Alleppo falls , radical terrorists wiped out, Obamas folly .

[holdover]

Syria Says Government Forces Now Control 98 Percent of Eastern Aleppo, (they hold the west)

Syria's military said pro-government forces now control of 98 percent of eastern Aleppo, including the neighborhood of Fardous which has been held by the rebels since 2012.

Lieutenant General Zaid al-Saleh said the battle for the city was entering its final stages.

"The battle in east Aleppo should end quickly," he told a group of reporters in the recaptured Sheikh Saeed district, according to Reuters. "They [rebels] don't have much time. They either have to surrender or die."

Pro-Assad forces now control 98 percent of eastern Aleppo, Syria says

Obamma backed radical Islamic Terrorists are dying by the bushels.

 

[C3D]

There's nothing to celebrate here. Each of the factions is worse than the next. It was better when they were just killing each other.

 

[holdover]

Im glad, the Syrians got their city back from the US backed ISIS terrorists

 

[ProgSpear]

Obama Out Of Office Countdown Clock | Counting Down To

 

[Catskillkid]

For the innocent people just trying to live their lives who get caught in the crossfire I feel sorry for them. Other than that, I could care less. Assad is a brutal dictator along the lines of Saddam Hussein and Mummar Gaddafi (among others) but at least he's a secular dedicator (read we can reason with him). The majority of these so called "rebels" are radical Islamic terrorist directly or indirectly affiliated with ISIS who want to create a theocratic government based on their twisted religion. In other words I have a hard time feeling sorry for either one of them.

Worst of it all, the civil war in Syria seems to have given all Middle Eastern and North African countries cart blanch to invade mainland Europe and take over there. That's what really pisses me off.

 

[holdover]

""Assad is a brutal dictator""

As if ISIS are peaceful ones? What did Assad do that was worth a 5 year war?

 

[C3D]

And let's not forget the underlying and direct cause of the Syria conflict is Obama's half assed withdrawal from Iraq and his not supporting Mubarak in Egypt and Qaddafi in Libya during "Arab Spring". Over 400,000 dead in Syria alone - and counting.

 

[ProgSpear]

and Obummer did not support the Iranian "Green Revolution". Effectively he supported the ayotollah's and mullah's in Iran.

 

[holdover]

And let's not forget the underlying and direct cause of the Syria conflict is Obama's half assed withdrawal from Iraq

That's partially correct, The Muslim brotherhood in Syria was funded and aided by the CIA to overthrow Assad . PArt of what happened in Benghazi was that arms were being sent to Syria ""Allegedly"" through the Clinton foundation after the overthrow of Qaddafi. Arab spring was a CIA backed operation and still is.


and his not supporting Mubarak in Egypt and Qaddafi in Libya during "Arab Spring". Over 400,000 dead in Syria alone - and counting.

They wanted instability in the Mid east they wanted to get rid of those guys ,If the operation in Syria was going to work they needed to stop support for Assad .

The civil war in Syria is stunningly brutal and vicious. but the 400,000 dead came after the war started , it wasn't grounds for the war. It was a US backed effort to overthrow Assad using mostly foreign fighters from Saudi Arabia , the Kurds ,Libyan's Tunisians and from other countries in the Mid east .the ISIS group from Iraq joined the fight on both sides.

By sheer coincidence All of the immediate threats to Israel have been neutralized . Excluding Iran and Saudi Arabia Israel has become a regional power .

 

[Uzi]

I'm just still wondering why we have a known terrorist still in office?

 

[99cummins]

I feel for the innocent and average folks just trying to live their lives. While I am far from an expert on matters like this, it's likely they are getting rid of one group of assholes for another.

 

[Phauxtoe]

what ever happened to Carpet bombing?

 

[holdover]

Its to dangerous , that shit will kill somebody

 

[Criticalt]

Unfortunately Eastern Alleppo is only 2% of the city, so, 98% of Eastern Alleppo isnt much.

 

[carpediem]

I wonder if Assad thinks the same of Barack and Hillary for interfering with his sovereign nation as Barack and Hillary think of the fake Russian interference in our elections? Makes the two of them seem like hypocrites..... aw hell, they are hypocrites.

 

[holdover]

Unfortunately Eastern Alleppo is only 2% of the city, so, 98% of Eastern Alleppo isnt much.

The Syrian army already controls , all of Western Aleppo, Our media likes to play spin games .

Aleppo has almost entirely fallen to Syrian government forces, state media and Russian officials said Monday after a sustained attack on rebel-held areas packed with civilians.

"The battle in east Aleppo should end quickly," he told a group of reporters in the recaptured Sheikh Saeed district, according to Reuters. "They [rebels] don't have much time. They either have to surrender or die."

Government forces already control the west of Aleppo

 

[dsdmmat]

About time.

