A-1589, Requires a purchaser of any firearm to submit to a mental health evaluation
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Bananabandit
.338 Win Mag
Can we get one when Cuomo is up for reelection?
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Read section three in senate bill.
You must have a mental evaluation before being allowed to buy a firearm. It’s easy all you have to do is see our psychiatrist at the NYS Office of Mental Health.
You must have a mental evaluation before being allowed to buy a firearm. It’s easy all you have to do is see our psychiatrist at the NYS Office of Mental Health.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
But if you live in Ny, you gotta be nuts!
No gun for you!
No gun for you!
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Tik Tok Tik Tok. 3, 2, 1 LEO exemption.
"Tik Tok Tik Tok. 3, 2, 1 LEO exemption."
Boooorrrring!
Boooorrrring!
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
They do that after they pass the law, remember?
96coal449
.308 Win
Where's the middle finger icon?
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Wow this would be a disaster. These mental health checks are super opinion based and highly subjective. Any DR against guns would just say no guns. Then not only would you not be able to purchase the new gun but you would lose all of your other guns and future gun rights.
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
Poll tax.....
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
its against my religion to go to a doctor .. now what FUAC ..
Oh, that's easy ! The "professional" you will have to interview with will be hand picked and appointed by El Duce. (S)He is NOTa doctor. Probably doesn't have any psychological training. May not have graduated high school. The only requirement will be to get a rise out of you during the interview ( which will by videotaped for evidence ) to prove to a judge that you are a threat to society. Then, Red Flag request is rubber stamped and you get a no-knock visit at 3:45 am a few days later.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Both my assembly person and senator are democrats so a lot of good it will do but this legislation has got me worked up / pissed off. If you feel like using any or all to bust out a copy to your reps. please do.
I am a registered Democratic voter in Onondaga county and I would like to know your position on assembly bill A-1589A / S-7065. This is regarding the requirement of a NYS approved mental health examination by a NYS approved doctor following a NYS approved form / questionnaire in an approved NYS location prior to purchasing a firearm. I find this proposed legislation an egregious infringement to the rights provided me by the Constitution of the United States. For you to support this legislation would demonstrate you lack of concern for the law abiding citizens in your district. This is not about public safety we do not have blood running in the streets of New York. This is about downstate legislators trying to earn political credibility by exerting more control over law abiding citizens.
So please tell me where the criminals or gang members will be interviewed. Oh that is right you know that criminals and gang members will not pay any attention to this ridiculous legislation. Therefore it will ONLY impact law abiding citizens. If you support this legislation will all New Yorkers be subject to it? Will you fall under it or will judges or law enforcement how about the governor? Shouldn't we extend this legislation to educators? Wouldn’t it be beneficial to know if an educator harbored deviant thoughts prior to be hired? Or will you carve out special exemption to further divide New Yorkers. We already know that the criminals will be exempt.
The notion that citizens of the United States of America must comply with the order to be subjected to a state devised mental health examination to exercise their constitutional rights is repugnant!! What will be next a mental health exam in order to register to vote? Who would decide this? Oh sorry I know that answer it will be a New York State approved doctor who is a member of the majority political party. Then of course the next step will be to apply this type of legislation to the First Amendment because people must be crazy if they criticize state government. You know this usurpation of rights will not stop.
The governor says people leaving New York State, because of harsh weather. I say they are fleeing because of subjugating legislation such as this. The Democrat party own the problems of New York State poverty, high taxes, residents leaving, failing infrastructure, lack of employment, crime, reduction in federal representation and funding have all been created by the Democrat party and Governor Cuomo. So how do you try to correct these problems? You propose legislation to further dominate the lives of the remaining residents and drive them out. Is this legislation part of Governor Cuomo's philosophy that conservatives have no place in New York? What is your opinion of his remarks regarding this?
I expect a timely response to this message any support that I might offer you will be based upon you reply.
Respectfully,
MOTHMAN
I am a registered Democratic voter in Onondaga county and I would like to know your position on assembly bill A-1589A / S-7065. This is regarding the requirement of a NYS approved mental health examination by a NYS approved doctor following a NYS approved form / questionnaire in an approved NYS location prior to purchasing a firearm. I find this proposed legislation an egregious infringement to the rights provided me by the Constitution of the United States. For you to support this legislation would demonstrate you lack of concern for the law abiding citizens in your district. This is not about public safety we do not have blood running in the streets of New York. This is about downstate legislators trying to earn political credibility by exerting more control over law abiding citizens.
