MothMan
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Brand new ETF holding one of my favorite tokens $ADA.
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Any Bitcoin fans care to explain the current downtrend? I would think with war on the horizon it would be stronger.
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truthspreader99
22lr
their running a sale. grab some while you can
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Any Bitcoin fans care to explain the current downtrend? I would think with war on the horizon it would be stronger.
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This might play a part.
AI-driven layoffs have accelerated in recent years, particularly in the tech sector. In 2026 alone, over 150,000 tech jobs have been cut across more than 500 companies, including major firms like Oracle, Meta, Snap, Amazon, and Block, with AI explicitly cited as a primary driver in many cases
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The U.S. labor market in 2026 is experiencing significant job losses, with hundreds of thousands of positions cut across multiple sectors, driven largely by automation, AI adoption, and corporate restructuring.
Overview of Job Losses
The start of 2026 has seen a continuation of a labor market trend described as the "efficiency era," where companies are reducing headcount to invest in automation and AI infrastructure. In January alone, nearly 600,000 jobs were cut across tech, logistics, finance, and manufacturing, marking a 15% rise in layoff velocity compared to previous periods (Economic Times)This follows over 1.1 million job losses in 2025, indicating a structural shift rather than a cyclical downturn
To borrow a phrase, what does that have to do with the price of bitcoin in china lol. Do only people in tech, logistics finance and manufacturing buy bitcoin? The national unemployment rate is certainly up from its low of 3.5% back in 2022 but at 4.3% we're not exactly in a depression. Bitcoin is down 35% from its high in january. With an ever increasing federal debt and concerns about inflation that seems rather remarkable.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
IMO, the crypto bear market is a lot of manipulation to get people into position before the Clarity act is passed. Also the banks are lobbying like heck to control the legislation in order to limit yield on stablecoins deposits. 0.1% interest is good right? In that case crypto is no better than fiat. Banks are hurriedly developing their own blockchain specific to their product. So who needs a different chain.
A lot of angst amongst the online crypto posters, mostly finger pointers who didn’t get rich quick enough.
My plans are more generational and am bagging for my great grand kids. It would be ok if a million $$ fell out but not holding my breath. I hold almost no $BTC or $ETH enough for gas fees. My major investments are in $ADA & $AMP and am buying the down trend.
A lot of angst amongst the online crypto posters, mostly finger pointers who didn’t get rich quick enough.
My plans are more generational and am bagging for my great grand kids. It would be ok if a million $$ fell out but not holding my breath. I hold almost no $BTC or $ETH enough for gas fees. My major investments are in $ADA & $AMP and am buying the down trend.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
600k people still have mortgages and rent to pay. and they may not have found jobs yet . Gold and silver have also come down quite a bit since Jan I guess you never fell on hard times before. because when You do, you tend to sell off asset's in order to keep your head above water. Im not saying thats the only reason, or its a depression, Like I stated before it might be playing a part . Im talking from experience
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My hunch is that people feel uneasy about overall market sentiment so they pull it out and either are trying a more traditional investment or saving for some massive fear dip. For a “free self from banks” pitch crypto has it sure follows the traditional market fearsAny Bitcoin fans care to explain the current downtrend? I would think with war on the horizon it would be stronger.
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It’s faker than a dollar bill. It’s only worth something because some people think it is. Where does its value come from? At least the dollar has the backing of the government. Bitcoin has nothing.
I just hope the girl I know don’t invest in it like she was talking about. She was retiring and a friend was telling her to buy a bunch of them. That was when the price was around $102,000 a coin. I hope she listened to me on how much it would have to increase for it to be worth it. Say you buy 5 of them for $500,000 at the price it was. It goes up 10%. You make $50,000 on an investment risk of $500,000. Yikes. At least stocks are backed by innovation and assets. This is hocus pocus. I’m not saying they can’t be good investments or won’t ever make money because they can. A friend of mine got filthy rich off bitcoin early on. He was mining his own id say about 15 years ago just screwing around before it took off. He won’t say what he made but he sold it when it was about $35,000-$40,000 a coin. I can’t imagine if he held onto it until it was $100,000 a coin.
