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I am way way behind. I never really thought it could come to this. but after Bi xing got elected I started to prep a bit .my short term goal is make it till spring. I have about 2 months of food, right now, and enough ammo , plenty of home made wine :) Im working on getting a wood stove this week. Maybe 50 lbs of flour rice beans sugar and some canned goods My neighbor has some chickens in his yard. I might ask him about getting some. To, me, if you have chickens , you have a source of food to trade or eat. Of course, I havnt talked it over with my dog yet. not sure how he feels about it.
 
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Mebby I'll have a snow drift sale in a few months featuring basic commodities. Then buy that vacation villa in Katmandu!
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In another thread I posted a you tube about oil filters could be in short supply . Just ordered 6 for my car and a few for my tractors... Along with fuel filters
 
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you tube video that popped up in my random feed .. i have heard of this years ago ..

how to store butter .. Ghee ...

"Ghee is a delicious form of clarified butter originating from India where it has been used in cooking for hundreds of years. The water and milk solids are removed making it healthier to eat. It is easy to make and if properly packaged, can be stored in a cool dark place for years without refrigeration.

Note: We lost our video for about 90 seconds. Here is what happened during that time--After the butter reached the clarification stage, we turned the heat up to 7 and caramelized the sugars on the bottom of the pan. The video picks up again just as we had removed the pot from the heat. "

 
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So, I've had a bit of a shift in my thinking on preps.


Short term, you need enough to weather the immediate storm.

If you couldn't hole up at home for a few weeks with what you have, then you're in absolute denial at this point IMHO.

But, more than a few months is probably time to start thinking about adjusting to a "new normal".

If your plan is to sock away years of freeze dried food to subsist on, what will you do when it runs out ? If you haven't figured out your niche in the new economy in that time you probably never will.

So either stash enough to last the rest of your life, or get prepared to rejoin whatevers left of society.


Now, when you look at things historically, there are things that are very cheap now, but if the global economy collapsed, they would be very very expensive, or even non existant.

Hell, my wife's spice cupboard would have marked us as one of the richest families in all of europe a few hundred years ago LOL.


So, you'll be able to acquire staples locally. Milk, eggs, that sort of thing will be available for trade.

But there are things that will not in a TEOTWAWKI situation. Things that are dirt cheap now, have a very good shelf life, and will be very much in demand.


Maybe you'll be able to trade a couple pounds of peppercorns for a years worth of milk. I know which of those is easiest to store.

That would be a great deal to strike with a local farmer. Fresh milk every day for you, and he doesn’t have to eat bland crap all year

Trade some more "unobtainable" products to the guy with the chickens for some eggs next.

I don't want to run a whole farm, but I'd be happy to trade with the guys who do.
 
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Good idea on peppercorns.

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Acer-m14 said:
you tube video that popped up in my random feed .. i have heard of this years ago ..

how to store butter .. Ghee ...

"Ghee is a delicious form of clarified butter originating from India where it has been used in cooking for hundreds of years. The water and milk solids are removed making it healthier to eat. It is easy to make and if properly packaged, can be stored in a cool dark place for years without refrigeration.

Note: We lost our video for about 90 seconds. Here is what happened during that time--After the butter reached the clarification stage, we turned the heat up to 7 and caramelized the sugars on the bottom of the pan. The video picks up again just as we had removed the pot from the heat. "

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My friend I just last night sent my girlfriend the same you tube for her to look at. (before you posted this ) She likes to can and will try yo get her to make some . One can buy it in the store. If one does not have refrigeration it is another way to store a comfort food. As I have said before eating MRE's for a few months straight could get old .I will try to make an effort to grind wheat and make sourdough bread and english muffins. ... It will be a win win. for me... This woman has posted many interesting you tubes and it would pay for anyone to review . One that I watched was her cooking eggs on a rocket stove using wood. A very efficient process to cook with . I have that same stove. One could make a meal with just a 6 inch bundle of wood . With the right model one can use charcoal also
 
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spat said:
So, I've had a bit of a shift in my thinking on preps.


Short term, you need enough to weather the immediate storm.

If you couldn't hole up at home for a few weeks with what you have, then you're in absolute denial at this point IMHO.

But, more than a few months is probably time to start thinking about adjusting to a "new normal".

If your plan is to sock away years of freeze dried food to subsist on, what will you do when it runs out ? If you haven't figured out your niche in the new economy in that time you probably never will.

So either stash enough to last the rest of your life, or get prepared to rejoin whatevers left of society.


Now, when you look at things historically, there are things that are very cheap now, but if the global economy collapsed, they would be very very expensive, or even non existant.

Hell, my wife's spice cupboard would have marked us as one of the richest families in all of europe a few hundred years ago LOL.


So, you'll be able to acquire staples locally. Milk, eggs, that sort of thing will be available for trade.

But there are things that will not in a TEOTWAWKI situation. Things that are dirt cheap now, have a very good shelf life, and will be very much in demand.


