Businesses That Allow Carry in NYS - UPDATED By Counties

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Sorry for the derailment.

I've got about 15-20 pairs of Wigwam. I used to think they were the best also. That changed when I bought SmartWool socks, and also Darn Tough Vermont socks. Both are better than all my Wigwam's.

They are expensive, but worth it. The Darn Tough are actually guaranteed for LIFE. I've already used the guaranty for a pair that are over the calf (when I wear boots I need otc). After a few wears they didn't stay up otc. I exchanged them for a different style. No return shipping charge. No additional charge for the more expensive new pair. No shipping for the new pair.

The ONE PROBLEM with Darn Tough, they are definitely a liberal company. But so are so many others that we all deal with. At least they truly stand behind their claim of 'these are lifetime socks'. Check them out:

Darn Tough Vermont Socks

Sorry for the derailment.
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I agree with everything you said here. I bought a pair of wigwam socks thinking they were great and hearing good things about them. I was not very happy and after one wash they pilled up like crazy. I have some darn tough and I wear them much more and they hold up way better. I too like smart wool socks.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
If you have your license then you are in lawful possession of your pistol :)
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Bringing this comment back up because I saw the list of rules at the Victor mall and the last one said something like "firearms are prohibited unless you have a valid permit". Can't remember the wording right now, but it sure made me think that CC is ok there.
 
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Eagle Crest Vineyards is GTG. They are in Conesus in Livingston County.

The owner is a firm believer in the Constitution, if you ever go you will see what I mean. Good folks here. Really down to earth. Live entertainment on Sundays.

If you're in the region and want to do some wine tasting or just hang I recommend giving it a shot.

ETA: can we sticky this thread? I had to hunt a bit to find it. Also looks like it needs a bit of updating, not a knock just noticed. OP, thanks for doing this.
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I’ll remember that next time I’m in a wine store
 
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So what happens when an individual decides that because you're from an opposing party, you shouldn't vote! Or a judge decides because you're the wrong race, your not entitled to protection under the law! We've seen some venues try to limit what people wear (clothing with speech)... Bad examples, but this is much the same, that it's left to individuals to decide if and how you may exercise your right(s)... A ridiculous notion and brilliant checkmate move by Liberals to put this into the law (unconstitutional) passed by NYS.

A business does not get to decide, sorry! And concealed is concealed! Now, the question is would we give extra attention to those who publicly declare they're Constitution Friendly? Ehhhh... I'm not so sure! It just reinforces the idea that it's up to someone else to decide what I do, that I need permission to live or how I might live! Just more deeply entrenched Liberal Programming right there!

So FUNY and you're bullshit law, restricting possession to being a safe queen! And FUNY for thinking it's ok to transfer authorization for exercising my 2nd Amendment Right to business or property owners. Thank you very much, but I'll do what ever it is that makes me smile in my pursuit of happiness!!! It's all good mind you, for those who need approval, or seek to reward bad behaviors. To each their own.

Just my thoughts... Have a great day!
 
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Carlos Hathcock said:
Against my better judgement I stumbled into a WalTard in Hamburg this morning.....preparing myself for the typical anxiety that accompanies such a decision. I was surprised to see this. Apologies if it's already been posted.....

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I have seen it posted here somewhere before, but in any case it's pretty problematic. Saying "refrain from openly carrying a firearm", even with the "openly carrying" part highlighted is not saying that carrying concealed is acceptable, and therefore doesn't in any way grant the express 'permission' required by the current law.
 
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Franz Auto Service, Inc. (Mechanic shop) in New Paltz (Ulster County) has a carry allowed sign. Pretty surprising too really, as New Paltz is the local most hippy dippy leftist area around.
 
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HEX said:
I have seen it posted here somewhere before, but in any case it's pretty problematic. Saying "refrain from openly carrying a firearm", even with the "openly carrying" part highlighted is not saying that carrying concealed is acceptable, and therefore doesn't in any way grant the express 'permission' required by the current law.
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It clearly does in my mind. If concealed carry wasn't allowed it would say that and would make open carry a moot point.
 
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Concealed is Concealed!

I don't need your permission to exercise my "GOD" given Right... A right not assigned, entitled or defined by the Constitution, only recognized! And the ONLY Right with explicit instructions associated with the recognition!!!
Is amazingly ng the founders had the foresight to see what would come and provide that additional instruction set...

I don't remember reading the disclaimer in the Constitution to "check" with my neighbor if it's ok, or the business down the block...

Is a fucking joke, and the joke is on anyone who complies with this utter bullshit!

Have a great day!
 
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Carlos Hathcock said:
It clearly does in my mind. If concealed carry wasn't allowed it would say that and would make open carry a moot point.
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Unfortunately bud (and for all of us in this case), the law doesn't care about what you personally think makes sense based on what ISN'T said. First of all the law clearly states the signage must must expressly give permission; which that does not. Second, a quick and simple google search finds that signage has been on every Walmart since 2019, and is directly related to Walmart then adopting a policy of asking customers to refrain from openly carrying firearms. It has nothing at all to do this new NY law or adopting signage to comport with it.

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I don't need your permission to exercise my "GOD" given Right... A right not assigned, entitled or defined by the Constitution, only recognized! And the ONLY Right with explicit instructions associated with the recognition!!!
Is amazingly ng the founders had the foresight to see what would come and provide that additional instruction set...