OwnTheRide
6.5 Creedmoor
The pattern over the years has been come down off a new ATH and drop to around the previous ATH. The previous ATH was $65k, which is where BTC has been hovering for a few months now. We'll see what happens next.
I'm frankly a little surprised it was able to get this low again. With all of the institutional investment, I thought it might break out of the 4-year cycle.
I expect that it will be back up to a new ATH around late 2028.
I'm frankly a little surprised it was able to get this low again. With all of the institutional investment, I thought it might break out of the 4-year cycle.
I expect that it will be back up to a new ATH around late 2028.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
USA can't get the Clarity Act passed.
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Russia will let investors trade three major cryptocurrencies
Last week, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law to provide comprehensive regulation of cryptocurrencies in the country for the first time. Following his nod, the country's central bank has proposed exchange trading of three cryptocurrencies, namely Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH), and ...
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
As of mid-2026, approximately 960,000 to 1.2 million Bitcoins remain to be mined.
Bitcoin has a fixed maximum supply of 21 million coins, a limit hard-coded into its protocol by Satoshi Nakamoto to ensure scarcity and prevent inflation As of 2026, over 20 million BTC have already been mined, meaning more than 95% of all Bitcoins that will ever exist are already in circulation Estimates vary slightly depending on the source, with figures ranging from 939,000 to 1.2 million BTC left to mineNew Bitcoins are created as a reward for miners each time a block is added to the blockchain. This reward is halved approximately every four years, a process known as the halving, which gradually slows the rate of new Bitcoin issuance .Because of this mechanism, the remaining Bitcoins will be mined very slowly over the next century, with the last Bitcoin expected around the year 2140
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As of mid-2026, approximately 960,000 to 1.2 million Bitcoins remain to be mined.
Bitcoin has a fixed maximum supply of 21 million coins, a limit hard-coded into its protocol by Satoshi Nakamoto to ensure scarcity and prevent inflationMining Schedule and Halving
New Bitcoins are created as a reward for miners each time a block is added to the blockchain. This reward is halved approximately every four years, a process known as the halving, which gradually slows the rate of new Bitcoin issuance Because of this mechanism, the remaining Bitcoins will be mined very slowly over the next century, with the last Bitcoin expected around the year 2140Lost Bitcoins
It is important to note that a significant number of Bitcoins are permanently lost, estimated between 2.3 million and 3.7 million coins, due to lost private keys or inaccessible wallets This reduces the effective supply available for trading or spending, making the remaining mineable Bitcoins even more valuable.Summary
- Total supply cap: 21 million BTC
- Mined so far: ~20 million BTC
- Remaining to mine: ~960,000–1.2 million BTC
- Expected last Bitcoin mined: ~2140
- Lost coins: 2.3–3.7 million BTC
The scarcity of Bitcoin, combined with the halving schedule and lost coins, ensures that the remaining supply will continue to be released gradually, supporting its long-term value and rarity
Im not an expert in crypto, but I have to ask , why would I want to put money into bitcoin when theres so little left? In other words , once bitcoin is at or near its all time high, why buy it when there is little chance it will go up ? Say it capped at 250K. whos going to buy it and why?
Saltwater60
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I kind of feel like once the 21 million number is hit and it’s been a year or so the price will completely stagnate. I think right now it’s like I gotta get my hands on some before this 21 million figure and that’s driving the price. I’m no bitcoin expert though and it’s just a feeling I have.As of mid-2026, approximately 960,000 to 1.2 million Bitcoins remain to be mined.
