Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?

[2WheelGnnr]

Let me ask this. Anyone Fly with ammo purchased outside the state back to New Yorkistan???

I will have to check but I thought you could fly with ammo in your luggage but has to be in the original packaging and what not. Will double check that... but has anyone traveled recenting with ammo purchased from another state back to here??

Need to Look into going to GA in a bit an maybe do that for what little I need. hunting S/G slugs for now...or maybe just mail back to myself from There to Here???

Anyone have any suggestions or what not on the "right" way to do this?!

or maybe now no "right" way......

 

[Beerman]

Let me ask this. Anyone Fly with ammo purchased outside the state back to New Yorkistan???

I will have to check but I thought you could fly with ammo in your luggage but has to be in the original packaging and what not. Will double check that... but has anyone traveled recenting with ammo purchased from another state back to here??

Need to Look into going to GA in a bit an maybe do that for what little I need. hunting S/G slugs for now...or maybe just mail back to myself from There to Here???

Anyone have any suggestions or what not on the "right" way to do this?!

or maybe now no "right" way......

Sure, it’s pretty easy. Up to 11 pounds of ammo, in original packaging, in checked luggage. You should tell the ticket agent when you drop off your luggage to avoid issues, but it’s not necessarily required. Doesn’t have to be locked in a box.

 

[FP1201]

They used to have amazing prices on 12g Win target load cases.

I used to buy the 100 round pack of shotshell to use at Trap practice for ~$21. and the last time, they had a Mossberg 500 in ,410 priced at less than one of the Turkish guns was going to cost, but that was three or four years ago and since the covid shit, I haven't bothered going in there and haven't missed it in the slightest.

 

[Grimscale]

I used to buy the 100 round pack of shotshell to use at Trap practice for ~$21

I think they are up to $24 or $25 now, when they have it in stock.
Loved running the Winchester White Box stuff in 7.5 for trap shooting. Cycled good and didn't leave as much residue as the Federal stuff did.

But unless I check out a Walmart in PA, I probably won't be shooting trap for a while.

 

[Robin]

I think they are up to $24 or $25 now, when they have it in stock.
Loved running the Winchester White Box stuff in 7.5 for trap shooting. Cycled good and didn't leave as much residue as the Federal stuff did.

But unless I check out a Walmart in PA, I probably won't be shooting trap for a while.

DONE - Shotshell reloader

MEC 650 progressive shotgun shell reloader set up for 12Ga. Countless wads and hulls, about 300 primers. $100.00, OBO. Robin

nygunforum.com

just say'n
Robin

 

[Grimscale]

DONE - Shotshell reloader

MEC 650 progressive shotgun shell reloader set up for 12Ga. Countless wads and hulls, about 300 primers. $100.00, OBO. Robin

nygunforum.com

just say'n
Robin

Yeah, I know. But there are circumstances that prevent me from getting into reloading at this time.

(have they instituted a BGC for powder yet?)

 

[FP1201]

Let me ask this. Anyone Fly with ammo purchased outside the state back to New Yorkistan???

I will have to check but I thought you could fly with ammo in your luggage but has to be in the original packaging and what not. Will double check that... but has anyone traveled recenting with ammo purchased from another state back to here??

Need to Look into going to GA in a bit an maybe do that for what little I need. hunting S/G slugs for now...or maybe just mail back to myself from There to Here???

Anyone have any suggestions or what not on the "right" way to do this?!

or maybe now no "right" way......

Consult IATA manual for exact limitations, but generally speaking you can transport ammunition in its Factory packaging (provided it's fully intact) or in hard plastic Boxes designed for cartridges without any problems. I would fly South with a hundred rounds of 10mm in MTM boxes with locking tabs: TSA never gave it a second look. Magazines must be empty as well...biggest thing is making sure nothing is loose, rolling around, or unsecure. Put your pistol in a hard case with a appropriate lock, tell the Clerk at the Airline Counter you have a Firearm to declare, they'll give you a Tag to fill out, and TSA will examine to make sure it's good-to-go, and in the case of New York they MAY call over PD to verify your Handgun Licenses and the Pistol's registration to your Licenses. When you arrive, a Baggage Handler will have the Bag which the gun was transported and require identification before he surrenders it to you., so do make sure it's tagged right. (Wife's bag had my pistol in it and they wouldn't give it to me, she had to show her ID even though I signed the declaration)
Returning: No one is going to check anything other than the Airline handing off your bag back to you, which is OK considering the Baggage Pirates that'll take off with peoples luggage...Bring back all you can!
Other thing you can do while out of State: Anyone can set up a FedEx or UPS Account, it's easy enough to get Factory overpack boxes, print a label from you to you and hand it off to a Driver...If I'm transporting a vehicle back to NY, you can damn well bet it isn't coming back empty.

