Battle sights

[S&W Fan]

I'm looking for some info. On a good, affordable , set of battle sights. I am planning on putting a red dot on my new AR 15 ORC and I would also like to put on a set of decent battle sights as a back up. I have looked at several kinds and brands, incl. the offset style ( which I really like) but quite frankly,I have no idea what brands are better than the other. So, I'm looking for some feed back on what everybody thinks as far as what style and brand would be a good, quality and affordable set to purchase.

 

[Clipazine]

magpul flip-ups

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Aluminum Troy sites

Or Magpul pro.

Buy a good main optic and you will never need backups. I have never needed back up sights ever.

One time in the rain might red dot at water on the lens making the dot flair, I turn to Todd up and flipped up the irons, I still couldn't see shit. The only way the irons would have been any good is if they were not looking through the glass on the red dot because of the water I couldn't see.

I buy quality mean optics, so they never go down. I am not nice to my equipment in anyway shape or form it performs perfectly.

 

[FrankenCub]

I looked at quite a few different sets, some of the better ones were better than $100 each. I hate to spend a couple hundred on sights but many of the cheap set were, well, cheap. I kinda like aluminum better myself. Bullet Guy has a good point about not being able to see them through a fogged up optic. I don't care for the offset back ups, reminds me too much of hoodies, but may actually be a good idea. I'd like to buy something to practice with.

 

[S&W Fan]

Aluminum Troy sites

Or Magpul pro.

Buy a good main optic and you will never need backups. I have never needed back up sights ever.

One time in the rain might red dot at water on the lens making the dot flair, I turn to Todd up and flipped up the irons, I still couldn't see shit. The only way the irons would have been any good is if they were not looking through the glass on the red dot because of the water I couldn't see.

I buy quality mean optics, so they never go down. I am not nice to my equipment in anyway shape or form it performs perfectly.

I was wondering about that. That's kind of why I was interested in the off set kind. The Troy sights are definitely nice,but a bit expensive. I might as well pony up a little more and get a good quality optic. Thanks for the input.

 

[Podmonkey]

The regular non pro magpul mbus would be fine. They are light and durable.

 

[S&W Fan]

I looked at quite a few different sets, some of the better ones were better than $100 each. I hate to spend a couple hundred on sights but many of the cheap set were, well, cheap. I kinda like aluminum better myself. Bullet Guy has a good point about not being able to see them through a fogged up optic. I don't care for the offset back ups, reminds me too much of hoodies, but may actually be a good idea. I'd like to buy something to practice with.

I looked at a ton of different types in the last week. I liked the idea of the off set sights specifically because if the red dot failed,I would still have sights to look Through. The Aluminum Troy sights were nice but like you say, expensive, at least in the sense that if I were to spend that much I might as well go a little farther and get a good quality optic. Thanks for the input.

 

[GUNSICK]

Is this a stock bushmaster ORC?

 

[S&W Fan]

Is this a stock bushmaster ORC?

Armalite

 

[GUNSICK]

Armalite

I have a older set of YHM sights made for the Bushmaster ORC with the cut down gas block. They don't make them anymore. Thought you might be interested if you had that style gas block.

 

[MikeyCNY]

The regular non pro magpul mbus would be fine. They are light and durable.

But they're plastic so if you shoot full-auto for 10 minutes they'll melt!

(I have actually read that somewhere)

 

[GUNSICK]

But they're plastic so if you shoot full-auto for 10 minutes they'll melt!

(I have actually read that somewhere)

They aren't supposed to be used on gas block rails. He's going to need a gas block height front sight for the set up to work right anyway.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Unless you have an optic that has something etched on the glass when the red dot isn't on, you should have irons. Batteries die so all red dots will fail eventually. And even the etched glass ones can obviously break. If you can't see your irons through your glass then take the glass off. Either get a quick detach or make sure the removal tool for your red dot is part of your load-out.

 

[Podmonkey]

But they're plastic so if you shoot full-auto for 10 minutes they'll melt!

(I have actually read that somewhere)

Do you have a full auto AR hmmnn?
No the are not recomended for use on a gasblock rail. Failing that I think the plastic MBUS are light, tough and inexpensive. I have some fancy whizzbang BUS that came with my rifle but I am strongly considering replacing them with the MBUS to save on weight. I also like that the snap up at a touch. Just wish they locked in place.

 

[NY Leatherneck]

I have both magpul pro and troy. I believe the troy are better built but do not collaspe when pressure is put on them without depressing button. I do like the magpul pro for the reason if you are carrying and strike an object like a branch and collapse therby potentionally keeping it sighted properly. The magpuls are extremely low profile when collaped but the troy has a more familiar sight picture. Both run $150-175 a set.

 

[Frankly]

I've got plastic Magpuls and never needed them so it's nice they're lightweight.

