2 cops shot serving warrent at wrong address

[Toecutter]

2 Officers Shot Went to Wrong Address to Serve Warrant

Here is another situation where 2 cops were shot serving a warrant at the wrong address. Another incident where a CI gave bad info and police acted on it with what seems to be very little investigation. Lucky no one lost their life. Another innocent American is going to have his life ruined defending himself against the war on drugs.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Like given for the useless war on drugs.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Like given for the useless war on drugs.

It's a cash cow

 

[Doc8404]

Surprised they didn’t just open up once he fired.
Whether he dropped it or not.

“Another officer returned fire, but no one was hit. ”

 

[ECU Pirates]

Cops are lucky he most likely used birdshot. They want to go breaking into houses on tips from low life’s then this will happen more and more. F the dectives and the judge. They played the stupid game and got the prize.

 

[Mk44]

If I was that dad... I would be telling my daughter- this neighborhood sucks, it's time to move.

 

[ECU Pirates]

If I was that dad... I would be telling my daughter- this neighborhood sucks, it's time to move.

Why? Because the cops broke in? There are dealers in nice areas and no knocks happen there also. Thsg being said I ha enough clue if it’s nice there or not.

 

[Mk44]

Why? Because the cops broke in? There are dealers in nice areas and no knocks happen there also. Thsg being said I ha enough clue if it’s nice there or not.

Yes, there are dealers in nice areas. but they're not in all areas.
Imo, if I had to worry about drug dealers that were living in the same apt complex or cops raiding an apt in the same complex. I wouldn't want to live there. And I'm sure none of us would neither.
Hell, I would rather live in a tiny basement apt somewhere else.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes, there are dealers in nice areas. but they're not in all areas.
Imo, if I had to worry about drug dealers that were living in the same apt complex or cops raiding an apt in the same complex. I wouldn't want to live there. And I'm sure none of us would neither.
Hell, I would rather live in a tiny basement apt somewhere else.

Your kidding right? Drug dealers are everywhere now. You could move 100 times and be very close to a drug dealer every time unless you live way out in the country. Drug dealer are in cities large and small now a days.

So what the hell did these cops do? Just some guy says hey there’s a drug dealer that loves there and they went and kicked the door in? Did they do any research? My dad says they need an undercover to do two drug buys in my area to get a warrant. 2 drug buys from an actual cop.

 

[Toecutter]

Doesnt look like a bad neighborhood from what I can tell looking on redfin and goggle maps.
There is lorring pl and drive right in the same neighborhood.

 

[kev74]

The team knocked on the door of the top-level unit and announced they were there, but no one answered. Despite the silence, the team had a feeling someone might be inside the apartment, so they used a device to open the door, according to police.

Who wants to bet they treated their 'knock' warrant like a 'no-knock' warrant?

 

[Darth]

What is this no knock horseshit?

"But they will flush the evidence/get prepared if you knock."

So the lives of officers and other civilians are worth less then getting that conviction eh?

Nice.

 

[MothMan]

Who wants to bet they treated their 'knock' warrant like a 'no-knock' warrant?

And the device used to open the door was probably a battering ram.

 

[kev74]

And the device used to open the door was probably a battering ram.

Or an explosive. The toys don't do you any good if you don't use them.

 

[Celt]

Who wants to bet they treated their 'knock' warrant like a 'no-knock' warrant?

From the article it sounds like they did. And i say good for the citizen. Lets hope that PD learns a lesson and does better homework next time.

 

[ECU Pirates]

What is this no knock horseshit?

"But they will flush the evidence/get prepared if you knock."

So the lives of officers and other civilians are worth less then getting that conviction eh?

Nice.

I like my how you called police civilians. They are. I don’t care what others say!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

In the video the chief says he won't be holding the shooter criminally responsible and it does sound like they treated a knock as a no knock because they may be disciplined.

 

[Airborneguy]

See now this I can understand the self-defense protection. Wrong house, shooter not a perp. Cops messed up. Warrants are dangerous for many reasons, that’s why you get it right or don’t go. But when it’s done right, claiming self-defense and winning doesn’t sit right with me.

I did a consent search last week. We waited outside until the guy came out. My partner was a little nervous. I did my research and knew the guy was supposed to be heading to a DV anger management class. Sure enough, he stepped out and we grabbed him. My life is worth the extra work.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

But when it’s done right, claiming self-defense and winning doesn’t sit right with me.

By done right do you mean right place right person?