 

[pramaglia]

I used to buy the 100 round pack of shotshell to use at Trap practice for ~$21. and the last time, they had a Mossberg 500 in ,410 priced at less than one of the Turkish guns was going to cost, but that was three or four years ago and since the covid shit, I haven't bothered going in there and haven't missed it in the slightest.

This is a receipt from the last time I bought ammo at Walmart. Not sure of the exact date, but it had to be about 2 years ago.

 

[Saltwater60]

Let me ask this. Anyone Fly with ammo purchased outside the state back to New Yorkistan???

I will have to check but I thought you could fly with ammo in your luggage but has to be in the original packaging and what not. Will double check that... but has anyone traveled recenting with ammo purchased from another state back to here??

Need to Look into going to GA in a bit an maybe do that for what little I need. hunting S/G slugs for now...or maybe just mail back to myself from There to Here???

Anyone have any suggestions or what not on the "right" way to do this?!

or maybe now no "right" way......

Yes and I told the lady checking my bags I bought it in Texas. No tsa check last couple times so why would they care. I kept it in original packing like you said per regs and I think you’re allowed 11 lbs of small arms cartridges but might be different by airline. It’s all spelled out on the airline and tsa web site. Delta was word for word with tsa but others might be different

 

[Saltwater60]

Consult IATA manual for exact limitations, but generally speaking you can transport ammunition in its Factory packaging (provided it's fully intact) or in hard plastic Boxes designed for cartridges without any problems. I would fly South with a hundred rounds of 10mm in MTM boxes with locking tabs: TSA never gave it a second look. Magazines must be empty as well...biggest thing is making sure nothing is loose, rolling around, or unsecure. Put your pistol in a hard case with a appropriate lock, tell the Clerk at the Airline Counter you have a Firearm to declare, they'll give you a Tag to fill out, and TSA will examine to make sure it's good-to-go, and in the case of New York they MAY call over PD to verify your Handgun Licenses and the Pistol's registration to your Licenses. When you arrive, a Baggage Handler will have the Bag which the gun was transported and require identification before he surrenders it to you., so do make sure it's tagged right. (Wife's bag had my pistol in it and they wouldn't give it to me, she had to show her ID even though I signed the declaration)
Returning: No one is going to check anything other than the Airline handing off your bag back to you, which is OK considering the Baggage Pirates that'll take off with peoples luggage...Bring back all you can!
Other thing you can do while out of State: Anyone can set up a FedEx or UPS Account, it's easy enough to get Factory overpack boxes, print a label from you to you and hand it off to a Driver...If I'm transporting a vehicle back to NY, you can damn well bet it isn't coming back empty.

I’m not sure tsa is checking anymore. Last two times I flew they didn’t. Someone else on here reported the same and I think it was Vietnamesravet so I trust it.

 

[Beerman]

I’m not sure tsa is checking anymore. Last two times I flew they didn’t. Someone else on here reported the same and I think it was Vietnamesravet so I trust it.

For ammo only, no big deal. Travelling with a firearm will get a TSA check, process, etc.

 

[dwa12479]

Let me ask this. Anyone Fly with ammo purchased outside the state back to New Yorkistan???

I will have to check but I thought you could fly with ammo in your luggage but has to be in the original packaging and what not. Will double check that... but has anyone traveled recenting with ammo purchased from another state back to here??

Need to Look into going to GA in a bit an maybe do that for what little I need. hunting S/G slugs for now...or maybe just mail back to myself from There to Here???

Anyone have any suggestions or what not on the "right" way to do this?!

or maybe now no "right" way......

I would mail it home to myself. Can't use USPS either. Has to be ORM-D.

Its been a 5 or 6 years since I've flown with ammo, but I always used to carry mine in the MTM plastic cases and never had any trouble.

