AR-15’s should be banned because the founding fathers didn’t own them

[Saltwater60]

I didn’t know they were invented in the 1790’s. I’m also wondering when they will ban the internet and other forms of modern mass spreading of words/ideas because they weren’t invented and your first amendment rights don’t protect them.

Founding fathers didn’t own AR-15s or large capacity magazines, Pritzker and Raoul argue in defense of ban

Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul filed the brief to answer challenges to the assault weapon ban, arguing the nation’s founding fathers owned guns that could only shoot a single shot before reloading — proving assault weapons weren’t in “common use” at the time.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[SomeSoldier]

Need to hit harder. Ban porn, it wasn't invented in 1790. No more OnlyFans.

 

[Beerman]

I wish more people could lawfully exercise their right to keep, bear and simply own guns, but I REEEEEEEAAAAALLLY wish a lot more people in this country would exercise their right to remain silent.

 

[Saltwater60]

Need to hit harder. Ban porn, it wasn't invented in 1790. No more OnlyFans.

If this is the case you could really take banning this crap really far and wide. The federal government has expanded immensely since then so let’s cut the head off that snake and shrink it back down. Carbon emissions were invented or known about then either so stop regulating them.
I don’t know if this will fly because how could they ban or possess something that wasn’t invented then? They had the best and most modern guns of the day and if this thought is looked at from the opposite direction where no guns were banned, they had cartridge boxes that carried 30 rounds, and had bayonets affixed to their rifles well then their arguements don’t really hold up so they?

 

[SomeSoldier]

If this is the case you could really take banning this crap really far and wide. The federal government has expanded immensely since then so let’s cut the head off that snake and shrink it back down. Carbon emissions were invented or known about then either so stop regulating them.
I don’t know if this will fly because how could they ban or possess something that wasn’t invented then? They had the best and most modern guns of the day and if this thought is looked at from the opposite direction where no guns were banned, they had cartridge boxes that carried 30 rounds, and had bayonets affixed to their rifles well then their arguements don’t really hold up so they?

I am just saying that if they wanna play stupid games, lets play.

 

[BMF JK]

This argument holds no water . What they fail to understand (admit) is the founding fathers led a rebellion against a tyrannical govt . I’m certain they actually intended the people would possess weapons equal to the government.

 

[dsdmmat]

This argument holds no water . What they fail to understand (admit) is the founding fathers led a rebellion against a tyrannical govt . I’m certain they actually intended the people would possess weapons equal to the government.

Or superior to the government.

 

[pshift]

People WANT to be sheep. Hence, sheeple.

 

[Defilade]

Ban the Banners!

 

[Saltwater60]

I just go back to Biden saying we need an F-15 to fight the government today so the 2A tells me I can have an F-15 then.

 

[Beerman]

I just go back to Biden saying we need an F-15 to fight the government today so the 2A tells me I can have an F-15 then.

Exactly right, by their logic. “Plaintiffs cannot show the Act violates the Second Amendment because it regulates weapons designed for war, not self-defense.” The Japanese Self-Defense Force says a weapon can be designed for both. Soooo…

The Ukrainians are using every weapon they can get their hands on in SELF-DEFENSE of their country. I guess that’s not considered war since they’re on the defensive side?

 

[spat]

If this is the case you could really take banning this crap really far and wide. The federal government has expanded immensely since then so let’s cut the head off that snake and shrink it back down. Carbon emissions were invented or known about then either so stop regulating them.
I don’t know if this will fly because how could they ban or possess something that wasn’t invented then? They had the best and most modern guns of the day and if this thought is looked at from the opposite direction where no guns were banned, they had cartridge boxes that carried 30 rounds, and had bayonets affixed to their rifles well then their arguements don’t really hold up so they?

How about this.

The commerce clause was understood to only allow congress to resolve commercial disputes between states. Not anything anyone ever spent money on.

That would eliminate 95% of the federal government, since all those regulations are based on their power to regulate commerce.

