Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees

[livingston]

Pelosi in April 2021: 'We Cannot Require Someone to be Vaccinated. That's Just Not What We Can Do'​

Why not consider something like requiring that everyone be fully vaccinated?” a reporter asked Pelosi at an April 29, 2021 press conference, to which Pelosi repeatedly replied that vaccinations cannot be mandated:
What’s more, the government cannot even keep track of who is – and who isn’t – vaccinated, Pelosi said:

“It is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn't.
“I can't go to the Capitol Physician and say, ‘Give me the names of people who aren't vaccinated, so I can go encourage them or make it known to others to encourage them to be vaccinated.’ So we can't – we can't do that.”

The full transcript of the reporter’s question and Pelosi’s answer is presented below:

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[BuffNiag]

It’s pretty clear that Biden is being sacrificed to further the Dem agenda. His time as POTUS is short.

 

[livingston]

Biden: "If these governors won't help.. I'll use my power as President to get them out of the way."​

 

[Robin]

Boogaloo

I'm ready!
Oh wait..................wrong boogaloo! Lots of people are ready.....

Robin

 

[libertysnake]

Biden: "If these governors won't help.. I'll use my power as President to get them out of the way."​

No.

 

[livingston]

Cowboy79
September 9, 2021 7:10 pm


Under Workmen’s Compensation laws, Employers who mandate vaccines as a condition of employment are liable for illness and side effects. To escape responsibility, Employers will try to sidestep responsibility by outsourcing the actual injection to a 3rd party contracted nurse, who then becomes the liable party. Employer will claim the injection was voluntary. Ask the person doing the injection if they are an employee of the company requiring the vaccine and if not, what is the status of their liability insurance because you refuse to be injected unless the company is liable or the nurse is liable. Refuse to sign a waiver of liability in any consent form (there will certainly be one). You cannot be forced to waive liability for an experimental mRNA gene therapy.
Does Workers' Comp Cover an Employee's Reaction to a COVID-19 Vaccine?
Insurance Implications of Required Vaccines
Mandatory vaccinations can lead to comp claims, OSHA recordables - Business Insurance

White House Releases Mandatory Vaccine Rules for U.S. Workforce and Reinstalls Fence Around Capitol to Avoid Backlash - The Last Refuge

The timing of the Capitol Hill fence being reinstalled by the police; and the deployment of the national guard to surround the capitol; at the same time that Joe Biden announces mandatory vaccine requirements for almost all workers in the United States, are not f**king coincidental. First, the...

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[Dr. Evil]

It’s pretty clear that Biden is being sacrificed to further the Dem agenda. His time as POTUS is short.

So is his memory.

 

[SomeSoldier]

So is his memory.

I mean his age is up, so maybe the rest of him too.

Any who, start finishing up your preps.

 

[livingston]

It’s pretty clear that Biden is being sacrificed to further the Dem agenda. His time as POTUS is short.

Joe Biden is a disposable front-man for the people organizing the objective, so they don’t have to worry about political damage. The Biden term was designed for a single set of four-year rapid advancements for the Democrat Socialist agenda. The Biden poll ratings and favorability, or lack therein, do not factor into the plan of action; those issues are irrelevant.

CTH has been warning about the Chicago network behind Biden and their objective. We have accurately predicted their moves, but what we cannot determine is how the larger American electorate will respond to these encroachments.


[December 2020] Why is COVID-19 being disproportionately hyped as such a dangerous threat, when the reality of the statistical danger is much less than the intense level of hype?… That is the key question.


The answer is… social changes under the guise of COVID-19 mitigation, are the entry point for the goals and aspirations of the political left on a national and global scale. COVID-19 is a virus, but also a very important political weapon, and we are discovering what the purpose of the hype is all about. What follows below will help understand; and when you encounter the fear it will help to reconcile/explain what people cannot figure out.

Joe Biden is an avatar; a political pawn; a cognitively declining guy who has no idea what is happening around him. The people behind Biden, those in real control of what this is about, have not hidden their goals and aspirations. These are not stupid people. They are scheming, conniving, ever-planning, ever-manipulating & Machiavellian types within the political system; lusting for power, influence and affluence.

Think about how states that refuse to participate in the mandates will be cut off from federal grants and funding for college tuition, Medicare and/or medicaid reimbursement, etc. etc.

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Look at what blue states and federal agencies have already done to seize power and control. Now think about that same manipulative intent spread throughout the entire country by weaponizing federal agencies with advanced COVID-enabled regulation.

Those behind the executive branch; those controlling Joe Biden; will harness and weaponize the power; a power dynamic created by fear. Meanwhile the legislative leftists will attempt to ensure the new systems they create under the guise of COVID-19 are never in a position to be withdrawn.

White House Jen Psaki Announces Biden Will Use Full Weight of Federal Regulatory Agencies to Require Vaccination., Dept of Labor, OSHA - The Last Refuge

Here it comes…. the Jab is the priority. It has little to do with public health, and everything to do with control toward the “Build Back Better” society. Earlier today, Jen Psaki was asked if the Biden administration was going to use regulatory agencies to push and enforce mandatory...

