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Somewhere between that and ROR for attempted murder is the happy medium.

It's true. OfC, out here people would consider that pepper spray weak enough that it should be in the mild section of the spice aisle at the grocery store too.

Typical left wing meme. They can't post an actual quote, so they have to make one up to finish the meme.

You forgot D). All of the above

Out here they sell pepper spray and stun guns everywhere. Even harbor freight https://www.harborfreight.com/pepper-spray-57518.html

It's called "Munchausen by proxy". Used to be a crime, before it became trendy.

It was Mike Waltz's account for sure. But was he the actual human that used that account to make that chat ? I've known guys who didn't send *any* of their own emails. They would tell a secretary to send something and the secretary would compose and send it using their boss's address. It...

That tells you what account added him, not what person. Or do you think Biden was personally sending out all the tweets with his name on them ? Hell, he wasn't even signing all the laws and pardons with his signature on them. There's at least even odds that Waltz told Wong to set this up and...

Maybe it will affect their career in a positive way if they end up leaving Rochester over it.

Almost all cops carry one. That makes them common as far as I am concerned.

It is, generally. And this wasn't a failure of signal itself. It wasn't hacked or anything. So, the scandal is that this guy got added to the chat, but the media seems to be trying to make it about the administration using Signal for the conversation. The investigation should be about how he...

But, signal *was* an officially approved secure communication method. The fact that someone added this douchebag into the chat is the breach, not that the rest of them were using it.

Did they say the housing couldn't be at a naval base ? Did they say the base couldn't be in Cuba ? Just asking...

Waltz took responsibility because it was *his* staffer. Why would Waltz even have this editor in his address book ? They golfing buddies or something ?

It's entirely possible for him to "insert himself" if the staffer who added him was acting under his direction. That really does raise the question of *why* he was added.

I am sure a mole that wanted to could sneak a recording device in. They're not giving everyone a cavity search prior to entry.

Yes, it was not OK that a staffer added the journalist to the conversation. If you don't find that suspicious, then I don't know what to say. They could have held it face to face in a SCIF if one of the participants was planning on smuggling out a recording, you would have the same result...

Do you have a link to the actual conversation? All I can find are articles discussing it and their conclusions are all apparent before you even read the headline. Just look at the URL to see where it's published and you know whether the article will claim it's either a nothing burger or it's...

Yea, he *could* have gotten 10 years each just for possessing them.

It's amazing that they put two people in prison for trafficking child sex slaves to nobody.

But, as it turns out, the reporter was sensationalizing the contents of the conversation to the point of outright lying about them. It's like anyone who believes anything they say without confirmation is a moron.

You are exactly right. They may very well have found a mole. Either that or an incompetent. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reveals-behind-signal-text-160232983.html

They just gave him the official "former president" crew. You may have seen them before in Butler, PA.

Grasping at straws. It's all they've got.

They have released the conversation. Turns out it's mostly a discussion about the political ramifications of acting or not and a discussion of whether it's in the US interests. Not really any operational military details at all. More a "Europe needs this, 40% of their trade goes through...

But, what if as the administration is saying, it *wasn't* classified information ? What if this Atlantic editor just got copied on their lunch plans and twisted it into something it wasn't, as modern journalists are prone to doing ?

He'll have to wait while the feds prosecute for domestic terrorism and possession of an unregistered destructive device. Those leftists don't know how serious the feds can take a bottle of gasoline with a rag in it. Might as well be an unregistered machinegun.

There is another issue here. Why were they using signal ? Why aren't there better secure channels for them to use at all ? There *should* be a secure channel for this type of discussion that is as easy to use as signal, such that they don't bother to use anything else, even for mundane...

That is blatant lies. He was not arrested for being "pro Palestinian". His green card was revoked for actively supporting a designated terrorist group. Hamas is as bad a terrorist group as there is. What do you suppose would have happened to a green card holder who was providing very public...

All they need are brown shirts and arm bands. They've got the swastika graffiti thing down.

Who is labeling ordinary protestors "domestic terrorists" ? I haven't seen anyone call for the sign wavers to be prosecuted unless they're blocking traffic or something. But, if you put the sign down and come back with a Molotov cocktail, then you're as "domestic terrorist" as it gets. And...

Who is calling for the arrest of people who are really just peacefully protesting ? Just because CNN calls it a "fiery but mostly peaceful protest" doesn't mean the arsonists should get a pass.

Nobody is talking about rounding up people marching on the sidewalk with signs. It's the people threatening or committing violence for political purposes (the textbook definition of terrorism) that need an all expenses paid vacation in an El Salvadoran prison.

Every vehicle on the lot is a very sophisticated surveillance system. IIRC, Musk directed them to turn "sentry mode" on for all of them a couple days ago. I guess they were leaving it off in the past to avoid the battery drain. You are not going to vandalize a Tesla Showroom without it being...

It's half.

To be fair, we only know what the Atlantic editor is telling us about this. He's claiming it was all super secure super secret details. But until we see what they were it could have been just vague discussions. So, if they had specific details of strike packages and times, that's one thing...

Violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives is actually the textbook definition of terrorism.

Schumer isn't stupid. He realized that a shutdown would play perfectly into DOGE's hands. Trump and Musk want to dismantle much of the goverment. Shutting it down falls under the "don't threaten me with a good time" doctrine. But most Democrats are too stupid to recognize that. I hope they...

I just hope the Dems don't come to their senses before the midterms.

OMG, I think that's the funniest thing I've heard so far this year LOL.

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, but maybe the real Nazis are the ones painting swastikas all over other people's property.

Well, it is an indication of whether they're strategic advisors well behind the lines or they're actually directly commanding troops. Sort of like the difference between the Contras in Nicaragua and the American Volunteer Group in China.

How many of them have been killed ?

If there is no government, then there is no sovereignty to invade. Syria ceased to exist as a country.

They keep launching rockets into Isreali cities. So, they might not be an existential military threat, but how many of your civilians need to be killed before you're justified in doing something about it ? It shows a lot of restraint that they *didn't* go in there when it was someone else's...

If the guy breaking in values my stuff more than his own life, who am I to second guess him ?

Wait, so you think Russia was justified in invading Ukraine because they didn't like them getting friendly with NATO. But you *don't* think Isreal was justified in moving in to mitigate the power vacuum after the collapse of the Syrian government ? How many terrorist rockets did the...

They should form an NGO "holding corporation". If the courts demand the government cut the check, then cut one to "Musk environmental holding inc" and let it sit there collecting interest until they can appeal far enough to claw it back. No way the actual legislation authorizing the spending...

Yes, Egypt moved their forces in *to contain Hamas in Gaza*. They are not worried about Isreal doing anything other than trying to give Gaza back again. And in case you missed it, the Syrian government collapsed completely. Isreal moved in because there was *no* government in those areas and...

I believe the phrase Egypt used was "those assholes are your problem now". Egypt took back a lot of offered territory and refused to take back Gaza explicitly.