 

[Saltwater60]

For ammo only, no big deal. Travelling with a firearm will get a TSA check, process, etc.

Nope. Both in Buffalo an Austin airport baggage check lady handed me a pink tag to sign saying it was unloaded and I put it in my bag with the gun in the locked case. Never spoke to tsa until it was security check point.

 

[Beerman]

I would mail it home to myself. Can't use USPS either. Has to be ORM-D.

Its been a 5 or 6 years since I've flown with ammo, but I always used to carry mine in the MTM plastic cases and never had any trouble.

ORM-D hasn’t existed in over 3 years. No longer in use. Small arms ammunition gets shipped with a HazMat label.

 

[Beerman]

Nope. Both in Buffalo an Austin airport baggage check lady handed me a pink tag to sign saying it was unloaded and I put it in my bag with the gun in the locked case. Never spoke to tsa until it was security check point.

That’s good news!

 

[FP1201]

I’m not sure tsa is checking anymore. Last two times I flew they didn’t. Someone else on here reported the same and I think it was Vietnamesravet so I trust it.

Last time I flew it was out of a very small regional airport: early morning, first thing I do is tell the Ticket Agent "I need a Firearms Declaration" She takes our Bags and I figured they'd changed things around, so I handed them over....ten minutes later a TSA Agent is asking "Do you know you have a Firearm in your Luggage?" Yes, First thing I did was state that I had one and needed a Firearms Declaration...checked with the Agent, and she admitted to forgetting about it. TSA agent to me: "Well we'll let it go this time, but you have to declare you have a gun." ...OK
Yea, no shit, it wasn't MY fuck up. Being such a small Airport in my area. I knew at least one of the TSA guys and recognized another having been in the Gun Shop.

Come to think of it, the last few times I flew out of Syracuse they didn't call for SPD to check my Licenses...I think the powers that be got tired of fucking over Soldiers going back home and taking their handguns with them, having come to Ft. Drum not knowing about NY's draconian and discriminatory handgun laws.

 

[dwa12479]

ORM-D hasn’t existed in over 3 years. No longer in use. Small arms ammunition gets shipped with a HazMat label.

Shows you how often I ship ammo. LOL. Haven't had any delivered in years either. Reloading press go Brrrrrrrr.......

 

[Acer-m14]

(have they instituted a BGC for powder yet?)

make your own .. it just takes some time ..

 

[Acer-m14]

ORM-D hasn’t existed in over 3 years. No longer in use. Small arms ammunition gets shipped with a HazMat label.

beg to differ ..


the diamond is still on UPS site on how to ship .. and what you can ship ..

How To Ship Ammunition | UPS - United States

Key considerations from UPS to keep in mind when packaging and shipping ammunition for firearms.

www.ups.com

 

[Deplorable Me]

They used to have amazing prices on 12g Win target load cases.

I've shopped Wally World ammo in PA, VA, OH, WV and NC for the Win trap 12 gauge, zero bullshit. The administrative crap is a NY thing. In days of old at end of hunting season there were bargains galore on 3" hunting loads, but none in NY......

 

[S&W Fan]

beg to differ ..


the diamond is still on UPS site on how to ship .. and what you can ship ..

How To Ship Ammunition | UPS - United States

Key considerations from UPS to keep in mind when packaging and shipping ammunition for firearms.

www.ups.com

That diamond is the hazmat identification. Prior to that all that was needed on the pkg. of ammo being shipped was the ORM-D declaration. One could just hand write it on the pkg.

 

[Bustedknees]

That diamond is the hazmat identification. Prior to that all that was needed on the pkg. of ammo being shipped was the ORM-D declaration. One could just hand write it on the pkg.

Because I can't count the number of times my ammo has arrived blown-up or on fire on my doorstep.

 

[FP1201]

Ther point being missed is the "ORM-D" (other regulated material- domestic) has been replaced with the Blue Diamond symbol. (LQ for Limited quantities)
HAZMAT literally changes every year and certification as a Shipper (preparing documents) requires retaking the entire course every two years.
I had to sit through the "AMMO-62" Course to certify munitions shipments including World Wide Deployment via Aircraft.
One could re-use the overpack Box that a "case" of ammunition comes in to UPS/FedEx back home quantities of ammo...Chances are the Shop selling ammo will have a box or two they'll give you; peel off the label and tape your own on it and send it!