 

[Frankly]

According to the NBC news it's nothing but Russians roasting babies on bayonets. They didn't mention killing ISIS so it must not have happened

 

[holdover]

I thought that was John Podesta.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Good Q&A by Canadian - News from there is based on "some guy" and a fraud group.
‘Lies are their agenda’: Canadian journalist blasts MSM Syria coverage at UN event (VIDEO)

 

[Phazer]

There's nothing to celebrate here. Each of the factions is worse than the next. It was better when they were just killing each other.

As Netanyahu told the U.N. with regards to Iran, "Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy."

No "good guys" there at all.

 

[Frankly]

Especially in the Middle East but for all of these conflicts I think we ought to let them fight it out and decisively win one way or the other. Instead we try to mediate and all that happens is the conflict festers for years and they continue to pick at each other while keeping the innocents mired in poverty and misery.

If we "have" to do anything then blockade and embargo them, don't give them anything (weapons or food) and let them go at with sticks and stones but settle it and get it done. Shooting those concerned journalists and UN do-gooders would be a good idea too.

Better to have quick, bloody decisive conflicts and let the losers lose. What we end up doing with our meddling is expand the conflict into a war. The F-ing John McCains and such would damn well start a nuclear WWIII over some mud hut villages in some place we can't even pronounce.

Let the strong survive and the weak perish, just like they will in the end anyway.

If the Palestinians simply lost and made peace 60 years ago then now they'd be the richest Arabs in history by virtue of trading with Israel. Same with Syria and everyplace else, they're idiots and there are too damn many of them so let em shoot it up.

 

[holdover]

Mediate?? I hardly call that Mediation . Every country in the mid east hostile to Israel has been bombed or overthrown since 911 With the exception of Iran which is still on the ""things to do list ""and Jordan which is openly friendly to Israel ( or else)

One problem is the US is funding the jihadis, Why? Because if they didn't it would give Iran a monopoly on the mid east . somebody has to stop the shites . (Iran)in Iraq and in Syria .

General Wesly Clark 2002:

the Saudis have basically recognized that they have an enormous stake in the outcome in Iraq, and they don’t particularly trust the judgment of the United States in this area. We haven’t exactly proved our competence in Iraq. So they’re trying to take matters into their own hands.The real danger is, and one of the reasons this is so complicated is because — let’s say we did follow the desires of some people who say, “Just pull out, and pull out now.” Well, yeah. We could mechanically do that. It would be ugly, and it might take three or four months, but you could line up the battalions on the road one by one, and you could put the gunners in the Humvees and load and cock their weapons and shoot their way out of Iraq. You’d have a few roadside bombs. But if you line everybody up there won’t be any roadside bombs. Maybe some sniping. You can fly helicopters over, do your air cover. You’d probably get safely out of there. But when you leave, the Saudis have got to find someone to fight the Shias. Who are they going to find? Al-Qaeda, because the groups of Sunnis who would be extremists and willing to fight would probably be the groups connected to al-Qaeda. So one of the weird inconsistencies in this is that were we to get out early, we’d be intensifying the threat against us of a super powerful Sunni extremist group, which was now legitimated by overt Saudi funding in an effort to hang onto a toehold inside Iraq and block Iranian expansionism

 

[speedkills27]

prophetic, or just someone who understands the nuances of a region and culture that hasn't changed with the restof the world

 

[Mosinitis]

Our foreign policy is 100% in line with the interests of Saudi Arabia. Israel will be surrounded by enemies no matter what is the outcome. Blaming everything stupid our government does on Jews and Israel is getting old. Our government is capable of fucking up on it's own. Did Israel sent us to Vietnam, which killed 58,000 Americans.
Is CIA ran by the Jews?
U.S. government is dominated by WASPs, if you need to blame someone.

 

[holdover]

Israel and Saudis interests are both in line, and even though the Saudis are the most radical motherfuckers in the mid east for the time being they have a vested intrest in seeing the shites do not expand power in the Mid east.
Israel enemy's have all been weakened to the point that that cannot contest Israel at all except for Iran .
#2 Israel isn't exactly A victim country like they have played though out history . They have blood on their hands too .
#3 Israel has never been asked to verify its nukes before the UN Like Iran and Iraq has , Double standards will get no respect .
#4 Im not blaming ""everything on the Israel (Not the Jews) But the fact remains that they have the largest foreign lobby in Washington
#6 Israel did not send us to Vietnam, but Israel did not come and fight alongside us troops in ANY war
the US government has plenty of Israeli supporters , and the us politicians are dominated by Money , many WASPS are more than happy to help the Israeli lobby . How much money has the Russian lobby gave? None, because Isreal is a favored state why? It aint because they support the US in its wars . Its the money
Denying the Israeli influence on American politics is ridiculous , they spend a great deal of money supporting their candidates from overseas which is completely Anti American on its face. Take a hard look at that map and tell me what happened to Egypt? to Libia? tusnisia? Syria ? Iraq? and tell me what they have in common. all of them were former enemy's of Israel. Im not making that up . that's not my opinion , that's a hard cold fact . You think Arab spring was coincidence? you think it was a real peoples uprising? it was backed and funded by the US and isreal. so what is the result? Nobody (except Iran) can threaten Israel in the next 15-25 years . That wasn't an accident , it was by design .


