Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?

[Bigfoot]

As long as this states' politics are dictated and dominated by f'n NYC ( sorry nyc guys ) liberals it will continue to escalate and become increasingly painful to buy ammunition or firearms. NY would be a red state if we could only clip "the city" off the map. Two new states West New York and New York. Of course, it will never happen because no way the libs are giving up the tax cash cow.
All these firearms laws and regulations are incremental advancements to the END GAME. And we all know exactly what that is and what they want it to be.

 

[Acer-m14]

here is a sign for all the FFL's store windows ..

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

IMO, shaking the bugs out of any NYS/NYSP background check data base will cause much angst for some ammo purchaser. Feels like a sting operation to me


Going to Gettysburg in near future. Gonna make the rounds of local Wally Worlds and LGS for ammo.

Will never bUY ammo in NYS if have to do NYS background check.

@PA Guns & Ammo , is there travel trailer parking near your store?

You can park out front.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

In PA, we do not ask for ID when buying ammo except if you look under age. You have to be 18 and older to buy long gun ammo and 21 and older to buy hand gun ammo. You can buy hand gun ammo if you are in the ages of 18-20 if you are using it in a long gun. Also, you cannot be a prohibited person.

 

[thughes]

In PA, we do not ask for ID when buying ammo except if you look under age. You have to be 18 and older to buy long gun ammo and 21 and older to buy hand gun ammo. You can buy hand gun ammo if you are in the ages of 18-20 if you are using it in a long gun. Also, you cannot be a prohibited person.

QQ: How do you determine if someone is not a prohibited person w/o running a bg check? (not being snarky, just wondering)

 

[Saltwater60]

In PA, we do not ask for ID when buying ammo except if you look under age. You have to be 18 and older to buy long gun ammo and 21 and older to buy hand gun ammo. You can buy hand gun ammo if you are in the ages of 18-20 if you are using it in a long gun. Also, you cannot be a prohibited person.

I will visit you at some point.

 

[STS556]

here is a sign for all the FFL's store windows ..

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Didn't Barrett do this a few years ago? Any state that banned any of his .50 rifles he also refused to sell to law enforcement in that state?

 

[MikeyCNY]

This was posted at ar15.com -

 

[thisIslandEarth]

This was posted at ar15.com -

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Thanks for the info.

What a royal cluster-fuck. On the other hand, it's accomplishing EXACTLY what they want to do.

 

[CaliberPlus]

MikeinCNY, that is slightlly different than what I was told, not disputing any of it, it is NY. According to what I was told, there is a move to a new facility, new software and new employees. That is a recipe for failure. Supposedly the date is going to be delayed. I will wait to see what the letter says that is going out to FFL's. No matter how you slice this, it is not going to be good.

If my access to the federal NICs is disabled, I would like to know HOW I can do a gunshow out of state. There is so much of this that is a cluster.

 

[Willyone]

This is a confusing clown show by design. Gun/ammo sellers, buyers, FFL's and all others involved, including the NYSP are being tossed into a dark hole on purpose to discourage and eventually prevent honest citizens acquisition of guns/ammo, plain & simple. No secret what the end game is here. Typical old school tactic... disarm the citizens then move on with your "plan".

 

[Deplorable Me]

here is a sign for all the FFL's store windows ..

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There will always be a whole who will.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I am not offering to do certain things (for those government asshoes monitoring this website and this thread…). But it strikes me that with the way NYS is headed, they are well on the way to developing a huge black market in things for people who live outside New Yorkistan to begin bringing in a lot of different items… Like:

Ammunition
Plastic bags
Plastic straws
Non “green” appliances
Untaxed cigarettes
Other items sold tax free in other states
Deposit free drink containers
Other stuff I don’t recall, or about to be outlawed, restricted, or otherwise taxed to death

Green Acres “Mr. Haney” will be delivering to you very soon!

 

[Bigfoot]

I am not offering to do certain things (for those assholes monitoring this thread…). But it strikes me that with the way NYS is headed, they are well on the way to developing a huge black market in things for people who live outside New Yorkistan to begin bringing in a lot of different items… Like:

Ammunition
Plastic bags
Plastic straws
Non “green” appliances
Untaxed cigarettes
Other items sold tax free in other states
Deposit free drink containers
Other stuff I don’t recall, or about to be outlawed, restricted, or otherwise taxed to death

Green Acres “Mr. Haney” will be delivering to you very soon!

 

[Willyone]

I am not offering to do certain things (for those assholes monitoring this thread…). But it strikes me that with the way NYS is headed, they are well on the way to developing a huge black market in things for people who live outside New Yorkistan to begin bringing in a lot of different items… Like:

Ammunition
Plastic bags
Plastic straws
Non “green” appliances
Untaxed cigarettes
Other items sold tax free in other states
Deposit free drink containers
Other stuff I don’t recall, or about to be outlawed, restricted, or otherwise taxed to death

Green Acres “Mr. Haney” will be delivering to you very soon!

That, along with new car sales to be EV's only here in NY at some point in time. When you need to plug in your over priced EV, electricity needs to be generated to charge the battery (if the battery doesn't catch fire destroying the car and the garage and house). Wind and solar isn't going to cut it so coal, NG, or nuke would needed to generate the electricity. Albany can't be that fucking stupid, so chatty kathy and some of the others must have healthy $investments$ in the batteries and or cars. It's gotta be a follow the money thing?

