Ammunition found locally today

[FRB]

You got there too late I guess.

I am not one really to stand in lines or one that rushes to things..... if I get it I get it. I have a decent amount now.

 

[Saltwater60]

Crazy that they’d need new approval. Should have just been a simple address change. It’s the same company and not a little fly by night one either. Just another example of why you shouldn’t do business in this state.

I’m guessing they let it lapse in the move o don’t know? I was looking at a few pistols and waiting for the next discount and then bam they were all gone within a few days. There was no way all those guns sold as they told me they did. I’ll bet their license expired or something. Pure speculation on my part but it makes sense.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I’m guessing they let it lapse in the move o don’t know? I was looking at a few pistols and waiting for the next discount and then bam they were all gone within a few days. There was no way all those guns sold as they told me they did. I’ll bet their license expired or something. Pure speculation on my part but it makes sense.

I have a vague idea I know what happened to them.

I almost "pulled the trigger" on an impulse buy. I was browsing during their liquidation and they had a smoking deal on a new Glock19 gen 5 with all their discounts and closeouts it was like $389. I went back the next day and they were gone. I asked the salesman what happened or where they all went and he said they got in trouble because a lot of their guns were being sold being sold below manufacturers minimum prices so corporate took the guns and re-distrubuted them to other gander locations through the country to sell at normal prices.

 

[Chevusa]

I’m guessing they let it lapse in the move o don’t know? I was looking at a few pistols and waiting for the next discount and then bam they were all gone within a few days. There was no way all those guns sold as they told me they did. I’ll bet their license expired or something. Pure speculation on my part but it makes sense.

Probably just sent them back to HQ to be sold online or moved to other stores.

 

[Chevusa]

I have a vague idea I know what happened to them.

I almost "pulled the trigger" on an impulse buy. I was browsing during their liquidation and they had a smoking deal on a new Glock19 gen 5 with all their discounts and closeouts it was like $389. I went back the next day and they were gone. I asked the salesman what happened or where they all went and he said they got in trouble because a lot of their guns were being sold being sold below manufacturers minimum prices so corporate took the guns and re-distrubuted them to other gander locations through the country to sell at normal prices.

Very possible. These dealer agreements exist for sure. Look at Glock. The price is pretty much the price even during Covid. They won’t allow the dealers to mark them up.

 

[Saltwater60]

I have a vague idea I know what happened to them.

I almost "pulled the trigger" on an impulse buy. I was browsing during their liquidation and they had a smoking deal on a new Glock19 gen 5 with all their discounts and closeouts it was like $389. I went back the next day and they were gone. I asked the salesman what happened or where they all went and he said they got in trouble because a lot of their guns were being sold being sold below manufacturers minimum prices so corporate took the guns and re-distrubuted them to other gander locations through the country to sell at normal prices.

I’m sure you are right. I heard they got in trouble with Glock for selling below what Glock allows. I heard glock physically came in the store and made a stink about it and pulled their guns.
I was looking at a 4” Springfield emp that’s an $1,100 gun and I’d have gotten it for $500.
I did buy a Benelli montefeltro shotgun for $690 out the door. That’s an $1100 gun so I made out. I bought tons of ammo from them at reduced prices. $1.97 for 50 round .22’s, $4.00 for winchester 10 round turkey loads. I must have bought 10-15 boxes of that. I’ll never need turkey loads again in my life.

 

[Chevusa]

I’m sure you are right. I heard they got in trouble with Glock for selling below what Glock allows. I heard glock physically came in the store and made a stink about it and pulled their guns.
I was looking at a 4” Springfield emp that’s an $1,100 gun and I’d have gotten it for $500.
I did buy a Benelli montefeltro shotgun for $690 out the door. That’s an $1100 gun so I made out. I bought tons of ammo from them at reduced prices. $1.97 for 50 round .22’s, $4.00 for winchester 10 round turkey loads. I must have bought 10-15 boxes of that. I’ll never need turkey loads again in my life.

I'd be pretty surprised if they came to the store. Once the dealer buys the guns they own them. Glock could of course not sell any more to them but they can't come and take them back lol.

 

[Saltwater60]

I'd be pretty surprised if they came to the store. Once the dealer buys the guns they own them. Glock could of course not sell any more to them but they can't come and take them back lol.

That’s what the one store clerk told my brother. He went into buy some guns and that’s what they said. Who knows though.

 

[Vapor]

9mm remmington fmj. $18/50 @ dicks.

 

[Saltwater60]

9mm remmington fmj. $18/50 @ dicks.

That’s what I was at the gander outdoors by me. They had one box. I passed it by because I’ve got 5,000-6,000 rounds. 50 rounds wasn’t doing me anything.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

9mm remmington fmj. $18/50 @ dicks.

I thought dick's stopped selling evil ammo

 

[Vapor]

I thought dick's stopped selling evil ammo

That was wal mart.