 

[MothMan]

 

[spat]

I just go back to Biden saying we need an F-15 to fight the government today so the 2A tells me I can have an F-15 then.

Well, the founding fathers owned private warships.

So I think it means you can have your own ballistic missile submarine if you can afford one.

That would put a hell of a damper on any future plans for tyranny.

 

[spat]

People WANT to be sheep. Hence, sheeple.

People desperately want to not be responsible for anything.

That's why they cling so hard to the victim-as-virtue mantra. "It's not my fault I'm an unemployed drug addicted lover, it's societies".

That's also why everything in government and most corporations is written by anonymous bureaucrats and committees.

 

[Saltwater60]

Well, the founding fathers owned private warships.

So I think it means you can have your own ballistic missile submarine if you can afford one.

That would put a hell of a damper on any future plans for tyranny.

I think in my lifetime we may very well see China invade the USA.

 

[Beerman]

I think in my lifetime we may very well see China invade the USA.

You only need to live a few months the way things are headed.

 

[spat]

I think in my lifetime we may very well see China invade the USA.

Why invade when you can just purchase it.

They've been very successful with that strategy so far.

They own half of Washington.

And they've bought half of Africa already with their "belt and road" initiatives.

 

[FrankenCub]

I just go back to Biden saying we need an F-15 to fight the government today so the 2A tells me I can have an F-15 then.

Oh but you can, it only takes money. There's plenty of fighters in private hands. I'm sure some enterprising individuals can arm them.

 

[Saltwater60]

Why invade when you can just purchase it.

They've been very successful with that strategy so far.

They own half of Washington.

And they've bought half of Africa already with their "belt and road" initiatives.

Dictators want more and I wing the USA financially won’t be enough someday.

 

[ManualF150]

I look at 'Merica and we are a lost cause at this point. Just look at the topics on this forum for cripes sake.

I'm just sitting here watching the world burn.......

 

[spat]

Dictators want more and I wing the USA financially won’t be enough someday.

It's not just owning it financially.

They're subversion of the media and higher education as well corporate America is going to turn is into a vassal state.

They will have totalitarian control of the whole society without ever firing a shot.

In China the military is there to prevent revolution, it is not for use against foreign enemies. That's where we're headed as well.

 

[Catskillkid]

Politically incorrect time: Many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves....so should we bring back slavery?

 

[tirwin1]

Why invade when you can just purchase it.

They've been very successful with that strategy so far.

They own half of Washington.

And they've bought half of Africa already with their "belt and road" initiatives.

Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.

 

[Acer-m14]

they had the puckle gun LOL ... 1718 LOL

 

[spat]

Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.

Exactly, it's only treason if you lose.

In the state we're in *whichever* side loses will eventually be tried for treason. Either for selling out to China, or for trying to block the sale.

 

[dwa12479]

Unless they filed this brief using a quill pen written on parchment delivered to the courthouse by a pony express rider , your argument is stupid.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

They also, at that time, didn't have walking rectums trying to disarm the Country.

 

[Paxal]

I didn’t know they were invented in the 1790’s. I’m also wondering when they will ban the internet and other forms of modern mass spreading of words/ideas because they weren’t invented and your first amendment rights don’t protect them.

Founding fathers didn’t own AR-15s or large capacity magazines, Pritzker and Raoul argue in defense of ban

Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul filed the brief to answer challenges to the assault weapon ban, arguing the nation’s founding fathers owned guns that could only shoot a single shot before reloading — proving assault weapons weren’t in “common use” at the time.

chicago.suntimes.com

Zippos are dangerous and the founders didnt have them. Ban them. Automobiles are dangerous and the founders didnt have them. Ban them. Airplanes are dangerous and the founders didnt have them. Ban them.

 

[FP1201]

Well then, if AR's should be banned because they didn't exists in the time of our Founding, the Slavery should be allowed because it was... I prefer Irish Slaves over Black as they are less expensive to replace.