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Sounds like a fun time. Looks like the local "guerrilla" forces are being led by ex Special Forces types. Talk about a learning opportunity.

Does that somehow disqualify me?

YES!!! YES!!! Fuck me baby!!!

Pretty sure the government they created was way closer to what I espouse than what you do.

I was talking to someone else. Someone who doesn't believe in theft under threat of violence.

This is the problem here. And at the last place. Not an honest argument to be found. Very few people willing to engage in anything beyond "no want Shrillary"; "O'Bummer is a Libtard". Not sure if it's ignorance, dependence on the sound byte news culture or something else. But this blind...

They would only do that if it was for the children or 3d chess. Fuck me.

Can you explain that? The constitution says taxation is good? And that those who dont go down on Black Hawks?

Honestly it kills me that you dont see all government as immoral. It's all using the threat of violence to force people to bend to their will. It appears that you're ok with that as long as it supports your views.

I call it "voluntaryism"

You're probably right. My inability to make a FN level machine gun blows my whole argument.

I knew that would bake your noodle. :)

I prefer to make over buy. I don't need the state or the rest of society to tell me how to behave.

But each is an individual. The smallest minority.

Not yet?? Do you even hear yourself?

My rights are 100% preserved. They don't come from inside the beltway.

Not participating doesnt make it worse. I dont like their guy or your guy. They both want to make government bigger and advance violence or threats thereof upon their own citizens.

That's the only choice. Huh?

So by living in this country I automatically consent to unconstitutional laws and theft via taxation? OK. Got it. You never answered my question from this morning.

I refuse to vote not because my voice doesnt matter, but because voting indicates consent to be governed by these shitstains. I could care less about them or their laws. I am a moral and free man and refuse to vote for my new master.

Duly noted.

You disgust me!

That's fine. I thought this was about facts, not feelings. Helpful if you state that up front.

How has the first impacted you? Specifically. Not "she would have done..." No wall (not that I want one), more anti gun legislation than Obama, no "lock her up". He hasn't done shit but tweet I have running water because I have a well connected to a giant aquifer, which is common in the NE US...

Actually, I don't. Please share what you see as benefits.

Tell me about a time where your vote made a difference and what it changed.

@Celt I disagree that "people" ruined it. Politicians did by corrupting themselves and others in order to enrich themselves. We trust them to do certain things and they do the opposite.

You have lots of choices to minimize how the government steals from you. From renting vs. owning, to registering your car in another state that doesnt have inspections or exorbitant registration fees. Try paying some folks in cash vs credit card. Try offering customers different rates for cash...

Why do we "have to play the game"?

So it's either this current government or Somalia? Nothing in between? That feels intellectually dishonest.

Exactly how does Donald Trump, or any part this government serve your interests?

Not writing in names. Voting simply shows you condone the corrupt system our government has become. If you somehow think all of this government is necessary, I don't understand you. There is zero need for 99.999999% of our government. They screw up everything they touch and they corrupt the...

If your meaning is the standard false dichotomy of "one asshole is better than the other", you need to brush up on logic, politics and economics. I think.

Did he promise that? There are like two politicians in the planet that would actually die trying to solve that.

Yeah. IMO @Carlos Hathcock called it. Meeting with them carries the assumption that they are trying to represent you the constituent. They dont. You dont enrich them. You are merely someone to be tolerated. It's a big club. And you ain't in it.

...and the wall, and the repeal of Obamacare, and etc...

Take guns first, due process later.

No squirrels. No rabbits. Foxes, yotes, deer, fisher, all manner of birds, Turkey, bats galore.

Alligator? Do tell.

Draining your wallet?

ScoSgt lives!

Yep. Dude is doing this intentionally. I'd suggest ignoring going forward. Since OP isnt engaging in their inflammatory thread, this should probably be closed.

How's that ballot box workin' for ya, Bob?

No pistol permit so no experience. Sorry sir.

Because fuck you. That's why.

My feet taste like an earthy blend of crimini mushrooms and sumatran coffee. Or so I'm told.

The bill of rights was about what the government couldn't do, not what the citizens could. That being said, all governments corrupt themselves eventually, so it's kind of a moot point.

That cunt has done nothing. He didnt ban anything, save anyone, or improve any lives. Fuck him and his whole corrupt crew.