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[livingston]

No.

Think about how states that refuse to participate in the mandates will be cut off from federal grants and funding for college tuition, Medicare and/or medicaid reimbursement, etc. etc.

 

[libertysnake]

Think about how states that refuse to participate in the mandates will be cut off from federal grants and funding for college tuition, Medicare and/or medicaid reimbursement, etc. etc.

Overdue that we said no thanks to the blood money / theft money. The sooner we stop taking, the sooner we can stop giving it to them.

 

[cgrutt]

Here's a quick work around for mid sized companies, break yourselves up.

Got 500 employees ? Then spin off all your business units to separate companies with exclusive relationships.

We no longer have an accounting department, we spun those guys off to be a new accounting business, we are their only client.

Manufacturing is now 4 companies, one running the machines for each shift, and one that owns and maintains them. Each shift rents the machines for 8 hours....

Shipping and receiving, yea, that's another separate business.


So, no, we don't have more than 100 employees. We are dozen different smaller companies that just work *very* closely together.

While I appreciate where you're coming from administratively, legally and financially it would be a nightmare. Oh, so you're not one 1500 person Corp? Your 15? Great now you got 14 additional fed, state and local tax returns, payroll returns, sales tax returns etc. In a regulated industry... yep now 15x regulatory filings. Where's firewall between the different companies so sensitive business, customer and employee records are kept confidential? You got those transfer pricing agreements in place? Oh not showing any profit... you're not a business you're a hobby! Group health program? Sorry premiums just went up your too small for group discounts. I could go on but you get the idea.... work around isn't the answer. The 800 lb gorilla in the corner knows the answer lol...

 

[ArmedCorgi]

How about states get behind their citizens and encourage non payment of federal tax. The feds can't arrest a whole state or states. They lose that tax money and their game gets played against them. Time for the states take the feds down a few pegs.

 

[libertysnake]

How about states get behind their citizens and encourage non payment of federal tax. The feds can't arrest a whole state or states. They lose that tax money and their game gets played against them. Time for the states take the feds down a few pegs.

That would require that states do not allow federal officers into their states. That's the only way such would be possible. They'd have to exercise the 10th.

 

[Defilade]

 

[Defilade]

So we are going to mandate this?

 

[spat]

How about states get behind their citizens and encourage non payment of federal tax. The feds can't arrest a whole state or states. They lose that tax money and their game gets played against them. Time for the states take the feds down a few pegs.

The problem is that the feds don't need the tax money to operate.

They can just print cash.

The only reason anyone has to pay any federal taxes is to remove enough of the cash they are printing from the economy to keep inflation in check.

In a situation like this they aren't going to care about inflation, hell, they *want* to crash the economy so they can blame capitalism and bring in communism to "save us".

 

[SonOfSun]

Think about how states that refuse to participate in the mandates will be cut off from federal grants and funding for college tuition, Medicare and/or medicaid reimbursement, etc. etc.

When the govt. was going to stop giving money to "sanctuary states" lots around here cheered. Now that funding may be withheld over things that many here don't like it's all tears. "Just do what the govt. says and you'll get your money", right? Cmon, that's what many around here were saying back then. Guess many here don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

If nothing else the hypocrisy is amusing. I'd have some sympathy, but stones and glass houses...

Edit: this is more of an observation, I don't agree with vaccine mandates.

 

[libertysnake]

The problem is that the feds don't need the tax money to operate.

They can just print cash.

The only reason anyone has to pay any federal taxes is to remove enough of the cash they are printing from the economy to keep inflation in check.

In a situation like this they aren't going to care about inflation, hell, they *want* to crash the economy so they can blame capitalism and bring in communism to "save us".

Oh yeah?

 

[spat]

That would require that states do not allow federal officers into their states. That's the only way such would be possible. They'd have to exercise the 10th.

It would take more than that.

What do the feds do when you don't pay ?

They seize your assets.

For most assets, that doesn't mean sending the repo man by with a tow truck. It means telling a bank to change some numbers in a database.

When they seize your house, it's just paperwork. They will claim they own it now, and sell it to someone else (megacorp real-estate vulture inc) and wash their hands of it.

Then it's you vs megacorp, who will file the paperowork and get the local cops to evict you from *their* house.

Classic facism (the corporations and government working together to oppress you).

No federal agent need step foot in the state.

 

[spat]

When the govt. was going to stop giving money to "sanctuary states" lots around here cheered. Now that funding may be withheld over things that many here don't like it's all tears. "Just do what the govt. says and you'll get your money", right? Cmon, that's what many around here were saying back then.

If nothing else the hypocrisy is amusing. I'd have some sympathy, but stones and glass houses...

Stop letting the government take money from the states, only to turn around and give it back with strings attached.

I think that's what most here have believed from the get go.

 

[libertysnake]

It would take more than that.

What do the feds do when you don't pay ?

They seize your assets.

For most assets, that doesn't mean sending the repo man by with a tow truck. It means telling a bank to change some numbers in a database.

When they seize your house, it's just paperwork. They will claim they own it now, and sell it to someone else (megacorp real-estate vulture inc) and wash their hands of it.