I don't remember reading the disclaimer in the Constitution to "check" with my neighbor if it's ok, or the business down the block.
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I'm assuming you're a Christian of some stripe or other. So, I am genuinely curious exactly what right or rights did your god give you that relates to this, and specifcally where does it tell you that in your bible ? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't remember any part like that. I do remember however where it gives very specific rights and instructions, just for example, for people to buy and own you as property. Funny that people who do this rights given by god stuff don't go around lamenting THOSE kinds of 'God given' rights (you know.. that are actually in the book) being interfered with by these pesky laws.
This isn't about religious belief itself, no matter how you, I, or anyone else feels about it. The point is about representing any argument for gun ownership with hypocricy and unfalsifiable claims, and where that leaves cultural mindsets toward it. There is however a Bill oF Rights, that actually objectively exists our shared reality. (Well, in so much as we can confirm anything objectively exists). If Conservitives of this country cannot stop foolishly intertwining guns and god as an identity, then gun ownership will fall.

EDIT: If you're not of an Abrahamic religion however, I would be interested in learning about this religion that's giving out gun rights. That's one I might could get down with.

EDIT 2: Also, I really didn't want to interrupt and possibly derail this thread about a listing of businesses with signs , but I kind of feel like that's what you did here, and the sort of 'holier-than-though' (pun intended, given the subject matter) attitude about compliance and such I found irritating; which is what really prompted my response. That, and that any discussion/encouragement/whatever of illegal actively/implying breaking the law is strictly against the rules of the site, and non-compliance stuff can very much push that line (I'm not saying you crossed it). What you do is your business, but any activity not in compliance with the law by members cannot be discussed here if the site is to continue to exist.
So, that said, if you feel like answering my initial questions, or voicing your opinons on the law and such, maybe just move it to a thread about the law, start a new one about your 'god given rights', PM me to tell me I'm a big heathen meanie if you like, whatever. Let's let this thread actually be about listing businesses with signs.
 
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HEX said:
Unfortunately bud (and for all of us in this case), the law doesn't care about what you personally think makes sense based on what ISN'T said. First of all the law clearly states the signage must must expressly give permission; which that does not. Second, a quick and simple google search finds that signage has been on every Walmart since 2019, and is directly related to Walmart then adopting a policy of asking customers to refrain from openly carrying firearms. It has nothing at all to do this new NY law or adopting signage to comport with it.


I'm assuming you're a Christian of some stripe or other. So, I am genuinely curious exactly what right did your god give you that relates to this, and where does it tell you that in your bible ? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't remember any part like that. I do remember however where it gives very specific rights and instructions, just for example, for people to buy and own you as property. Funny that people who do this rights given by god stuff don't go around lamenting THOSE kinds of 'God given' rights (you know.. that are actually in the book) being interfered with by these pesky laws.
This isn't about religious belief itself, no matter how you, I, or anyone else feels about it. The point is about representing any argument for gun ownership with hypocricy and unfalsifiable claims, and where that leaves cultural mindsets toward it. There is however a Bill oF Rights, that actually objectively exists our shared reality. (Well, in so much as we can confirm anything objectively exists). If Conservitives of this country cannot stop foolishly intertwining guns and god as an identity, then gun ownership will fall.

EDIT: If you're not of an Abrahamic religion however, I would be interested in learning about this religion that's giving out gun rights. That's one I might could get down with.
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So if their sign said "stealing allowed from the donut case" would that make stealing allowed in the rest of the store? If they haven't bothered to update their signage that's not on me. If the sign is open to interpretation, then change the signage to make it crystal clear.
 
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Carlos Hathcock said:
So if their sign said "stealing allowed from the donut case" would that make stealing allowed in the rest of the store? If they haven't bothered to update their signage that's not on me. If the sign is open to interpretation, then change the signage to make it crystal clear.
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What Walmart did was "punt on 3rd down". They went out of their way to try really hard to not take any stance on anything that might be political so they have a generic non-descript position so they can't be called out by either side.

Instead of just having a concealed carry welcome sign they and risk having some group like moms against gun violence make statements against them.

In many states their standard "please refrain from open carry" works because their customers can still legally conceal carry. It doesn't work the same way here in NY where the business has the burden to visibly opt in for their customers to legal conceal carry.

But as they say, concealed is concealed. If you really actually need it, whatever the consequences might end up being would be worth it. Besides I'm still not totally convinced that a DA would actually charge a NY state licensed pistol owner carrying their legal gun on private property that has no position on guns (i.e. no signs either way pro or anti) if they followed all other laws and were justified in their self defense. They may choose not to expose the ridiculous CCIA to that scrutiny and just choose not to charge.

It might even be as simple of an explanation as if Walmart Expressly permits concealed carry in their store their insurance provider would charge them a higher rate, so to qualify for a lower rate they can't have a corporate policy to allow conceal carry. This is how corporations work


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Walmart Gun Policy​

As it stands, Walmart allows the concealed carry of weapons at their stores in accordance with state laws. This means that as long as you are acting in accordance with the laws of your state, you can conceal carry a weapon while shopping at Walmart.

However, even in states that allow open carry, Walmart shoppers are not allowed to open carry firearms at Walmart under any circumstances.


Open Carry of Firearms​

Motivated by our desire to create a safe environment in our stores and clubs, we request that customers no longer openly carry firearms into Walmart or Sam’s Club locations in states where open carry is permitted – unless they are authorized law enforcement. As of September 2019, we are working to create and display new signage to help communicate this policy.



We will continue to follow state and local laws regarding concealed carry permit holders.


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