Senate
(9 Democrats, 1 Independent)

Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Benjamin Cardin (D-MD)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Al Franken (D-MN)
Brian Schatz (D-HI)
Bernard Sanders (I-VT)
Charles Schumer (D-NY)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
House
(18 Democrats, 1 Republican)

David Cicilline (D-RI)
Stephen Cohen (D-TN)
Susan Davis (D-CA)
Ted Deutch (D-FL)
Eliot Engel (D-NY)
Lois Frankel (D-FL)
Alan Grayson (D-FL)
Steve Israel (D-NY)
Sander Levin (D-MI)
Alan Lowenthal (D-CA)
Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Jared Polis (D-CO)
Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)
Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
John Yarmuth (D-KY)
Lee Zeldin (R-NY)*

 

[holdover]

Heres the problem , guys like this:

My name . . . comes from the word shomer, guardian, watcher. My ancestors were guardians of the ghetto wall in Chortkov, and I believe God actually gave me that name. One of my roles, which is very important in the United States Senate, is to be a shomer — to be Shomer Yisrael [guardian of Israel]. And I will continue to be that with every bone in my body.” Charles shumer

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422307/



You think this shit is ok? There are many people in the US government who put the interests of Israel before the interests of the American people, and sorry, that I have a problem with . Maybe if they at least spilled their blood next to our soldiers I might give them a pass but they don't. Maybe if Israel actually had any strategic value in the world I could give them a pass ,maybe if Israel's economy was so large that it improves the quality of life for Americans I could give them a pass.. there is no good reason to support Israel at all . None. Sorry .
I don't mean to be insultive toward the American Jewish people but I have to call a spade a spade here. MY country would benefit from Trade with Iran more than its ridiculous allegiance to Isreal . its a bad joke , we get nothing from it.

 

[Mosinitis]

29 people out of 535 is not exactly a Jewish takeover of Congress. Saudi Arabia is no friend of Israel. Mubarak was friendly to Israel. Israel never fought a war with Libya and Tunisia. You are making a weak case. Israel is not a member of NATO, they didn't fight in our wars and we didn't fight in their wars. They have a lobby in Washington and so what. Our government doesn't support a lot of their policies.

 

[Mosinitis]

Zionist movement (which pre-dates Israel) is about resettling Jews in their own homeland. It began as a result of pogroms in Russia and then came the Holocaust which proved Zionists were right. Biden is a politician, who will suck up to any voting block, just like Hillary claimed her grandmother was Jewish.

 

[holdover]

29 people out of 535 is not exactly a Jewish takeover of Congress.

No of course not, but the Isreali lobby extends far beyond that , Many if not all WASPs support Isreali lobby .

Saudi Arabia is no friend of Israel.

Yes , but for the time being their interests are compatible.( shites) They have haven't said they want to wipe Isreal off the map either.

Mubarak was friendly to Israel. He was , they were afraid of what might come after Mubarak

Israel never fought a war with Libya and Tunisia.

No but Quadaffi openly disliked Israel, He called for the Palestinians to revolt they weren't friends either .

You are making a weak case. Israel is not a member of NATO, they didn't fight in our wars and we didn't fight in their wars.
we didn't take apart the biggest threat to Isreal? (Iraq?) oh yeah they had WMDs I forgot. Come on you don't think the Israeli didnt lobby push for that?

WHY ARE THEY NOT A MEMBER!!!??We openly armed and trained Israel with American weapons , they are supposed to be an allie of the US and they don't do jack squat . sorry but that door swings both ways . you want to be allies? then you fight along side your allies . who the fuck needs an ally like them? what good are they? were spending billions of dollars over decades to defend these people who wont lift a finger to defend us? No thanks man. Spend the money here on Americans. One of the main reasons for Bin ladens attack on the US was its support for Israel, personally I can care fucking les what he thought, but the point is we would be much better off if worried about our own problems and let Isreal solve it own problems We don't need to be involved in the radical Mideast . I can care less if they kill each other forever , The US cant solve their problems . I don't like to see US money and US lives spent in the Mideast for no good reason .

They have a lobby in Washington and so what. Our government doesn't support a lot of their policies

Like the Iraq war? or never bringing Isreal up on charges involving nuclear weapons programs or war crimes ? cut it out