ATF Plans to Classify Bump-Fire Stocks as Machine Guns!!

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TTAG Exclusive: ATF's Proposal to Regulate Bump Fire Stocks as Machine Guns - The Truth About Guns

We should be ready to flood them when the comment period starts.

SUMMARY: The Department of Justice anticipates issuing a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that would interpret the statutory definition of “machinegun” in the National Firearms Act of 1934 and Gun Control Act of 1968 to clarify whether certain devices, commonly known as “bump fire” stocks, fall within that definition. Before doing so, the Department and ATF need to gather information and comments from the public and industry regarding the nature and scope of the market for these devices.

DATES: Written comments must be postmarked and electronic comments must be submitted on or before [INSERT DATE 30 DAYS AFTER PUBLICATION IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER]. Commenters should be aware that the electronic Federal Docket Management System will not accept comments after Midnight Eastern Standard Time on the last day of the comment period.

 

[dsdmmat]

Just what the NRA asked for, stupid fuckers.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Why not? Everyone's terming AR's as weapons of war.

 

[Uzi]

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

If a bump fire is classified a machine gun then any firearm that goes bang with each pull of the trigger is a machine gun. Plain and simple. This would even include revolvers.

 

[holdover]

 

[spat]

Wouldn't this mean that they would need to open an amnesty period to get all the newly classified machineguns registered ?


Could be a net win, I'll drill that extra hole in as many AR receivers as I can find, even if I need to drive out of state to do it legally......

 

[freddy]

Wouldn't this mean that they would need to open an amnesty period to get all the newly classified machineguns registered ?


Could be a net win, I'll drill that extra hole in as many AR receivers as I can find, even if I need to drive out of state to do it legally......

Well!!!

 

[Celt]

We really shouldn't stand for any more anti gun legislation it doesn't matter what it is.

 

[Acer-m14]

fingers and belt loops to be banned next ...

 

[libertysnake]

Why not? Everyone's terming AR's as weapons of war.

Well, I mean that's kinda the point. The purpose of the second amendment wasn't so we could flick rocks at each other with slingshots. It was so the populace had access to military level small arms.

If anything we should be reversing the 86 ban so the civilian populace has access to suppressive functionality, not making stupid concessions on bump fire stocks.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Well, I mean that's kinda the point. The purpose of the second amendment wasn't so we could flick rocks at each other with slingshots. It was so the populace had access to military level small arms.

If anything we should be reversing the 86 ban so the civilian populace has access to suppressive functionality, not making stupid concessions on bump fire stocks.

Extrapolating the same logic towards other rights... We shouldn't be allowed freedom of expression and speech or free press anymore either. Because well ya know... Who in the 1700s could have intended their archiac ideas to apply to things like smart phones, the internet, instant communication, anonymous web forums, social media etc. The instantaneous damage that can be done now using social media could not have been predicted then so we should get rid of freedom of the press and expression. Back then they had a frigging movable printing press and town hall assemblies. That was their freedom of the press and expression.

 

[libertysnake]

Extrapolating the same logic towards other rights... We shouldn't be allowed freedom of expression and speech or free press anymore either. Because well ya know... Who in the 1700s could have intended their archiac ideas to apply to things like smart phones, the internet, instant communication, anonymous web forums, social media etc. The instantaneous damage that can be done now using social media could not have been predicted then so we should get rid of freedom of the press and expression. Back then they had a frigging movable printing press and town hall assemblies. That was their freedom of the press and expression.

Right. We’re in agreement. I don’t see the problem here?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Right. We’re in agreement. I don’t see the problem here?

Yes I agree with your earlier post. Just using a similar argument to show why you were right

 

[spat]

Well, I mean that's kinda the point. The purpose of the second amendment wasn't so we could flick rocks at each other with slingshots. It was so the populace had access to military level small arms.

If anything we should be reversing the 86 ban so the civilian populace has access to suppressive functionality, not making stupid concessions on bump fire stocks.

SCOTUS in Miller rules that *only* military style weapons were protected by the 2A.

So, that SAW should be covered and that muzzleloader isn't.

 

[nortatoga]

So the BUMP STOCK makes a AR 15 a Machine Gun like the M-16 which is a weapon of War! Then without a BUMP STOCK the AR 15 is not a weapon of War?

 

[Cavalry]

Wouldn't this mean that they would need to open an amnesty period to get all the newly classified machineguns registered ?

I'm thinking it will go more along the course of the Akins accelerator

 

[Devildog9999]

This has nothing to do with bump stocks. The WANT all AR's (and others) off the streets and will gradually impose new laws and regulations that have them deemed illegal to possess. Soon Muzzle loaders and Air Rifles will require a background check.

 

[Edwardteach72]

What' funny is how many "pro 2a" people even on this thread are probably jumping for joy to hear that bump stocks could be banned nationally or classified as an NFA machine gun which then if you think about it thanks to the hughes amendment (hey thanks NRA. Anyone see a pattern here) would make them illegal all together since it's after 1986

 

[Darth]

This is something you actually can blame the NRA for.

Not just their typical inaction, no. They specifically brought this about.

Pay up.

 

[libertysnake]

This is something you actually can blame the NRA for.

Not just their typical inaction, no. They specifically brought this about.

Pay up.

Already did, as I can’t give back my lifetime membership.

 

[Darth]

Already did, as I can’t give back my lifetime membership.

Things that make you want to kill yourself...


But seriously, I'd be ashamed if I was an NRA member.

 

[libertysnake]

Things that make you want to kill yourself...


But seriously, I'd be ashamed if I was an NRA member.

Not as ashamed as someone who votes democrat.

I once saw some asshat on the train who had pro-Hillsabeast onesies on her baby and hilldog T-shirt’s on her little kids. This was during the campaign. Hopefully she got a refund for it all. What a joke.

 

[Darth]

Hopefully she got a refund for it all

Refunded for the kid?

 

[libertysnake]

Refunded for the kid?

Probably should. Kid looked a little fugly.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

So, if someone already owns a bumpstock, will they have to register it? Ship it out of state? Modify it? Since machine guns are already outlawed here in New Yorkistan, if they declare it to be one, will it be subject to confiscation by the police?

 

[Edwardteach72]

So, if someone already owns a bumpstock, will they have to register it? Ship it out of state? Modify it? Since machine guns are already outlawed here in New Yorkistan, if they declare it to be one, will it be subject to confiscation by the police?

If they declare it a machine gun they wouldn' be legal anywhere not just new york. Since thanks to the NRA and Reagan no new machine guns for civilian ownership has been legal to make since 1986

 

[eagleridge357]

We really shouldn't stand for any more anti gun legislation it doesn't matter what it is.

Right, so eliminate the NRA then watch anti gun legislation vanish.

 

[Jezman]

Right, so eliminate the NRA then watch anti gun legislation vanish.

No but one would figure the NRA not to be supportive in a government push to give up our rights. Oh but they have repeatedly done that over the years. Oh never mind.

 

[Celt]

Thats

Right, so eliminate the NRA then watch anti gun legislation vanish.

Thats not what im saying, although the nra isnt doing us any favors in ny. Although, they're in business to keep themselves in business. They lobby on a federal level, and fight for gun rights when it suits them, but they play the game, and compromise our rights away when they feel like it.