2 Men charged with murder of unarmed man Ahmaud Arbery in GA

[Blimey]

Surprised this hasn’t been up yet—apologies if repost.

Thoughts on this vid? I know what it looks like (two guys murder another guy) but we’ve been burned before by misrepresentations of what really happened.

The story is this guy was just going out for a jog. But if I saw two guys stopped, one with a shotgun, trying to talk to me and jogging I would have bailed to the right away from the truck. I just wonder what happened before this.

Georgia shooting case will go to grand jury as disturbing video surfaces online

 

[GOPerfect]

I read about the story a couple days ago. Apparently, the guy shot was looking into a home that was built in the area. Couple of guys started yelling at him and he ran away. They chased him down to "arrest" him. A struggle got underway and he was shot.

Let's see how Georgia law is???

 

[Blimey]

I read about the story a couple days ago. Apparently, the guy shot was looking into a home that was built in the area. Couple of guys started yelling at him and he ran away. They chased him down to "arrest" him. A struggle got underway and he was shot.

Let's see how Georgia law is???

If that really is what happened, they will have to be charged.

 

[GOPerfect]

If that really is what happened, they will have to be charged.

I beleive so, unless I am mixing up two stories..... Hang on.

 

[GOPerfect]

A Georgia man was chased and killed while jogging, his mother says

A Georgia man was chased, shot and killed while jogging more than two months ago, and his family is calling for justice.

www.click2houston.com

 

[Toecutter]

Attacking a guy with your bare hands while he is holding a shotgun on you is a mistake you only make once.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Attacking a guy with your bare hands while he is holding a shotgun on you is a mistake you only make once.

Give him points for bravery but have to deduct for stupidity.

 

[Doc8404]

I read about the story a couple days ago. Apparently, the guy shot was looking into a home that was built in the area. Couple of guys started yelling at him and he ran away. They chased him down to "arrest" him. A struggle got underway and he was shot.

Let's see how Georgia law is???

Weird. I read the jogger ran through there everyday. He lived there. And people have him on camera just jogging each day.
That was the day after the shooting.

 

[Toecutter]

Weird. I read the jogger ran through there everyday. He lived there. And people have him on camera just jogging each day.
That was the day after the shooting.

If thats is the case these guys have some explaining to do.

 

[Doc8404]

If thats is the case these guys have some explaining to do.

And now I just read a former prosecutor says they should be ok.
Time will tell. The zoo will riot anyway.

 

[Blimey]

Weird. I read the jogger ran through there everyday. He lived there. And people have him on camera just jogging each day.
That was the day after the shooting.

So is this is true the father son can’t even pretend they were trying to arrest a burglar (which of course is still stupid and would result in charges after what happened).

News just broke they were arrested.

If he was just going for a jog they are going to get a quick conviction but why did it take so long to arrest them?

 

[holdover]

Obviously we don't have all the facts , The story can change tomorrow.

The media is saying that 3 white men murdered a jogger they didn't know , in broad daylight, in the middle of the street because he was black.

Doesn't pass the smell test. But they may have the wrong guy too. That's possible. Don't know. In any case these guys are perfect example of how not to apprehend a total stranger. Thier stupidity is going to cost them a long time in jail.

 

[GOPerfect]

More information is coming out. Some say his home is more than 12 miles away from this area.

It was put out that he has been arrested multiple times for burglary.

Arbery was arrested in December of 2012 by Glynn County Schools Police for bringing a handgun into the Brunswick High gymnasium during a basketball game. When an officer spotted the .380 caliber handgun in his waistband, the then 19-year-old Arbery attempted to flee. Knocked down a bunch of other students while trying to get away from the Police.

Not sure what the truths are, time will tell.

I again, will wait for all the facts to come out.

 

[Rap]

And now I just read a former prosecutor says they should be ok.
Time will tell. The zoo will riot anyway.

"The zoo."
This young man was someone's son. Circle back when your kid is murdered by a couple entitled, zealous yokels with another flippant comment...clown.

 

[GOPerfect]

"The zoo."
This young man was someone's son. Circle back when your kid is murdered by a couple entitled, zealous yokels with another flippant comment...clown.

Some communities act in ways that are not civil. Instead of waiting for facts to come out, prior to waiting for the investigations to occur, many different types of people act out in a way they should not. YouTube is filled with videos of these types of actions.

I hope all of the facts; good, bad or indifferent, come out prior to people talking to the streets and act like animals.

I can remember places like Ferguson, remember the lies that were told? Remember the destruction that occurred to public and private property? Remember the horrible ways that people acted/ I sure do.

This is one of more than a hundred examples that can be found. I can list more if needed.

Yeah, it is like an out of control zoo.

 

[Rap]

Some communities act in ways that are not civil. Instead of waiting for facts to come out, prior to waiting for the investigations to occur, many different types of people act out in a way they should not. YouTube is filled with videos of these types of actions.

I hope all of the facts; good, bad or indifferent, come out prior to people talking to the streets and act like animals.

I can remember places like Ferguson, remember the lies that were told? Remember the destruction that occurred to public and private property? Remember the horrible ways that people acted/ I sure do.

This is one of more than a hundred examples that can be found. I can list more if needed.

Yeah, it is like an out of control zoo.

Ok, officer.
Exactly what community do you mean?

 

[GOPerfect]

Ok, officer.
Exactly what community do you mean?

Whichever community that acts out at the time. The groups of people that act like fools and animals prior to understanding the facts of a case or an investigation.

Another person that feels compelled to bring a job into a conversation. Why? My opinions were the same when I was a Soldier and a warehouse manager.

 

[GOPerfect]

Ok, officer.
Exactly what community do you mean?

Why communities are you thinking about?