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Saltwater60]

So now it will cost me more to buy a gun? $9.00 isn’t a lot but it’s something. What about the poor minorities that they claim to help and love so dearly? All this crap and these hoops will make it out of reach for many. My wife just said I’m finally ready to get my pistol permit and I said good luck. Another lady I know asked me about it and I laid out the hoops and cost of classes, fingerprints and the gun/accessories and she replied well I’d be in for $1,500 and I said yep. She said no thanks so the plan is working. Where’s the Supreme Court in all this? The second has done nothing and the supreme court has their thumbs up their asses as well. Time to act.

 

[Acer-m14]

start spreading the news ... ( in my best Frank Sinatra Voice ) ..

there will be a NYS voting background check starting Sept 13th ..

$950.00 fee for national elections and $250.00 fee for Local Elections ..

you can be a part of it .. In New York ..

 

[Tisto]

So now it will cost me more to buy a gun? $9.00 isn’t a lot but it’s something. What about the poor minorities that they claim to help and love so dearly? All this crap and these hoops will make it out of reach for many. My wife just said I’m finally ready to get my pistol permit and I said good luck. Another lady I know asked me about it and I laid out the hoops and cost of classes, fingerprints and the gun/accessories and she replied well I’d be in for $1,500 and I said yep. She said no thanks so the plan is working. Where’s the Supreme Court in all this? The second has done nothing and the supreme court has their thumbs up their asses as well. Time to act.

Since I know you're local, check with Joe's Panini Grill for the 16 hour course. I think he charges about half what others charge.

 

[FP1201]

So why is a check for a Gun purchase $6.50 more for ostensibly the same information? The Dealer or Customer via a Pad has to enter the information and transmit it electronically... Since there won't be any way to talk to someone other than for technical help, what happens to those who cannot achieve an internet connection?
LOTS of questions for an ill-conceived process.

 

[Acer-m14]

The NICS System Taken Down, No ETA, No Transfers, Rights Infringed​

4 days ago .. was it a NYS hack LOL ..

 

[Grimscale]

So why is a check for a Gun purchase $6.50 more for ostensibly the same information?

Because most people only purchase one gun at a time, so it would require only one check.
But people frequently purchase multiple boxes of ammunition at a time, and each one requires a check. NY is trying to fool people by making it cheaper, but in the end you'll end up paying a lot more for their co-called background check when you purchase ammo.
Then they'll start raising the prices for the ammo checks.

This is on top of the fake delays, the deliberate rejections, and other forms of oppression they will use to deny NY'ers their 2A rights. They'll have carte-blanche once they are the sole point of contact for background checks. Guaranteed.

 

[That_FNG]

Off the record I heard that NYSP will be arbitrarily denying any firearm purchase they view a non compliant such as AR platform firearms. So even if the feds say proceed they will still deny much like how nyc denies any firearms they don’t want you to have, even if it would be nys or nyc compliant

 

[Saltwater60]

Off the record I heard that NYSP will be arbitrarily denying any firearm purchase they view a non compliant such as AR platform firearms. So even if the feds say proceed they will still deny much like how nyc denies any firearms they don’t want you to have, even if it would be nys or nyc compliant

Makes sense. I’m sure a tally of what you buy will also be kept.

 

[Saltwater60]

Since I know you're local, check with Joe's Panini Grill for the 16 hour course. I think he charges about half what others charge.

Thanks. I’ll see how serious she is and if she’s willing to put in that much time. Maybe she will when my oldest son goes through it.

 

[Willyone]

Makes sense. I’m sure a tally of what you buy will also be kept.

Tally is already being kept and has been for years.
I feel guilty for wasting their time, since my canoe capsized.

 

[Vinson57]

Who do you think are the young professionals running the system are?

Do we care about security to the system? No - its for people we do not like.

Is the NSA and ATF tapped in? In real time direct.

Your ammo purchase tells what guns you have, so go ahead and buy thirty calibers.

Got a prohibited person at your address? No ammo for you.

Want pistol ammo but do not have a permit? No ammo for you. We do not care about pistol caliber guns - sell it.

Get your deer ammo now. We all know the demonrat fudds get theirs the day before opening day as gun has not been used from last year. Th
here going to be a long line for those who wait.

I know this all has been said.

 

[That_FNG]

Who do you think are the young professionals running the system are?

Do we care about security to the system? No - its for people we do not like.

Is the NSA and ATF tapped in? In real time direct.

Your ammo purchase tells what guns you have, so go ahead and buy thirty calibers.

Got a prohibited person at your address? No ammo for you.

Want pistol ammo but do not have a permit? No ammo for you. We do not care about pistol caliber guns - sell it.

Get your deer ammo now. We all know the demonrat fudds get theirs the day before opening day as gun has not been used from last year. Th
here going to be a long line for those who wait.

I know this all has been said.

Weird how all my rifles are in the same calibers as my pistols. So I always only buy pistol ammo, yet it may or may not end up being used in a rifle. Oh is that 350 legend for a pistol or a rifle? Hmm we may just never know.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

QQ: How do you determine if someone is not a prohibited person w/o running a bg check? (not being snarky, just wondering)

I don't unless they tell me which some people have.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

More info: https://troopers.ny.gov/new-york-state-gun-dealer-training