So please tell me where the criminals or gang members will be interviewed. Oh that is right you know that criminals and gang members will not pay any attention to this ridiculous legislation. Therefore it will ONLY impact law abiding citizens. If you support this legislation will all New Yorkers be subject to it? Will you fall under it or will judges or law enforcement how about the governor? Shouldn't we extend this legislation to educators? Wouldn’t it be beneficial to know if an educator harbored deviant thoughts prior to be hired? Or will you carve out special exemption to further divide New Yorkers. We already know that the criminals will be exempt.
The notion that citizens of the United States of America must comply with the order to be subjected to a state devised mental health examination to exercise their constitutional rights is repugnant!! What will be next a mental health exam in order to register to vote? Who would decide this? Oh sorry I know that answer it will be a New York State approved doctor who is a member of the majority political party. Then of course the next step will be to apply this type of legislation to the First Amendment because people must be crazy if they criticize state government. You know this usurpation of rights will not stop.
The governor says people leaving New York State, because of harsh weather. I say they are fleeing because of subjugating legislation such as this. The Democrat party own the problems of New York State poverty, high taxes, residents leaving, failing infrastructure, lack of employment, crime, reduction in federal representation and funding have all been created by the Democrat party and Governor Cuomo. So how do you try to correct these problems? You propose legislation to further dominate the lives of the remaining residents and drive them out. Is this legislation part of Governor Cuomo's philosophy that conservatives have no place in New York? What is your opinion of his remarks regarding this?
I expect a timely response to this message any support that I might offer you will be based upon you reply.
Respectfully,
MOTHMAN
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
when I took the time yesterday afternoon to write my $hit bag senators and assembly I mentioned as a side note ...We aren't Leaving due to the weather!!!!! duh.... but they wont get it.
E the massive
.308 Win
Everybody should start calling the NY department of health to set up an appointment. Let's see how long that lasts.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
Maybe like the state police ammo log. they will have to suspend it for a little while till they figure a way for the process to work.
they will them hire all democrap people to do the interviews to give a break to the judges that deny people and then they can do it for them.
give them judges a break...whew!!!!
they will them hire all democrap people to do the interviews to give a break to the judges that deny people and then they can do it for them.
give them judges a break...whew!!!!
E the massive
.308 Win
If it passes but gets suspended like the ammo database, what are the chances a FFL will do a transfer to anyone but LE?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Meet Cumos new mental health director.
Just be sure to wear a cervical collar or chain mail for your interview.
Robin Freud
Just be sure to wear a cervical collar or chain mail for your interview.
Robin Freud
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
YOU your mental, and your mental, and your mental too. the whole lot of ya mental....no guns for you!!!!
your mental!!
Based on MY PROFESSIONAL Opiniion!!!!
your mental!!
Based on MY PROFESSIONAL Opiniion!!!!
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
FirstRifle
.40 S&W
Correct me if this is wrong......
Presently, to be bestowed with a pistol permit in NYS, the applicant must submit to and pass a "mental health" check, and a county judge must review and approve the application, among other things. I have no idea how a mental health check is done.
I believe that a county judge has judicial immunity and therefore the judge could not be sued by a victim of a firearm related if a legal pistol permit holder is found guilty of such a crime. Therefore, judges can safely approve pistol permits having done their due diligence in reviewing the application for a pistol permit .
However, if this proposed bill becomes law, would the "mental health professional" assessing the would be purchaser of any long gun or hand gun likewise have some sort of legal immunity from tort law?
If there is no immunity, I would think that a mental health professional would not approve anyone for the purchase of a long gun or hand gun, and therefore the mental health professional avoids exposing themselves to the potential for a lawsuit.
With this scenario, no one would be approved to buy a long gun nor hand gun.
Presently, to be bestowed with a pistol permit in NYS, the applicant must submit to and pass a "mental health" check, and a county judge must review and approve the application, among other things. I have no idea how a mental health check is done.
I believe that a county judge has judicial immunity and therefore the judge could not be sued by a victim of a firearm related if a legal pistol permit holder is found guilty of such a crime. Therefore, judges can safely approve pistol permits having done their due diligence in reviewing the application for a pistol permit .
However, if this proposed bill becomes law, would the "mental health professional" assessing the would be purchaser of any long gun or hand gun likewise have some sort of legal immunity from tort law?
If there is no immunity, I would think that a mental health professional would not approve anyone for the purchase of a long gun or hand gun, and therefore the mental health professional avoids exposing themselves to the potential for a lawsuit.
With this scenario, no one would be approved to buy a long gun nor hand gun.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well then, I guess you figured out their end game! Congrat's!!!!
Robin
Robin
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Think of the ramifications. In NY if you are not a gun owner you can assume they're nuts.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
What happens when the citizens of NYS just say FUNYS, and do as they please in buying and selling their own property? If I recall correctly, the state doesn't get any vig from the black market.