They didn’t test anything, Sig underbid to get the contract…selling the guns at cost to the government.
Used it as a marketing tool to sell overpriced guns to consumers.
The way our government runs, kickbacks wouldn’t surprise me.
All things Sig P320 (love em or hate em)
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Used it as a marketing tool to sell overpriced guns to consumers.
The way our government runs, kickbacks wouldn’t surprise me.
I have questions about this fatality. The first and foremost: Why would the Airman take his loaded gun off and lay it on a surface in such a way the barrel is pointing at his chest?
This just seems to go against every gun safety training course I have ever had.
Those are all good questions
They're likely on video seeing as this is a nuclear base feel like there's a good chance this area was under surveillance.
Regardless, the circumstances still seem to indicate the p320 appears to have malfunctioned and fired on its own while secured in a holster and not being touched....
Maybe, however the Air Force Safety office will get to the bottom of it. Then we can FOIS the report in about a year.
While this does violate gun safety rules pistols SHOULD NOT DISCHARGE IN A HOLSTER! Period.
I don’t disagree.
That_FNG
.308 Win
So has the P320 series of pistol negligently and/or unintentionally discharged hurt or killed more people than the Clintons have?
That is doubtful.
Well, the P320 has 3 dead and more than a dozen injuries so far but the Clinton's are probably well ahead of that
Not yet, but time is on the 320s side though.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Blame the customers, refuse to accept any responsibility. Yea that's going to work out really well for your company....
They have become the Boeing 737max of guns
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Honestly, Sig has become the laughing stock of the firearms industry. They have a bad product. They know it and everyone knows it. If they had just owned the problem and issued a recall if would not be getting the flack that it does today.
My very first pistol was a Sig P250 (the hammer fired predecessor of the P320). I also own a P226 a P365 (my everyday carry) and a P365XL. I purchased a P320 when they first came out. They were part of the original "recall but not really a recall" that supposedly fixed "the problem that wasn't a problem." I've never had an issue with it but I also do not trust it. It's a safe queen right now with occasionally use at the backyard range (no one else will allow it lol). I'll probably hold onto it because I'll never be able to get anything for it.
I'm not going to get rid of any of my other Sigs but I do not plan on buying another one anytime soon. The actions of this company have soured (or should be sauered) me to patronize them anymore.
My very first pistol was a Sig P250 (the hammer fired predecessor of the P320). I also own a P226 a P365 (my everyday carry) and a P365XL. I purchased a P320 when they first came out. They were part of the original "recall but not really a recall" that supposedly fixed "the problem that wasn't a problem." I've never had an issue with it but I also do not trust it. It's a safe queen right now with occasionally use at the backyard range (no one else will allow it lol). I'll probably hold onto it because I'll never be able to get anything for it.
I'm not going to get rid of any of my other Sigs but I do not plan on buying another one anytime soon. The actions of this company have soured (or should be sauered) me to patronize them anymore.
More bad news for fans and owners of the P320…
www.breitbart.com
Holster Company Halts Manufacture of All Sig Sauer P320 Holsters
Pro 2 Customs announced Friday that it will no longer make holsters or "[provide] custom services" for Sig Sauer P320 pistols.
www.breitbart.com
According to some of the information I have read on the interwebs ( take that for what it is worth) the airman who died was the desk sergeant and was not the airman who took the gun and holster off his belt and placed it on the desk. This twist to the story makes a lot more sense than the initial story. The desk Sergeant would not normally wear plates or soft body armor due to the level of security in the area they are at for their shift. I am sure the USAF is going to charge the Airman negligent homicide (because that is what they do) and convene a courts martial. The good news in all of this is what really happened will come out in both the criminal investigation and the safety investigation. No hiding the truth.
With all the bad press around the 320 maybe magazines will become available at reasonable prices.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
I’ve seen that movie. We can’t handle the truth.
Brawny71
.223 Rem
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
He pulled the trigger. Every time. There’s a drywall screw jammed in front of the trigger shoe, which is NOT a Sig factory trigger shoe. Surprise. That gun has been modified. Next…
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Just checked (without the Sheetrock screw) all 6 of my 320s ( 4 legions, M17 and M18) none of them would fire. I also had a counseling session with all of them about uncommanded discharges. I am confident I have nothing to worry about.
none of my 320s had the amount of play the one in the video with the Sheetrock screw in the trigger did.
none of my 320s had the amount of play the one in the video with the Sheetrock screw in the trigger did.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
So many goons are trying to be “the one that finally has irrefutable, repeatable proof” that a gun will fire when the trigger is pulled.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
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I don't know about the Air Force, but the Army takes any sort of unintended discharges (including out of battery. explosions, structural failures, etc. ) very seriously and any involved are immediately pulled and sent to the Weapons Repair Station for security and a full examination/investigation...Saw it with a MK19 that Kboomed.
Actually it depends on the unit. I often have to call them and have the unit sequester the weapon until a logistics agency representative can examine it.