Then it's you vs megacorp, who will file the paperowork and get the local cops to evict you from *their* house.

Classic facism (the corporations and government working together to oppress you).

No federal agent need step foot in the state.

Same response as last time I think.

 

[libertysnake]

When the govt. was going to stop giving money to "sanctuary states" lots around here cheered. Now that funding may be withheld over things that many here don't like it's all tears. "Just do what the govt. says and you'll get your money", right? Cmon, that's what many around here were saying back then. Guess many here don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

If nothing else the hypocrisy is amusing. I'd have some sympathy, but stones and glass houses...

Edit: this is more of an observation, I don't agree with vaccine mandates.

There is no need for a middleman in any situation to simply take our money, only to give it back with additional rules. It never made sense. It has to stop as it's emboldening central authority.

 

[SonOfSun]

Stop letting the government take money from the states, only to turn around and give it back with strings attached.

I think that's what most here have believed from the get go.

I generally agree. Some taxes are OK imo for funding national defense and maybe something for national disasters and the like, but run of the mill funding operations should be left to each state. A state can reasonably predict and plan for an education budget, etc. A trifecta of back to back magnitude 10 earthquakes, not so much.

That however wasn't what I was noting. I was talking about the general happiness around here when the Trump admin wanted to defund certain states when they didn't agree with him or took actions he disagreed with. People around here weren't saying they should stop taking their money, they were happy about the idea of defunding. Now that it's working against them it's all tears. I find it amusing.

 

[libertysnake]

I generally agree. Some taxes are OK imo for funding national defense and maybe something for national disasters and the like, but run of the mill funding operations should be left to each state. A state can reasonably predict and plan for an education budget, etc. A trifecta of back to back magnitude 10 earthquakes, not so much.

That however wasn't what I was noting. I was talking about the general happiness around here when the Trump admin wanted to defund certain states when they didn't agree with him or took actions he disagreed with. People around here weren't saying they should stop taking their money, they were happy about the idea of defunding. Now that it's working against them it's all tears. I find it amusing.

What matters is the conclusions people are coming to now. I don't think anyone was "OK" with it really back then, just that they felt it justified if we're defunding states that go against the national policy on immigration.

I'm not sure anyone here was "Oh yay, it's great the federal government is so big and huge!"

The fed should never have gotten this big. It should only serve as a loose way to hold things together, not an overpowering authority.

 

[spat]

I generally agree. Some taxes are OK imo for funding national defense and maybe something for national disasters and the like, but run of the mill funding operations should be left to each state. A state can reasonably predict and plan for an education budget, etc. A trifecta of back to back magnitude 10 earthquakes, not so much.

That however wasn't what I was noting. I was talking about the general happiness around here when the Trump admin wanted to defund certain states when they didn't agree with him or took actions he disagreed with. People around here weren't saying they should stop taking their money, they were happy about the idea of defunding. Now that it's working against them it's all tears. I find it amusing.

They were happy that the leftists favorite tactic was being turned against them, not that they were approving of the tactic to begin with.


Imagine the joy in London when the announcement about the first bombs dropped on Berlin ?

That's not say that the British people were in favor of bombing civilians in general, but in a total war, you don't hold back any tactics because the are "unsportsmanlike".

The only way to stop the left from using these abhorrent tactics is to make them feel the pain.

The Geneva (and Hague) convention would never have happened if the atrocities were only committed by the winners.

So, as distasteful as it may be, if your enemy employs a successful tactic, you employ it better, no matter how horrible it is.

 

[Blimey]

What % of Americans are going to told?

How many will make this their hill?

Many talk a lot, but, when the real hits; they cave.

Not sure what I am going to do if his plan of mandatory shots for veterans if they want to continue to receive the VA Benefits.

Not sure where my hill is going to be.

Tough decisions to make in the next few months.

A lot of people say they believe the election was stolen. Very few did anything about it other than whinge and bleat about it on forums. Most people are very content to rage online but will never lift a finger to stand up for something they claim is important to them.

I’ve observed that generally when people say things like “this is a red line” or “we won’t take it”what they really mean is “I hope this is a redline for somebody else and that they risk everything because I won’t.”

 

[libertysnake]

A lot of people say they believe the election was stolen. Very few did anything about it other than whinge and bleat about it on forums. Most people are very content to rage online but will never lift a finger to stand up for something they claim is important to them.

I’ve observed that generally when people say things like “this is a red line” or “we won’t take it”what they really mean is “I hope this is a redline for somebody else and that they risk everything because I won’t.”

Then what's the plan? A get together of the well known people on this board to organize? I say let's do it and form a fucking PAC at the very least.

 

[Vapor]

A lot of people say they believe the election was stolen. Very few did anything about it other than whinge and bleat about it on forums. Most people are very content to rage online but will never lift a finger to stand up for something they claim is important to them.

I’ve observed that generally when people say things like “this is a red line” or “we won’t take it”what they really mean is “I hope this is a redline for somebody else and that they risk everything because I won’t.”

Yep, just like the safe act.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Then what's the plan? A get together of the well known people on this board to organize? I say let's do it and form a fucking PAC at the very least.