Court Street dicks in Binghamton workers are a bunch of gun nuts. Even the store manager. They don't even ask for a pistol permit.

 

[1075tech]

That was wal mart.


Court Street dicks in Binghamton workers are a bunch of gun nuts. Even the store manager. They don't even ask for a pistol permit.

Remember when they actually sold guns there?

Bought my first rifles there. Still have 2 of them. Bought my first pistol there, a used S&W mod 60 snubby when I was 19. My first new pistol, 6" 686 was from there. Still have it.

 

[Parzival]

That was wal mart.


Court Street dicks in Binghamton workers are a bunch of gun nuts. Even the store manager. They don't even ask for a pistol permit.

Why would they ask for a permit to buy ammo? What if you have a 9mm carbine? Or a .357 Henry.

 

[Saltwater60]

Why would they ask for a permit to buy ammo? What if you have a 9mm carbine? Or a .357 Henry.

Then at some stores you’re out of luck. It’s a company policy and I don’t agree with it but Walmart and dicks are infamous for it.
cabelas used to ask for ID for age verification. They stopped that.

 

[spat]

I'd be pretty surprised if they came to the store. Once the dealer buys the guns they own them. Glock could of course not sell any more to them but they can't come and take them back lol.

Glock can threaten not to sell any to the whole corporation anymore if they don’t stop. Then corporate has to pull them from that store to keep their ability to sell them anywhere.

Extortion like that should be criminal antitrust IMHO, but unfortunately it's common and accepted.

 

[spat]

Why would they ask for a permit to buy ammo? What if you have a 9mm carbine? Or a .357 Henry.

There is a vague NYS law that is never enforced, and doesn't mean what they say it does.

I am sure it's easier for the corporate lawyers to just say "always ask for a permit" than to figure out what the law actually means.

And once the lazy lawyer has spoken, nobody in the company will question it.

 

[Vapor]

Dicks will just put long gun in their computer in other stores.

Wal mart used to just require a permit period. Now they don't sell pistol ammo at all.

 

[1075tech]

There is a vague NYS law that is never enforced, and doesn't mean what they say it does.

I am sure it's easier for the corporate lawyers to just say "always ask for a permit" than to figure out what the law actually means.

And once the lazy lawyer has spoken, nobody in the company will question it.

I don't have the ability to quote it right now, but it's not all that vague. Just that purchasing pistol (handgun) specific ammunition requires a pistol permit.

I'm not sure what ammunition is pistol specific. 380? 32 ACP? 32 H&R?

 

[Chevusa]

Glock can threaten not to sell any to the whole corporation anymore if they don’t stop. Then corporate has to pull them from that store to keep their ability to sell them anywhere.

Extortion like that should be criminal antitrust IMHO, but unfortunately it's common and accepted.

I guess. But the point stands - the retailer owns the purchased guns and Glock did not come to take them back. Whatever corporate did with their property is up to them ultimately.

Dealer agreements exist almost universally in all industries and with all products. It prevents a retailer from damaging the valuable brand name. If they jack the prices to $10,000 each, Glock's brand is damaged because everyone says "those MF'ers at Glock taking advantage of the pandemic by jacking their prices" then the brand is hurt.

Of course the retailer signed this agreement by their own fee will. They could have declined and not carried the Glock brand in their stores. The choice was 100% theirs to make. It's that thing called freedom. Funny how some like to pick and choose when and where it should apply. Hmmm....

 

[spat]

I guess. But the point stands - the retailer owns the purchased guns and Glock did not come to take them back. Whatever corporate did with their property is up to them ultimately.

Dealer agreements exist almost universally in all industries and with all products. It prevents a retailer from damaging the valuable brand name. If they jack the prices to $10,000 each, Glock's brand is damaged because everyone says "those MF'ers at Glock taking advantage of the pandemic by jacking their prices" then the brand is hurt.

Of course the retailer signed this agreement by their own fee will. They could have declined and not carried the Glock brand in their stores. The choice was 100% theirs to make. It's that thing called freedom. Funny how some like to pick and choose when and where it should apply. Hmmm....

Antitrust laws are there to keep a market free.

Monopolies are not free markets and are the antithesis of freedom.

Not everything that hurts your interests should be something you control. The retailers aren't responsible for supporting the value of the brand anymore than you are responsible for the value of your neighbors property.

 

[Chevusa]

Antitrust laws are there to keep a market free.

Monopolies are not free markets and are the antithesis of freedom.

Not everything that hurts your interests should be something you control. The retailers aren't responsible for supporting the value of the brand anymore than you are responsible for the value of your neighbors property.

Wheres the monopoly? I thought there were other brands of guns made other than Glock?

If you want to sell my product you need to play by my rules. Otherwise, go sell anything else you desire.

You will not hurt or destroy the brand that I have built with your reckless actions.