 

[Airborneguy]

By done right do you mean right place right person?

Yes.

Last week we were talking about a case where the info was correct, the crime was a felony, a cop died and the guy got off on self-defense. I can’t agree with that one.

The crime was trivial in the grand scheme of things, but that’s not the cops’ fault. As has been said here numerous times, it is not really the cops responsibility to pick and choose laws to enforce. If the populace is dumb enough to vote for fools who make stupid laws, then the role of the cops is to enforce them.

Personal views aside, how can it be self-defense to fight back against a lawful arrest? If that’s the case, then law enforcement needs to stop completely.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Yes.

Last week we were talking about a case where the info was correct, the crime was a felony, a cop died and the guy got off on self-defense. I can’t agree with that one.

The crime was trivial in the grand scheme of things, but that’s not the cops’ fault. As has been said here numerous times, it is not really the cops responsibility to pick and choose laws to enforce. If the populace is dumb enough to vote for fools who make stupid laws, then the role of the cops is to enforce them.

Personal views aside, how can it be self-defense to fight back against a lawful arrest? If that’s the case, then law enforcement needs to stop completely.

Was a warrant served and if so was it a no knock?

 

[Airborneguy]

Yes

 

[Acer-m14]

"A confidential informant told police a drug dealer lived there, but the resident was actually a father who didn't know officers were trying to get in his home, Prince George's County Police Chief Hank Stawinski said during a news conference Thursday."

this right here .. i bet he or she became a CI because he/she did something bad and got jammed up .. .. give us names and will cut a deal and go soft on you .. who's your supplier .. give up some names .. another dealer will good too .. will put in a good word for you ..

then no one did any home work .. just went for the warrant

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Yes

So are you of the opinion that this person loses their right to self defense if someone other than police breaks into their home? Also, what if this person legitimately didn't know it was the police breaking in?

 

[ECU Pirates]

Was a warrant served and if so was it a no knock?

I think it was over 4 ounces of a plant. The ci made it sound like this guy was moving pounds of said plant. They kicked the door in and a cop died. Kind of a dumb thing to die for. I think the shooter was acquitted.

 

[Airborneguy]

So are you of the opinion that this person loses their right to self defense if someone other than police breaks into their home? Also, what if this person legitimately didn't know it was the police breaking in?

Someone other than the police? No.

A legally obtained warrant resulting in the correct person being charged with the correct crime doesn’t sound to me like a situation where self-defense should apply.

Regardless of whether they knew it was the police coming in, the police were on the right side of the various laws involved and the information was correct.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Someone other than the police? No.

A legally obtained warrant resulting in the correct person being charged with the correct crime doesn’t sound to me like a situation where self-defense should apply.[/QUOTE What if it’s a minor Crime and the warrant is not executed correctly?

 

[Airborneguy]

That’s society’s responsibility to correct. The cops did the right thing by the laws duly passed by those who employ them. If the people don’t want the cops enforcing minor laws, don’t pass minor laws. Recall, no mistakes were made.

I shouldn’t have to make a choice between my job or my death because the people's representatives have passed “minor” laws.

The laws they passed were being enforced legally against the right person. Self defense? Fuck no. That’s why I choose keep a violent mindset always. Appease no one, I rather kill them.

 

[Marine Cpl]

That’s society’s responsibility to correct. The cops did the right thing by the laws duly passed by those who employ them. If the people don’t want the cops enforcing minor laws, don’t pass minor laws. Recall, no mistakes were made.

I shouldn’t have to make a choice between my job or my death because the people's representatives have passed “minor” laws.

The laws they passed were being enforced legally against the right person. Self defense? Fuck no. That’s why I choose keep a violent mindset always. Appease no one, I rather kill them.

At some point, you have to choose though. I'm pretty sure if politicians passed laws for no knock warrants for certain things that violate your oath, a no knock warrant for a freedom of speech violation or a no knock warrant for gun confiscations in a time of crisis, you'd have to take pause. I don't think you would blindly charge in for such a thing.

At some point, you gotta say no. It's too far. But I understand drugs aren't a Constitutional right so you are right about fighting it out with the politicians for that.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Someone other than the police? No.

A legally obtained warrant resulting in the correct person being charged with the correct crime doesn’t sound to me like a situation where self-defense should apply.

Regardless of whether they knew it was the police coming in, the police were on the right side of the various laws involved and the information was correct.

How would that person defend themselves at all then? How are you supposed to know who's breaking through your door? That's just a bizarre stance.