AR pistol legality?

[Saltwater60]

A friend told me a friend bought an AR pistol that has a removable magazine and no stock on the buffer tube, and he was telling me it’s legal. I said no way no how because it’s probably over 50oz and the mag doesn’t get inserted in the grip. He told me he bought it from an FFL and was told it’s perfectly legal as is. Anyone have any thoughts? I have a naked lower.
I will not disclose the FFL but it is a storefront so I’m a bit surprised this place is selling them.

 

[dsdmmat]

Yep your friend bought an AW according to NYS and the SAFE act.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yep your friend bought an AW according to NYS and the SAFE act.

Well it’s a friend of a friend and that’s what I told him. I said no way it’s legal and you should tell your friend to affix the mag asap because this store will be caught and all customers who bought one will be asked to produce this firearm at some point.

 

[dsdmmat]

Well it’s a friend of a friend and that’s what I told him. I said no way it’s legal and you should tell your friend to affix the mag asap because this store will be caught and all customers who bought one will be asked to produce this firearm at some point.

Yes they will. I suggest not making any You tube videos with it. You know like the dumb ass who had made a SBR and thought it was perfectly legal because it is on his pistol permit.

 

[FP1201]

In all fairness, and while I doubt this is one of them, there are or at least have been AR pistols made to come in under the 51 ounce Rule (Saltwater posted fifty, but I'm thinking it's up to 50 ounces, 51 of course would be over, but I digress)
I also expect that it's listed on said subjects Handgun Licenses, and there seem to be an attitude that if it's on there, it's "registered" and OK.

 

[Uzi]

You can legally have an ar pistol with a removable mag in NYS provided that it is "bolt action" or "single shot". Otherwise without a fixed magazine on a semi auto, there are no other alternatives for one. This would be easy to accomplish either way.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes they will. I suggest not making any You tube videos with it. You know like the dumb ass who had made a SBR and thought it was perfectly legal because it is on his pistol permit.

Yeah that’s why I mentioned it to him. They both think/thought it was perfectly legal. I told him I didn’t want him to walk into a gun range with a cop right next to him and get pinched.

 

[Saltwater60]

In all fairness, and while I doubt this is one of them, there are or at least have been AR pistols made to come in under the 51 ounce Rule (Saltwater posted fifty, but I'm thinking it's up to 50 ounces, 51 of course would be over, but I digress)
I also expect that it's listed on said subjects Handgun Licenses, and there seem to be an attitude that if it's on there, it's "registered" and OK.

Yes it is on his pistol permit. I found it weird though how he told me it was registered on his friends permit. At first he told me the shop did it and I said they can’t. Then he said they have him the paperwork to go downtown with and it was added to his permit. I’m surprised because I thought this guy knew what he was talking about.

 

[Saltwater60]

You can legally have an ar pistol with a removable mag in NYS provided that it is "bolt action" or "single shot". Otherwise without a fixed magazine on a semi auto, there are no other alternatives for one. This would be easy to accomplish either way.

True. I guess I didn’t ask him what action the firearm is. He did tell me it’s just the lower with the buffer tube and removable mag so I’m wondering if the FFL isn’t selling it as a completed gun but I took his conversation as a complete semi auto was legal let the FFL. Of course I wasn’t there and it’s from an FFL to a guy, to another guy, to me. I literally said he can’t take it to a range like that and shoot it but he said he was told yes so I’m going with it’s still semi auto.
I hate complicated laws because people get jammed up not realizing shit it illegal.

 

[Parzival]

Sounds like a typical friend of a friend story.

Does the shop have others for sale without a lock?

 

[Xae289]

Yes they will. I suggest not making any You tube videos with it. You know like the dumb ass who had made a SBR and thought it was perfectly legal because it is on his pistol permit.

Any idea whatever happened to that particular rocket surgeon?

 

[Vapor]

Sounds like a typical friend of a friend story.

Does the shop have others for sale without a lock?

Who wants to know Fed Boi?

 

[Saltwater60]

Sounds like a typical friend of a friend story.

Does the shop have others for sale without a lock?

I’m wondering it it was just the lower and buffer tube and they guy just thinks he can finish it and it’s fine. I’m thinking it’s legal to sell the lower with a buffer tube and I’m guessing this is the new grey area since the rifle license requirement. I can sell you this and then you risk doing whatever you do on your own.