Maybe you'll be able to trade a couple pounds of peppercorns for a years worth of milk. I know which of those is easiest to store.

That would be a great deal to strike with a local farmer. Fresh milk every day for you, and he doesn’t have to eat bland crap all year

Trade some more "unobtainable" products to the guy with the chickens for some eggs next.

I don't want to run a whole farm, but I'd be happy to trade with the guys who do.
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That is a good idea.. I believe in that situation trading labor would be common. In the depression it was common for a hobo to knock on a door and be willing to split firewood for a very small meal . Hoe the garden.
 
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My new freezer is filling up fast, but wife started using for some stuff I won't put any effort into keeping frozen if I have something better to put in its place. I'm going to tell her tonight that it is a 'meat locker', and the temperature is set very specifically for only meat. The kids frozen waffles are going to go bad in there.

Time to finish up the water storage project, then I am going to try curing some meat.
 
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spat said:
So, you'll be able to acquire staples locally. Milk, eggs, that sort of thing will be available for trade.
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so far the eggs are plenty , we can't stop the 8yr old from incubating eggs to make more chickens for more eggs LOL.

the milk part .. need to know the difference in cows .. bull or milk cow LOL .. then to get up way before the farmer and sneak in with a milk pail lol ..
 
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livingston said:
My friend I just last night sent my girlfriend the same you tube for her to look at. (before you posted this ) She likes to can and will try yo get her to make some . One can buy it in the store. If one does not have refrigeration it is another way to store a comfort food. As I have said before eating MRE's for a few months straight could get old .I will try to make an effort to grind wheat and make sourdough bread and english muffins. ... It will be a win win. for me... This woman has posted many interesting you tubes and it would pay for anyone to review . One that I watched was her cooking eggs on a rocket stove using wood. A very efficient process to cook with . I have that same stove. One could make a meal with just a 6 inch bundle of wood . With the right model one can use charcoal also
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great. You guys bought them all.
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Doc8404 said:
great. You guys bought them all.
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When I posted that link it said 9 available Honest they are great stoves.. .. Not one that you will throw into a ruck sack but for a base camp. great. This stove is made for people in 3rd world countries to conserve fuel instead of cooking over a fire... For this country a great stove for folks in a grid down situation. Google rocket stove and many other types are for sale. These are made in China I believe.
 
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Doc8404 said:
@GOPerfect probably bought them all.
Beats my Coleman camp stove.
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Every type of stove is important . I have many different types of stoves . I went through an ice storm and was without power for a week. ... Never again. I have a MRS EGK stove https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Extreme-Condition-Camping-Mountaineering-Stove/dp/B000EUMKFO
Perhaps a bit overkill . Folks use this in the arctic for months straight. Stove is bullet proof burns Gasoline ,Kerosene , Diesel, Jet fuel. White gas.
It only has one setting ... extreme high.. That is the only drawback. I have other stoves for kerosene ... The amish use this type of stove for pressure cooking Alpaca Kerosene Cooker
then there is a stove for propane and butane . I saw these a lot in China.
My kitchen stove was not working and took me a few weeks to get another. .. I was at Orvills at the time and they said I was lucky to have that on an incoming truck... . If not it could have been months to get one in . This was like in june. .. That backlog was just starting.
Just fired up that butane stove and used it right in the house. NO problem.
(Girlfriend thinks I may be prepping just a bit too much ) :ROFL:
 
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Squirrel and pigeon pie starting to look good yet?
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there is an abundance of food in the city if you know where to look, squirrels rabbits pigeons ducks , geese even city deer ,dandelions, bird eggs (maybe) Going to be looking for some some Air rifle, or crossbow action soon

The way I see it, its the last man standing theory, If I can outlast 25-50% of the local population. That much more food becomes available for me.

The winter could kill an insane numbers of people if it all went dark . If you can raise a few chickens and rabbits, you can have an endless supply of fresh meat add some fish and wild game when you can and you can get by . security is whole other issue .
 
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holdover said:
there is an abundance of food in the city if you know where to look, squirrels rabbits pigeons ducks , geese even city deer ,dandelions, bird eggs (maybe) Going to be looking for some some Air rifle, or crossbow action soon

The way I see it, its the last man standing theory, If I can outlast 25-50% of the local population. That much more food becomes available for me.

The winter could kill an insane numbers of people if it all went dark . If you can raise a few chickens and rabbits, you can have an endless supply of fresh meat add some fish and wild game when you can and you can get by . security is whole other issue .
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I deal with many different walks of life on my daily routine.

I am convinced that I will fair better than the vast majority.

If this Nation was to fall into really dark, I would only need to outlast most people for a week or two. A solid month and the food would be aplenty.

The overwhelming vast majority of people would not last one month during the winter in this area without all of the creature comforts. The street killings would be out of this world. The junkies and the crackheads would fall rather fast. The homeless would disappear like a fart in the wind.

Most people in my neighborhood would fail to succeed.

Each morning, I go a local park to feed the squirrels, they are everywhere. Shit ton of geese in the park.
 
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