, it did not work out well. We got dragged into 2 world wars for our effort. How many more...

The Chinese government after WWII was just fine. They are a valuable member of the global community. You know them today as Taiwain. They just had a communist infestation that took the mainland from them, but that was *after* WWII. We probably should have supported the nationalists more, the...

LoL, no, we are not loaning out B2s. We don't even allow our closest allies to buy the F22, let alone the B2.

No, you don't take the guns from people who are dangerous like that. That would be stupid. You'll still have a dangerous lunatic running around who will undoubtedly get dangerous weapons anyway. You lock him up. But countrys aren't people. They don't have the same rights.

No, the world is not that big. It's more like the guy threatening us lives at the end of the block. He's not a neighbor, but he's close enough that if he starts shooting at his neighbor the bullets are going to end up at our house.

How would you feel if Iran got nukes ? You don't think they'd use them sooner or later ? You don't think that would mean their neighbors would all decide they need them too ? You want Egypt and the Saudis getting nukes ? A lot of bad things lie down that route. Better to stop Iran now...

What do you suppose happens if oil costs $40/barrel more in Europe than here ? People will buy it here and sell it there until the price difference is less than the cost to do that. And Trump is working on moving stuff back via tarrifs, but companies can't just pick up the Chinese factory and...

I've used the berrymans I linked above. Worked great. Used to get sold at every auto parts store, not sure if it still is. Gunk is probably similar. Do you have a vibratory tumbler for reloading ? If not, do you want one ? For small parts they can do a lot of what blasting does. Just...

Doesn't matter the price of oil is global. Doesn't matter where it's made, just matters how much there is vs demand. Plus, that straight carries half of all global trade, not just oil. If things get expensive in Europe the prices here will rise too. If they didn't people would just export it...

You either don't understand the situation in Ukraine, or you don't know what air superiority means.

Look at the surface. The whole thing has settled. The ground is probably 20 feet lower in the whole area now because all the underground areas collapsed. The bombs did exactly what they were supposed to do.

How does that matter ? Isreal established air superiority in a week over a country they don't even neighbor. Russia can't even do that over Ukraine in 3 years.

Before and after pics of Fordow https://nypost.com/2025/06/22/world-news/first-satellite-images-of-fordow-after-us-bunker-buster-bomb-strike-show-extensive-damage/

WWII. That was the last actual declared war. Everything since then has been just general fucking around. A fully mobilized US prosecuting a total war like we did in WWII would be severe enough to change the course of human evolution.

Needs to be both a clear and a present danger. So, needs to be both here and now. Dude in CA isn't a threat *right now*. Also, dude threatening to kill you tomorrow isn't a threat right now either. Dude threatening to stab you right here, right now, but with an imaginary knife isn't either...

If a guy holding a knife says he's going to stab you, you don't have to wait for him to swing it at you to eliminate the threat

If you have enriched uranium and natural uranium (as you would at an enrichment facility), and you blow it up, you basically just un-enriched all of the expensive stuff. Think of enrichment like this. You have a bin full of black sand with a tiny bit of red mixed in. About 60 pounds of sand...

Legally he would have to inform them within 48 hours if he launched the nukes. Pretty sure that'd be just a formality at that point.

The GBU-57 bunker busters penetrate 200 feet into the earth before detonating. There's probably not much to see. There's some pics of a shallow underground nuclear explosion to compare here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_(nuclear_test) That test was deeper than fordow (600 feet vs...

The war powers act only requires the president to inform congress within 48 hours of mobilizing troops. Then he has 60 days to prosecute whatever campaign he deems necessary. If congress hasn't approved the actions by then, he has another 15 ? days (IIRC) to withdraw the troops.

Unlikely, since they are deeply buried sites. Even if there was, it would be local contamination only.

They're modifying a C5 now for extra capacity in case they have to escalate to Rosie O'Donnell.

We call lots of things a war. War on drugs, war on poverty, etc... it's almost cliche. Certainly not every military action is a war. Would be hard to call Grenada or Panama a war. Kinda hard not to call Vietnam a war, but at the same time we *weren't* fully committed to it as a nation the...