30-06 Accelerator's

[nortatoga]

I bought a box of these years ago, never shot them but I had to have them! I believe they are discontinued. Pretty cool round and fast 4080 fps!! I have read that the sabots gum up the barrels pretty good though.

 

[dsdmmat]

I was going to buy some for reloading. You can still buy the sabots and the tool for seating the bullet in them.

 

[nortatoga]

Just realized I put this in the wrong thread topic!! Mods move if you would? @NYGuns

 

[Darth]

Damn, that's cool. crazy they don't rip apart t that speed.

 

[Exonautic]

what caliber is the bullet? .223? assuming since its 55gr.

 

[Marine Cpl]

But wouldn't that plastic disintegrate in the barrel and then the smaller bullet would bounce off the walls of the barrel?

 

[Jaywmustang]

I haven't seen those in a long time. I think they made a 30/30 version. Heard they were fast but not accurate.

 

[meketrefe]

IMO if you want to shoot 55gr bullets get a nice 223 rifel otherwise accuracy is not there.
For a varmint bullet one can waste 55gr bullets this way or one can propel a 100gr to 110gr 30 caliber bullet to 3,600-3700fps
and with a good 30-06 rifle can actually win a 100 or 200 yards score competition with them.
Also 125gr speer TNT value packs are an amazing value for varmint shooting.

 

[XP100]

I have a couple baggies of the Sabots, Someplace around I have load data for 30/30, 30-06 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherbyand several others that use 308 bullets. I tried them. Pretty decent out to about 125 yrs. after that they are all over. I think a couple stated over 4800 FPS. I think that would peel the jacket off the bullet.

 

[nortatoga]

IMO if you want to shoot 55gr bullets get a nice 223 rifel otherwise accuracy is not there.
For a varmint bullet one can waste 55gr bullets this way or one can propel a 100gr to 110gr 30 caliber bullet to 3,600-3700fps
and with a good 30-06 rifle can actually win a 100 or 200 yards score competition with them.
Also 125gr speer TNT value packs are an amazing value for varmint shooting.

Meke I agree completely with you. I bought these just before I bought my first Remington 700 in 223, the reason the box is still full!

I just posted about them figuring some may have never seen this round. And generate some more firearms talk!

 

[stuck in ny]

I'm surprized that countries still armed with 7.62x39 weapons haven't explored sabot rounds to investigate high velocities for performance against armor.

 

[XP100]

They won't leave any rifling marks on the bullet either. I am surprised they are not outlawed for that reason.

 

[Podmonkey]

 

[nortatoga]

Cool video!!

 

[Podmonkey]

Can't you launch a 55gr bullet at 4000+ fps from a .243 without the use of a sabot? In fact I know you can, went shooting with a guy from the old place that did just that with his .243 stevens. We were vaporizing water jugs with it.
Case in point, with a 22-250 though:
Its slower but the effect is very similar.

 

[meketrefe]

I'm surprized that countries still armed with 7.62x39 weapons haven't explored sabot rounds to investigate high velocities for performance against armor.

They have done that. It is called the 5.45x39 that is the service round of the soviet union in the AK-74 since 1974.
No quite as powerful, accurate and versatile as the 5.56 but a step in the right direction.

 

[spat]

meh, you need to take one of the .22 in a .30 cal sabots and put it in a .30 in a .50 sabot and load that into a 50BMG.

When you put 220grns of powder behind 60grn projectile interesting things are going to happen....

Theres overbore, then theres the powder outweighing the projectile 4:1. Your mv would be basically the limit of what can be done w/ smokeless powder, maybe 5500f/s or so.

The thing might fly as straight as Liberace throwing a football, but it would do it very fast

I bet someone has done it on youtube, I've got to go look now LOL.

 

[twax100]

I had a buddy that showed up on a coyote hunt once with his dad's old 06 and a box of these. First time I've ever seen them before. I'm not sure how they'll fly either but they're pretty neat.

 

[Podmonkey]

meh, you need to take one of the .22 in a .30 cal sabots and put it in a .30 in a .50 sabot and load that into a 50BMG.

When you put 220grns of powder behind 60grn projectile interesting things are going to happen....

Theres overbore, then theres the powder outweighing the projectile 4:1. Your mv would be basically the limit of what can be done w/ smokeless powder, maybe 5500f/s or so.

The thing might fly as straight as Liberace throwing a football, but it would do it very fast

I bet someone has done it on youtube, I've got to go look now LOL.

That mess would disintegrate in the barrel and make a sound like somone screaming "Seriously!?".

 

[stuck in ny]

They have done that. It is called the 5.45x39 that is the service round of the soviet union in the AK-74 since 1974.
No quite as powerful, accurate and versatile as the 5.56 but a step in the right direction.

I mean using the same cartridge, like in these "accelerator" rounds.

 

[Phauxtoe]

How accurate are they

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

They won't leave any rifling marks on the bullet either. I am surprised they are not outlawed for that reason.

Yep. People are missing the point. They shoot a bullet that leaves no rifling out of the wrong caliber gun. They are assassin's bullets.

 

[Phauxtoe]

I know I got the point

 

[ManrisFrack]

Yep. People are missing the point. They shoot a bullet that leaves no rifling out of the wrong caliber gun. They are assassin's bullets.

Dude, shut up. You're gonna find yourself quoted in some idiot NYC legislator's next bill.

 

[spat]

That mess would disintegrate in the barrel and make a sound like somone screaming "Seriously!?".

I did say interesting

No joy on anyone having tried it that I can find though. I figured one of those guys who microwave loaded glocks would have done it.

I went looking for info on the State Arms Mach 5 at the same time, that was a real rifle that fired a wildcat 50BMG necked down to .375, supposed to be over 5000f/s, but theres sparse info at best for that out there either.

 

[nortatoga]

Unless you reload, these are discontinued! But it has started a good conversation. Surprised that little twerp @Dayten hasn't chimed in! Must be on a Timeout!!

 

[Podmonkey]

Unless you reload, these are discontinued! But it has started a good conversation. Surprised that little twerp @Dayten hasn't chimed in! Must be on a Timeout!!

@Dayten is alright, I wish we had more young people around. If only to dilute the concentration of musty, crusty old guys around here.

 

[stuck in ny]

Dude, shut up. You're gonna find yourself quoted in some idiot NYC legislator's next bill.

For crying out loud, think before you give the king ideas.

 

[Plater1]

They made these in .308 too. I wonder how much this box is worth?

 

[nortatoga]

@Dayten is alright, I wish we had more young people around. If only to dilute the concentration of musty, crusty old guys around here.

Yes he is! But we don't want his head to swell!! LOL!!!