No different than The Four Seasons Hotel saying you must adhere to _______ design plan and _______ cleaning schedule and _____ accommodations. Otherwise, you can name it Bob's Hotel for all they care. The choice is yours. You know the terms upfront. You signed them by your own free will. You entered the agreement, in fact you sought them out on your own and asked to be allowed in. Now honor what you agreed to. It's business.


Oh and if Glock, the best selling pistol, was violating any of the rules that you cited, they would be fined and sued. It just shows that you do not grasp fully the terms you have laid out. Case closed.

 

[spat]

Wheres the monopoly? I thought there were other brands of guns made other than Glock?

If you want to sell my product you need to play by my rules. Otherwise, go sell anything else you desire.

You will not hurt or destroy the brand that I have built with your reckless actions.

No different than The Four Seasons Hotel saying you must adhere to _______ design plan and _______ cleaning schedule and _____ accommodations. Otherwise, you can name it Bob's Hotel for all they care. The choice is yours. You know the terms upfront. You signed them by your own free will. You entered the agreement, in fact you sought them out on your own and asked to be allowed in. Now honor what you agreed to. It's business.


Oh and if Glock, the best selling pistol, was violating any of the rules that you cited, they would be fined and sued. It just shows that you do not grasp fully the terms you have laid out. Case closed.

The monopoly is on the glock guns. Nobody can manufacture a Glock but Glock.

If these were Glock franchisees then your hotel analogy would be apt. They are not. They are independent retailers who should be able to sell the product *they own free and clear* for whatever price they want.

They are merely reselling a product. Once Glock no longer owns the pistol, they should have no say in how it is disposed of.

I am not claiming that Glock is violating existing anti-trust law. I am saying they are violating the spirit of anti-trust law and it should be altered to prohibit this widespread coercive behavior.

Do you think it would be OK for glock to set pricing on used guns too ? If you sold your old one too cheap, should they be able to put you on a blacklist and prohibit *anyone* from selling you another glock for any price under penalty of finding themselves on that list ?

The manufacturer has a few remedies for people damaging their brand. If what they are selling isn't the same product that leaves the Glock factory, they can (rightfully) sue.

If they want their product to be only sold above a certain price, they can charge enough wholesale that the retailers have to keep the price up.

But this "well, I'll sell it to you for $300, but you have to charge at least $500" BS smells an awful lot like an illegal price fixing scheme. If the current law doesn't classify it as such, then it should be adjusted so that it does.




The bottom line is that if all the gun shops in your city got together and said "nobody sells a G19 for less than $500" that would be a crime and they would go to jail. If Glock tells them all to do it, that shouldn't be legal either.

 

[Chevusa]

The monopoly is on the glock guns. Nobody can manufacture a Glock but Glock.

If these were Glock franchisees then your hotel analogy would be apt. They are not. They are independent retailers who should be able to sell the product *they own free and clear* for whatever price they want.

They are merely reselling a product. Once Glock no longer owns the pistol, they should have no say in how it is disposed of.

I am not claiming that Glock is violating existing anti-trust law. I am saying they are violating the spirit of anti-trust law and it should be altered to prohibit this widespread coercive behavior.

Do you think it would be OK for glock to set pricing on used guns too ? If you sold your old one too cheap, should they be able to put you on a blacklist and prohibit *anyone* from selling you another glock for any price under penalty of finding themselves on that list ?

The manufacturer has a few remedies for people damaging their brand. If what they are selling isn't the same product that leaves the Glock factory, they can (rightfully) sue.

If they want their product to be only sold above a certain price, they can charge enough wholesale that the retailers have to keep the price up.

But this "well, I'll sell it to you for $300, but you have to charge at least $500" BS smells an awful lot like an illegal price fixing scheme. If the current law doesn't classify it as such, then it should be adjusted so that it does.




The bottom line is that if all the gun shops in your city got together and said "nobody sells a G19 for less than $500" that would be a crime and they would go to jail. If Glock tells them all to do it, that shouldn't be legal either.

Good grief. Not even worth a further response. You have no idea of the world around you and how business works. Not Glock, not guns - ALL business.

 

[spat]

Good grief. Not even worth a further response. You have no idea of the world around you and how business works. Not Glock, not guns - ALL business.

It's apparent that one of us is clueless.

At least I know that price fixing is a crime though.

 

[C3D]

Found another box of 00 Buck at Walmart, $11.97 before tax.

 

[repete]

Warsaw Walmart has (as of 5pm) several 800 round boxes of .22lr for $45 or so. I saw 2 or 3 on the shelf and asked for one and the cashier opened a new case of them that hadn't been put away yet. GOOD LUCK!

 

[FRB]

yeah back the the subject at hand....

 

[Chevusa]

yeah back the the subject at hand....

Amen.

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm gonna drive out to Cabela's today. I need a couple of things, I'll look at the ammo as well.