 

[Rap]

Whichever community that acts out at the time. The groups of people that act like fools and animals prior to understanding the facts of a case or an investigation.

Another person that feels compelled to bring a job into a conversation. Why? My opinions were the same when I was a Soldier and a warehouse manager.

Your job is relevant. It's been demonstrated repeatedly that cops will suppress, distort or create evidence which blocks the actual facts from coming to light in everything from murder and drug cases to simple traffic stops. Innumerable examples can be found. Some communities find themselves dealing with this reality constantly. What to do when the justice system is untrustworthy?

 

[tirwin1]

Video tells part of the story. At this point in time I want to know the whole story. It doesn't look good for the shooters. Shooting unarmed people is rarely justified.

I do wonder why this has become a national story. What narrative is supported with this story? Are there other stories that might counter this narrative that are not being promoted by the mainstream press?

 

[GOPerfect]

Video tells part of the story. At this point in time I want to know the whole story. It doesn't look good for the shooters. Shooting unarmed people is rarely justified.

I do wonder why this has become a national story. What narrative is supported with this story? Are there other stories that might counter this narrative that are not being promoted by the mainstream press?

I guess it depends on how the video is looked at. I wish there was more to the video, a full video without the camera moving so much.

I know nothing of Georgia law, not sure how the laws are interpreted down there. The further south one goes, the weirder the laws get. my guess is the law is written in an odd style, if not, the two would have been arrested already.

 

[GOPerfect]

Father and son charged with murder of unarmed black man Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia

A family is demanding answers after a 25-year-old unarmed black man was shot and killed while jogging in southern Georgia.

abcnews.go.com

They have been arrested.

 

[Shadow2]

Based on the article and report. Former LEO / Investigator for the local DA, profiled the guy for local robberies. Him and his son decide to confront the guy. They are claiming citizen arrest. Rules change without that badge buddy.

 

[tirwin1]

After reading about this story it looks like there was no justification for the shooting and the two people should be arrested. New facts might change my position but that is what the evidence leads me to conclude.

My main point however is - why did this become a national story when there are other stories of white joggers being murdered by non-white people?

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Please note this is not an attempt to say the shooters in GA should be freed. From the evidence available thus far it is hard to see how they could have possibly justified the shooting.

My point is there are all kinds of crimes that are committed every day. Why are certain ones determined to be "national news" while others are not? Why do the crimes that get national publicity tend to support a certain narrative when other crimes that support a different narrative ignored? Are the crimes that get national attention purposely selected to advance a particular narrative while the stories that might counteract that narrative suppressed? As the saying goes "inquiring minds want to know."

 

[spat]

What to do when the justice system is untrustworthy?

Not burning down your own neighborhood for a start.

If that's your reaction that is a sign that you're part of "the zoo".

There are times when extra legal remedies may be necessary, but burning down your own neighborhood is seldom the right answer.

 

[seezur]

I don’t know, I always question these stories nowadays. Zimmerman was proven to have been justified, so was the cop in Ferguson, etc. 99% of the time these innocent Rhodes scholars are committing a crime and are violent felons. I will admit the video looks damning but whenever a white person gets recorded shooting a black person it’s sensationalized by the media.

 

[spat]

I don’t know, I always question these stories nowadays. Zimmerman was proven to have been justified, so was the cop in Ferguson, etc. 99% of the time these innocent Rhodes scholars are committing a crime and are violent felons. I will admit the video looks damning but whenever a white person gets recorded shooting a black person it’s sensationalized by the media.

The story as reported looks disgusting.

We have learned over and over not to trust the reporting.

I have to say, it's going to be pretty hard to justify, but who knows what the real details are.

Remember this story is coming from the same industry that claimed a Kentucky gun range was the Syrian Civil War and that the Revolution was fought to preserve slavery.

 

[Criticalt]

After reading about this story it looks like there was no justification for the shooting and the two people should be arrested. New facts might change my position but that is what the evidence leads me to conclude.

My main point however is - why did this become a national story when there are other stories of white joggers being murdered by non-white people?

Joe Biden Wants To Talk About Black “Jogger” Ahmaud Arbery—Why Won’t He Talk About These Raped/Murdered White Joggers? | Articles

Ahmaud Arbery attracted suspicion by running thr...

vdare.com

Please note this is not an attempt to say the shooters in GA should be freed. From the evidence available thus far it is hard to see how they could have possibly justified the shooting.

My point is there are all kinds of crimes that are committed every day. Why are certain ones determined to be "national news" while others are not? Why do the crimes that get national publicity tend to support a certain narrative when other crimes that support a different narrative ignored? Are the crimes that get national attention purposely selected to advance a particular narrative while the stories that might counteract that narrative suppressed? As the saying goes "inquiring minds want to know."

I know what youre saying but....
I believe the main reason for it going national is the fact that the shooter was not arrested.
Apparently the truck is obviously the shooters, the video obviously shows the shooter and the shooter never denied shooting.

 

[Darth]

More information is coming out. Some say his home is more than 12 miles away from this area.

It was put out that he has been arrested multiple times for burglary.

Arbery was arrested in December of 2012 by Glynn County Schools Police for bringing a handgun into the Brunswick High gymnasium during a basketball game. When an officer spotted the .380 caliber handgun in his waistband, the then 19-year-old Arbery attempted to flee. Knocked down a bunch of other students while trying to get away from the Police.

Not sure what the truths are, time will tell.

I again, will wait for all the facts to come out.

Curious what any of this has to do with this situation?

 

[Toecutter]

Even if this guy was burglarizing homes, killing him should not be justified , he was obviously running away. Follow him ,call the police ,get some clean pics and he would be picked up later there is no hiding in this day and age.
There seems to be more than is being told .