Ammo from Texas to New York - NOPE!

[ecarfar]

I can't tell you how PISSED I am! I just got back from San Antonio; I was there for a week. I dragged my wife to a few gun stores to see what they had in stock in the way of ammo. We went to a couple, both very glitzy shops, all they had was the usual, 9mm, 22LR, 45ACP....etc....stuff you can get anywhere. I need some of the rarer or impossible to get ammo. I found this dumpy little shop and we went in...I asked, "do you have and 25-20 Winchester" Yup, 2 full cases (at $60 a box for 50 rounds), do you have any 38-40...yup....do you have any 38-55 yup....do you have and 30-40 Krag...yup... It was like I found the jackpot. I told him I wanted 3 of each but I wanted it shipped to my home. He asked me where I lived...I said Long Island NY, he looked at a list and said, "we don't ship anything to NY, nothing." I couldn't take it on the plane, our bags were already at the maximum and they limit you to 11 pounds of ammo AND you have to declare it. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[thughes]

Why didn't you just buy it, take it to UPS, and ship it to yourself?

 

[ecarfar]

Why didn't you just buy it, take it to UPS, and ship it to yourself?

I spoke to them about that, and they didn't recommend it. They weren't sure about the ban on shipping it to a residence and not an FFL as required by law...they wouldn't even ship it to an FFL.

 

[thughes]

None of UPS damn business,right?

Besides, I'm pretty sure UPS is not actively looking at every single parcel shipped into NY to determine: if it's ammo, if it's coming from an FFL, if it's going to an FFL, etc. It's just a package.

Here's their rules: https://www.ups.com/us/en/support/s...s-materials-guide/how-to-ship-ammunition.page

 

[ecarfar]

None of UPS damn business,right?

Besides, I'm pretty sure UPS is not actively looking at every single parcel shipped into NY to determine: if it's ammo, if it's coming from an FFL, if it's going to an FFL, etc. It's just a package.

Here's their rules: https://www.ups.com/us/en/support/s...s-materials-guide/how-to-ship-ammunition.page

I'm not willing to take that chance. I'm not worried about UPS, I'm worried about the state.. NY politicians are just looking for any way to trip us up and take away our guns and/or put us in jail. I asked the shop, and they said while they won't ship to NY, they will ship to NH where my so lives so I might have to go that route.

 

[ecarfar]

Sounds like you have an unusual collection. Damn shame not to have ammo for them.

I was going to ask if you knew anyone in PA, but it sounds like NH is the way to go. Good luck.

Thanks, yes, I do. A lot of old milsurp rifles and Winchesters. I only have about 50 rounds of 25 Stevens left. They're similar to 22LR where the primer is embedded in the casing so no reloading. Can't find those anywhere.

 

[dsdmmat]

Shipped over a 1000 pounds of ammo through UPS. Shipping it to yourself is really easy.

 

[thughes]

I'm not willing to take that chance. I'm not worried about UPS, I'm worried about the state.. NY politicians are just looking for any way to trip us up and take away our guns and/or put us in jail. I asked the shop, and they said while they won't ship to NY, they will ship to NH where my so lives so I might have to go that route.

Moot point now anyway but.....

You're sound like you were OK with bringing ammo into NY by air in your checked luggage, you're OK with having it shipped to a neighboring state and then driving it in to NY via passenger vehicle, yet you're concerned the state will prosecute you for sending a package from yourself to yourself via a shipping carrier?

I'm not bashing on you personally, just pointing out that this state has its residents paranoid of doing something that is perfectly legal: transferring ammo that you already own across the state line. Don't let them win!

 

[ecarfar]

Moot point now anyway but.....

You're sound like you were OK with bringing ammo into NY by air in your checked luggage, you're OK with having it shipped to a neighboring state and then driving it in to NY via passenger vehicle, yet you're concerned the state will prosecute you for sending a package from yourself to yourself via a shipping carrier?

I'm not bashing on you personally, just pointing out that this state has its residents paranoid of doing something that is perfectly legal: transferring ammo that you already own across the state line. Don't let them win!

Your last paragraph is spot on, yes, I am paranoid, especially with something like that, that's out of my control. There are no laws restricting you from buying ammo out of state and carrying it in with you (not yet), it's like any other product. The mail is a little touchy and it's not crystal clear to me. Non-semi auto rifles too...I would have no problem buying one in another state and bringing it back here. I'll probably end up calling them and having them ship it to my son in NH...or, better yet...just move there.

 

[spat]

I'm not willing to take that chance. I'm not worried about UPS, I'm worried about the state.. NY politicians are just looking for any way to trip us up and take away our guns and/or put us in jail. I asked the shop, and they said while they won't ship to NY, they will ship to NH where my so lives so I might have to go that route.

You can even legally ship a rifle to yourself interstate.

Ammo would not be an issue.

They can't *sell* ammo and ship it to NY, but you can certainly ship your own ammo.

Same thing as buying it in PA and driving across the border at that point.

The only thing you might run afoul of is the ORMD thing. UPS might not let you ship ammo at all as an individual because of that, not even across town in Texas.

But worst thing they can do is say no.

 

[spat]

Your last paragraph is spot on, yes, I am paranoid, especially with something like that, that's out of my control. There are no laws restricting you from buying ammo out of state and carrying it in with you (not yet), it's like any other product. The mail is a little touchy and it's not crystal clear to me. Non-semi auto rifles too...I would have no problem buying one in another state and bringing it back here. I'll probably end up calling them and having them ship it to my son in NH...or, better yet...just move there.

It's not iffy at all. There is no prohibition whatsoever on bringing in ammo from other states, by whatever means you want.

The only thing prohibited is *selling* it without a background check. So, unless you're selling it it doesn't matter.

 

[Acer-m14]

I couldn't take it on the plane, our bags were already at the maximum and they limit you to 11 pounds of ammo AND you have to declare it. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so they limit you to how many luggage bags too ??


Fly Cessna .. no TSA and baggage check or xrays ..

 

[ecarfar]

so they limit you to how many luggage bags too ??


Fly Cessna .. no TSA and baggage check or xrays ..

LOL...funny you should mention that...I've been a pilot since 1985....although I would love a cross country from Texas to NY in a 152, I don't have that kind of time!

 

[Deplorable Me]

so they limit you to how many luggage bags too ??


Fly Cessna .. no TSA and baggage check or xrays ..

You're going to need a bigger plane.

 

[Acer-m14]

LOL...funny you should mention that...I've been a pilot since 1985....although I would love a cross country from Texas to NY in a 152, I don't have that kind of time!

well Cessna does have other private planes LOL ..

 

[Acer-m14]

Chartered Ammo Flights sounds like a good idea ..

I need a Air o Plane .. lol

 

[Acer-m14]

may need a STOL too ..

delivering ammo into tight places ..

here is your box of 22LR

 

[ecarfar]

may need a STOL too ..

delivering ammo into tight places ..

here is your box of 22LR

Ya gotta love those STOL aircraft....

 

[Acer-m14]

the hell with doordash ..

AmmoDash

LOL ..