 

[Saltwater60]

Last time I flew it was out of a very small regional airport: early morning, first thing I do is tell the Ticket Agent "I need a Firearms Declaration" She takes our Bags and I figured they'd changed things around, so I handed them over....ten minutes later a TSA Agent is asking "Do you know you have a Firearm in your Luggage?" Yes, First thing I did was state that I had one and needed a Firearms Declaration...checked with the Agent, and she admitted to forgetting about it. TSA agent to me: "Well we'll let it go this time, but you have to declare you have a gun." ...OK
Yea, no shit, it wasn't MY fuck up. Being such a small Airport in my area. I knew at least one of the TSA guys and recognized another having been in the Gun Shop.

Come to think of it, the last few times I flew out of Syracuse they didn't call for SPD to check my Licenses...I think the powers that be got tired of fucking over Soldiers going back home and taking their handguns with them, having come to Ft. Drum not knowing about NY's draconian and discriminatory handgun laws.

I was surprised when I didn’t see a TSA agent. The lady in Buffalo wanted me to take the gun out and show her my gun. I told her there was a safety flag in it and as soon as I put the key in the box she said that’s ok. She seemed scared to death. I arrived at my destination and I had to show my DL license to get my bag. I signed the form saying it was uploaded.
On the return same just sign this and she asked about the ammo. I told her it was all in original boxes and a few boxes. She handed me the form to sign and zipped it back up. When I arrived in Buffalo nothing at all. I went over to get the bag and the office was closed. As soon as I saw that I said they are going to dump it on the carousel. Bag had a tag on it saying do t put it on the carousel and as soon as I got back to the carousel my bag was coming down it. I checked the case prior to leaving to make sure the gun was in there and it was. I wasn’t happy they did this because the bag was identified as having a gun in it if anyone was paying attention or knew what the tag was about.

 

[FP1201]

I was surprised when I didn’t see a TSA agent. The lady in Buffalo wanted me to take the gun out and show her my gun. I told her there was a safety flag in it and as soon as I put the key in the box she said that’s ok. She seemed scared to death. I arrived at my destination and I had to show my DL license to get my bag. I signed the form saying it was uploaded.
On the return same just sign this and she asked about the ammo. I told her it was all in original boxes and a few boxes. She handed me the form to sign and zipped it back up. When I arrived in Buffalo nothing at all. I went over to get the bag and the office was closed. As soon as I saw that I said they are going to dump it on the carousel. Bag had a tag on it saying do t put it on the carousel and as soon as I got back to the carousel my bag was coming down it. I checked the case prior to leaving to make sure the gun was in there and it was. I wasn’t happy they did this because the bag was identified as having a gun in it if anyone was paying attention or knew what the tag was about.

Sounds the same as previous experiences.
TSA X-rays bags before being loaded into Aircraft, same as carry on Bags, we typically don't see them scanning luggage.

 

[Beerman]

beg to differ ..


the diamond is still on UPS site on how to ship .. and what you can ship ..

How To Ship Ammunition | UPS - United States

Key considerations from UPS to keep in mind when packaging and shipping ammunition for firearms.

www.ups.com

Some easy reading for you. Have a nice day!

 

[2WheelGnnr]

FYI dont plan to take a firearm with me...Just buying ammo in GA and flying back home with it.....

I should get some more shotgun slugs..thats all i really need or should get at this point.

I appreciate all the info... went to tsa site and say just what you all are saying. They did say in a locked case but I see some of you had not had to do that...But I will since thats what the letter of the law says....

Thanks!!!

 

[Saltwater60]

FYI dont plan to take a firearm with me...Just buying ammo in GA and flying back home with it.....

I should get some more shotgun slugs..thats all i really need or should get at this point.

I appreciate all the info... went to tsa site and say just what you all are saying. They did say in a locked case but I see some of you had not had to do that...But I will since thats what the letter of the law says....

Thanks!!!

I had no issue and it was all in original packaging outside of my lock box. Only my gun and mags(empty) were in the lockbox.

 

[Robin]

Tomorrow will be 30 days "under review" unless they only count business days.
Robin

 

[S&W Fan]

Tomorrow will be 30 days "under review" unless they only count business days.
Robin

WTF !
FUKH