Bitcoin has a fixed maximum supply of 21 million coins, a limit hard-coded into its protocol by Satoshi Nakamoto to ensure scarcity and prevent inflation As of 2026, over 20 million BTC have already been mined, meaning more than 95% of all Bitcoins that will ever exist are already in circulation Estimates vary slightly depending on the source, with figures ranging from 939,000 to 1.2 million BTC left to mine
New Bitcoins are created as a reward for miners each time a block is added to the blockchain. This reward is halved approximately every four years, a process known as the halving, which gradually slows the rate of new Bitcoin issuance .Because of this mechanism, the remaining Bitcoins will be mined very slowly over the next century, with the last Bitcoin expected around the year 2140
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As of mid-2026, approximately 960,000 to 1.2 million Bitcoins remain to be mined.
Bitcoin has a fixed maximum supply of 21 million coins, a limit hard-coded into its protocol by Satoshi Nakamoto to ensure scarcity and prevent inflationbleap.finance+2. As of 2026, over 20 million BTC have already been mined, meaning more than 95% of all Bitcoins that will ever exist are already in circulation
Mining Schedule and Halving
New Bitcoins are created as a reward for miners each time a block is added to the blockchain. This reward is halved approximately every four years, a process known as the halving, which gradually slows the rate of new Bitcoin issuance Because of this mechanism, the remaining Bitcoins will be mined very slowly over the next century, with the last Bitcoin expected around the year 2140
Lost Bitcoins
It is important to note that a significant number of Bitcoins are permanently lost, estimated between 2.3 million and 3.7 million coins, due to lost private keys or inaccessible wallets This reduces the effective supply available for trading or spending, making the remaining mineable Bitcoins even more valuable.
Summary
- Total supply cap: 21 million BTC
- Mined so far: ~20 million BTC
- Remaining to mine: ~960,000–1.2 million BTC
- Expected last Bitcoin mined: ~2140
- Lost coins: 2.3–3.7 million BTC
The scarcity of Bitcoin, combined with the halving schedule and lost coins, ensures that the remaining supply will continue to be released gradually, supporting its long-term value and rarity
Im not an expert in crypto, but I have to ask , why would I want to put money into bitcoin when theres so little left? In other words , once bitcoin is at or near its all time high, why buy it when there is little chance it will go up ? Say it capped at 250K. whos going to buy it and why?
Also, make no mistake the cap could be removed. I don’t think it will be but it could be.
I've never understood how Bitcoin could replace any currency, specifically the US dollar. A growing economy needs a money supply that grows as well. How a nation's (or the world's) economy can grow if transactions are based on a finite and capped currency is beyond me.As of mid-2026, approximately 960,000 to 1.2 million Bitcoins remain to be mined.
Bitcoin has a fixed maximum supply of 21 million coins, a limit hard-coded into its protocol by Satoshi Nakamoto to ensure scarcity and prevent inflation As of 2026, over 20 million BTC have already been mined, meaning more than 95% of all Bitcoins that will ever exist are already in circulation Estimates vary slightly depending on the source, with figures ranging from 939,000 to 1.2 million BTC left to mine
New Bitcoins are created as a reward for miners each time a block is added to the blockchain. This reward is halved approximately every four years, a process known as the halving, which gradually slows the rate of new Bitcoin issuance .Because of this mechanism, the remaining Bitcoins will be mined very slowly over the next century, with the last Bitcoin expected around the year 2140
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As of mid-2026, approximately 960,000 to 1.2 million Bitcoins remain to be mined.
Bitcoin has a fixed maximum supply of 21 million coins, a limit hard-coded into its protocol by Satoshi Nakamoto to ensure scarcity and prevent inflation
Mining Schedule and Halving
New Bitcoins are created as a reward for miners each time a block is added to the blockchain. This reward is halved approximately every four years, a process known as the halving, which gradually slows the rate of new Bitcoin issuance Because of this mechanism, the remaining Bitcoins will be mined very slowly over the next century, with the last Bitcoin expected around the year 2140
Lost Bitcoins
It is important to note that a significant number of Bitcoins are permanently lost, estimated between 2.3 million and 3.7 million coins, due to lost private keys or inaccessible wallets This reduces the effective supply available for trading or spending, making the remaining mineable Bitcoins even more valuable.
