9mm vs .45 ACP

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BMF JK said:
As @Will556 stated I just don’t see the benefit of .45 over 9mm .
I do however see a point of a niiiice 1911 in the ole .45 for nostalgic reasons .
A nice 1911 is on my want list , but I’d more than likely go 10mm at that point . Oh the blasphemy !
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Oh I agree, a nice 1911 is cool to have. Just as you, I also don’t see the benefit to running a 1911 nowadays. A gun that was designed in the late 1890’s…before the first Ford Model T rolled off the production line. I’ll give the 1911 it’s due, it had a great run and did what it was intended to do for a long time. But just like an ever aging fighter, they gotta know when it’s time to call it quits when there are younger, faster, more equipped fighters out there. 1911’s are not the most practical. For me, I’d rather get a badass 2011 like a Staccato, Triarc, Atlas…

Quick side note, it’s quite apropos we are discussing the 1911 today since it was on February 14th 1911 that Browning’s patent was issued for the 1911…Valentine’s Day! A date always easy to remember.
 
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Will556 said:
Oh I agree, a nice 1911 is cool to have. Just as you, I also don’t see the benefit to running a 1911 nowadays. A gun that was designed in the late 1890’s…before the first Ford Model T rolled off the production line. I’ll give the 1911 it’s due, it had a great run and did what it was intended to do for a long time. But just like an ever aging fighter, they gotta know when it’s time to call it quits when there are younger, faster, more equipped fighters out there. 1911’s are not the most practical. For me, I’d rather get a badass 2011 like a Staccato, Triarc, Atlas…

Quick side note, it’s quite apropos we are discussing the 1911 today since it was on February 14th 1911 that Browning’s patent was issued for the 1911…Valentine’s Day! A date always easy to remember.
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Well ain’t that a fun fact !!
 
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Will556 said:
Just like @That_FNG said, shot placement is much more crucial than the caliber itself. If shot placement is more critical, wouldn’t you choose the caliber that allows for better follow up shot placement than the other? It’s not just a concept that 45acp recoils more than 9mm but just a plain fact. With modern technology of cartridges being what it is, 9mm is able to inflict comparative damage (and sometimes better) to soft tissue and barriers than it’s big brother. I’m not saying shooters are not able to shoot 45acp quickly, cause they can. But if you can shoot 45acp quickly, you can shoot 9mm quicker. 9mm recoils less, which means quicker follow up shots, more rounds on target accurately, you can carry more rounds, it’s physically less weight to carry than 45acp, it is cheaper to shoot. If more people were honest with themselves and weighed the pro’s and con’s, there would be even more people carrying 9mm than before.
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That's pretty much the conclusion from the video test I linked on first post. Makes sense
 
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Will556 said:
Just like @That_FNG said, shot placement is much more crucial than the caliber itself. If shot placement is more critical, wouldn’t you choose the caliber that allows for better follow up shot placement than the other? It’s not just a concept that 45acp recoils more than 9mm but just a plain fact. With modern technology of cartridges being what it is, 9mm is able to inflict comparative damage (and sometimes better) to soft tissue and barriers than it’s big brother. I’m not saying shooters are not able to shoot 45acp quickly, cause they can. But if you can shoot 45acp quickly, you can shoot 9mm quicker. 9mm recoils less, which means quicker follow up shots, more rounds on target accurately, you can carry more rounds, it’s physically less weight to carry than 45acp, it is cheaper to shoot. If more people were honest with themselves and weighed the pro’s and con’s, there would be even more people carrying 9mm than before.
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Will,

it is ok not everyone can shoot a Man’s caliber.


/sarcasm
 
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BMF JK said:
At the risk of making some one butt hurt this thread needs a reference I believe it was @Edwardteach72 who once referred to 45 as the .45 AARP

Still cracks me up !!
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Yeah you whippersnappers think you are so funny.
When I was in school…..

lmao, I have to admit I got a good belly laugh from that one too.
 
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For the longest time I did not have a 9x19 in my house. It was either .22LR, .357 Magnum, 38 Super, .45ACP or .380 (for the first wife). When I divorced her I didn’t have a .380 in the house either. I don’t think I picked up a 9x19 until my second wife wanted the S&W 908 (around 1999- 2000) well I got rid of her too but I kept the gun, she also had a long slide Compensated Glock in 40 S&W. I got rid of both of those guns in 2003. The 908 came back to me when my B-I-L died in 2017, I just got rid of it again in 2021 (hopefully for good this time).
I really dont think I had a 9x19 in the house until 2014 after returning from my second tour in Afghanistan, I picked up a Beretta 92FS. I am old so it could have been sooner when I bought the S&W SD9VE but it wouldn’t have been much sooner (maybe a year or two). Which was my first striker fired gun ( I didn’t count the Glock my second wife had because it was hers).

Fast forward to today I have quite a few 9x19s and even quite a few Tupperware guns (striker fired). Funny how times change. I still carry a .45 1911 as my edc though. I do have a few 9mms stashed around the house for emergencies.

I am an old dog, stubborn and set in my ways, but I have learned a few new tricks along the way.
 
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Edwardteach72 said:
Just get a .40sw

You get best of both worlds
.45acp stopping power but with 9mm capacity
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Or...if you want the recoil of a .45acp with the capacity of a 9mm. The compact polymer Glock 27 pistol chambered .40 S&W was the "flippiest" pistol I've ever fired (granted, I'm limited to exposure to calibers 22LR - 45ACP).
 
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Will556 said:
Oh I agree, a nice 1911 is cool to have. Just as you, I also don’t see the benefit to running a 1911 nowadays. A gun that was designed in the late 1890’s…before the first Ford Model T rolled off the production line. I’ll give the 1911 it’s due, it had a great run and did what it was intended to do for a long time. But just like an ever aging fighter, they gotta know when it’s time to call it quits when there are younger, faster, more equipped fighters out there. 1911’s are not the most practical. For me, I’d rather get a badass 2011 like a Staccato, Triarc, Atlas…

Quick side note, it’s quite apropos we are discussing the 1911 today since it was on February 14th 1911 that Browning’s patent was issued for the 1911…Valentine’s Day! A date always easy to remember.
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I say we take the 2011 platform and bring it into the modern age.

Get rid of that heavy frame, replace it with lightweight polymer. Drop the troublesome hammer and replace it with a sleek striker. Bring the price down about $1200-1500 in the process.

Glock 19.

Perfection.
 
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