 

[S&W Fan]

I'm literally picking up the rifle today so I don't know the answer to that. I'll check into it and let you know. Thanks

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I have a older set of YHM sights made for the Bushmaster ORC with the cut down gas block. They don't make them anymore. Thought you might be interested if you had that style gas block.

 

[Marine Cpl]

You'll never really need them if you have a quality optic unless you break the optic or if an EMP disables it's electronic components.

Both are highly unlikely so you might as well get the lightest ones that are battle proven durable.

Magpul.

 

[shootemup]

Aluminum Troy sites

Or Magpul pro.

Buy a good main optic and you will never need backups. I have never needed back up sights ever.

One time in the rain might red dot at water on the lens making the dot flair, I turn to Todd up and flipped up the irons, I still couldn't see shit. The only way the irons would have been any good is if they were not looking through the glass on the red dot because of the water I couldn't see.

I buy quality mean optics, so they never go down. I am not nice to my equipment in anyway shape or form it performs perfectly.

Unless you have an optic that has something etched on the glass when the red dot isn't on, you should have irons. Batteries die so all red dots will fail eventually. And even the etched glass ones can obviously break. If you can't see your irons through your glass then take the glass off. Either get a quick detach or make sure the removal tool for your red dot is part of your load-out.

I ended up getting a Vortex Spitfire (1x) due to my astigmatism, but I don't think I would buy just a red dot just for the etched reticle feature. Now I'm trying to decide between a Primary Arms 1-6x w/ ACSS reticle OR the 3x compact prism
w/ ACSS both are etched............only gonna be shooting at MAX, 150-200 yds.

Any thoughts are welcome. I really like the reticle and they are now offering lifetime warrantee according to some on ARFCOM.

 

[FrankenCub]

I ended up getting a Vortex Spitfire (1x) due to my astigmatism, but I don't think I would buy just a red dot just for the etched reticle feature. Now I'm trying to decide between a Primary Arms 1-6x w/ ACSS reticle OR the 3x compact prism
w/ ACSS both are etched............only gonna be shooting at MAX, 150-200 yds.

Any thoughts are welcome. I really like the reticle and they are now offering lifetime warrantee according to some on ARFCOM.

I have the ACSS reticle on my Holosun 503G and really like it. It's not etched though as I can change back and forth from the ACSS to 2mil dot. Target acquisition is really easy with it. The Primary Arms dot is made by Holosun, not sure about their scopes but the reticle being patented they may also be Holosun.
I think you'll like the reticle.

 

[shootemup]

I have the ACSS reticle on my Holosun 503G and really like it. It's not etched though as I can change back and forth from the ACSS to 2mil dot. Target acquisition is really easy with it. The Primary Arms dot is made by Holosun, not sure about their scopes but the reticle being patented they may also be Holosun.
I think you'll like the reticle.

is that the horseshoe or the chevron?

 

[FrankenCub]

is that the horseshoe or the chevron?

Both lol
This sight here Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS Reticle
I tried to screenshot an image but it doesn't come out right.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Batteries die .

BUY MORE BATTERIES!!!!!

Most every store has batteries. Inexpensive and readily available.

I never understood this rational.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

BUY MORE BATTERIES!!!!!

Most every store has batteries. Inexpensive and readily available.

I never understood this rational.

What if the red dot is broken?

 

[S&W Fan]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I have been doing some research and checking out what rifle optics world had to say about the various styles of AR optics and what they endorse and why. Since I already have a Primary Arms Micro dot I think I'll stick with that for starters to see what I like and dislike, then go from there.

 

[Frankly]

If you have a consistent cheek weld and a few aiming shots I bet you could still shoot without any sights or optics and hit practical targets at practical distances. Probably faster and better than fumbling with, "OMG my batteries died and I have no spares and I'm 5000 miles from the store." Or, "Jeezum I can't afford any practice ammo because I spent $200 on extraneous sights I never use".

 

[Marine Cpl]

What if the red dot is broken?

You shoot through it with irons and if that is not possible, you take it off.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

What if the red dot is broken?

See my post #3 above (copied for your reading pleasure:

Buy a good main optic

I bet you would actually have to work extremely hard to break an aimpoint micro.

Aluminum Troy sites

Or Magpul pro.

Buy a good main optic and you will never need backups. I have never needed back up sights ever.

.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

A great option for some is just only using iron sights. Buy some troy iron sights and you are good for life.

I ran irons for my whole life. I shot 3 gun with irons for my first 3 years......so i could save up for that $1400, 1-6 optic i wanted. It was a buy once cry once. It has never failed me.

The only regret i have is not being able to buy it sooner.

 

[Marine Cpl]

In the decade or so of the U.S. Military using Aimpoints and Acogs, you can probably count to less than 10 when a combat soldier's optic failed him that he had to go to irons.

This is while being banged up inside humvees, banging it against the ground, banging it against walls, ect.

The Marines do not even use backup sights on an Acog equipped rifle.