Summary
- Total supply cap: 21 million BTC
- Mined so far: ~20 million BTC
- Remaining to mine: ~960,000–1.2 million BTC
- Expected last Bitcoin mined: ~2140
- Lost coins: 2.3–3.7 million BTC
The scarcity of Bitcoin, combined with the halving schedule and lost coins, ensures that the remaining supply will continue to be released gradually, supporting its long-term value and rarity
Im not an expert in crypto, but I have to ask , why would I want to put money into bitcoin when theres so little left? In other words , once bitcoin is at or near its all time high, why buy it when there is little chance it will go up ? Say it capped at 250K. whos going to buy it and why?
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The day this thread was started: two people regularly invest--one in bitcoin, one in SP500. The equities investor out ahead.
spat
.950 JDJ
Simple, it deflated.
Just like what would happen if every country switched to a gold standard.
As the value of all commerce rises, but the supply of gold or bitcoin remains constant, then the individual prices drop.
This has been occurring with bitcoin for a long time. The value of transactions denominated in bitcoin has increased much much faster than the supply of bitcoin.
That's why the exchange rate has gone from 10,000 bitcoin for 2 papa John's pizzas in 2010 (approx a $41 value) to significantly more today....
Because at the time that $41 transaction was the entire economy for about a million bitcoins in existence.
Today there are about 20x as many bitcoins, but the economy surrounding them has grown to about $20T worth of equivalent transactions.
spat
.950 JDJ
Cool, go back a couple years further and see what it looks like.
Guessing which strategy is going to win by this time next year is a fools errand.
I certainly wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I did buy some bitcoin to play with years ago, and if I'd dumped my 401k money there instead of a fund, lets just say I wouldn't need to ask "how much does it cost" for anything anymore.
Need to get out of the dollar and into real assets like physical silver and gold.
JD VANCE DECLARES THEY’RE ENDING THE DOLLAR AS RESERVE CURRENCY
JD Vance just confirmed it: the dollar’s global status is over because it lets Americans “consume too cheaply.”
This is not a casual statement to be made.
Every crisis was financially engineered to force the new system, just like 1971 when they killed gold convertibility. Even the COVID money printing came when the U.S. Repo market was about to collapse in 2019.
JP Morgan CEO warned that U.S. dollar will no longer be a reserve currency within the next 25 years.
China’s been on a massive gold-buying spree. Every central bank is doing the same. South Korea just started buying gold after 13 years.
Japan is the biggest threat.
BoJ’s Yuto apologized for the measures being prepared. The BoJ and finance minister threatened of bold actions to save the yen.
Then Boom, the US Treasury intervened and effectively took control of BoJ operations to stop Japan dumping its $1.4T in Treasuries, which would collapse the entire US debt market and trigger a global liquidity crisis.
Scott Bessent even warned the Fed: expand the FIMA facility for Japan… or watch the U.S. Treasuries implode.
Central banks, IMF, BIS and the biggest financial institutions engineer the financial crisis to get out of the mess they made.
Fiat Money is next.
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JD VANCE DECLARES THEY’RE ENDING THE DOLLAR AS RESERVE CURRENCY
JD Vance just confirmed it: the dollar’s global status is over because it lets Americans “consume too cheaply.”
This is not a casual statement to be made.
Every crisis was financially engineered to force the new system, just like 1971 when they killed gold convertibility. Even the COVID money printing came when the U.S. Repo market was about to collapse in 2019.
JP Morgan CEO warned that U.S. dollar will no longer be a reserve currency within the next 25 years.
China’s been on a massive gold-buying spree. Every central bank is doing the same. South Korea just started buying gold after 13 years.
Japan is the biggest threat.
BoJ’s Yuto apologized for the measures being prepared. The BoJ and finance minister threatened of bold actions to save the yen.
Then Boom, the US Treasury intervened and effectively took control of BoJ operations to stop Japan dumping its $1.4T in Treasuries, which would collapse the entire US debt market and trigger a global liquidity crisis.
Scott Bessent even warned the Fed: expand the FIMA facility for Japan… or watch the U.S. Treasuries implode.
Central banks, IMF, BIS and the biggest financial institutions engineer the financial crisis to get out of the mess they made.
Fiat Money is next.
View attachment 7QC2VxBAcqCd1t5a.mp4
As usual the video you post does not support your claim. Vance did not "declare" anything. He was thinking out loud about how the dollar as a reserve currency impacts consumer spending. Curious the clip ends where it does - my bet is he qualifies the statement even more.
You and your videos are completely unreliable. Not surprising for a flat earth believer. If you invested 1/10 of the effort you spend on these videos into trying to understand the topics you talk about both you and the forum would benefit.
And as usual you focus into something and try your best to make something else. So are you saying that the Fed Chair didn't state what he said? How about JP Morgan? He didn't state that either? Why are Central banks and many Countries hording massive amounts of Gold? That not happening? Newsflash for ya. The US is dead financially. Nobody is buying our debt and that is how we survive, that and printing Fiat monopoly money and inject it in the stock market. Stop spinning around! You are giving yourself a headache.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY WILL URGENTLY BUY GOVERNMENT BONDS TODAY AT 4:00 PM ET, RIGHT AFTER THE MARKET CLOSES!
THEY ARE INITIATING EMERGENCY INTERVENTION TO PREVENT A HUGE MARKET CRASH ON TUESDAY.
SOMETHING EXTREMELY BAD IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW...
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THEY ARE INITIATING EMERGENCY INTERVENTION TO PREVENT A HUGE MARKET CRASH ON TUESDAY.
SOMETHING EXTREMELY BAD IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW...
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BREAKING U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY WILL URGENTLY BUY GOVERNMENT BONDS TODAY AT 4:00 PM ET, RIGHT AFTER THE MARKET CLOSES! THEY ARE INITIATING EMERGENCY INTERVENTION TO PREVENT A HUGE MARKET CRASH ON TUESDAY. SOMETHING EXTREMELY BAD IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW...
No joke... I'm going from memory but sometime in like 2012 (maybe sooner?) I read some random article talking about Bitcoin and explaining what crypto currency was. It was the first I hear it.
At the time bit coins were like $10 each when I was reading this and looked it up. I toyed with the idea of buying some, but then the rational part of my brain decided that I thought it was a stupid idea to spend real money (even just $50 on electronic crypto money that exists in the ether) when I need to pay real bills now.
Looking back at how crazy my life would have been if I randomly dropped $100 to buy 10 Bitcoins still gets me to chuckle every once in a while. I'm sure if I would have bought 10, and seen their value actually going up to 20,30 etc I certainly would have bought more too.
I would probably be on a beach or in a mountain compound right now.
Yes... That happened....
Who knew?
Life is random like that. Wish I would have taken the risk but I believe things work out how they're supposed to.
spat
.950 JDJ
I had a buddy who was into bitcoin in the real early days. Like he was mining them on an old 486 PC he had laying around early days.
He ended up selling them all to put his kid through college when they were a couple hundred bucks each.
If he'd kept them instead the grandkids wouldn't have ever had to work a day in their lives, let alone the kid.
But, at the time it was just as likely they could have ended up worthless, you never know.
So dumb it down for me, how does the Asian markets tanking, selling off bonds affect the US?
I totally believe it does and I've heard it many times, I just am not appreciating the linked interconnected process of the 2 events.
Essentially is it correct to say, that if no one is buying our bonds that it's the end of unchecked limitless fiat money printing?
Thats a serious problem if nobody is buying our bonds or treasuries. We will be forced to buy them and we would have to once again print the money to cover the cost which increases inflation and will devalue our dollar some more.