Charlie Kirk shot (merged threads)

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Drinkthekoolaid said:
Since the other thread was locked.... Let's discuss here


My prediction, someone is going to make their own decisions that they will believe that radical left news like CNN and MSNBC have been gaslighting and programming mentally unstable people into hating America and hating Trump and hating conservatives that they will start to take kinetic actions against entities they view as a threat to the country.

Just my fictitious prediction, this is not a call to violence.


I think the bombastic outrageous sewer news that pushes this rubbish has warped lefty minds and they will have a reckoning one way or another, I'm personally hoping they get sued into oblivion.
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Personally, I think social media is more the culprit. If it weren't for my side-business and really being the only way to keep up on local news/issues by me I would dump Facebook in a heartbeat. Tick Tock, X, and all the rest are no better.

I was in college when Facebook first came out. It was fun then. Just profiles of people you knew and pages for common interests. Now? All you do is scroll through an endless oblivion of ads and pages for sites that I never signed up to follow that are click-baity (at best) and spew the most vile comments about any topic, though particularly politics, that you can imagine at worst. The comments section on those sites are probably even worse if you can imagine. I sometimes catch myself mindlessly scrolling just getting angry at the stupidest freaking thing. I still have enough presence of mind to stop myself and disengage.

But a lot of folks can't. It really doesn't take much for someone who really doesn't have a whole lot going on in their lives, limited family, friends, and social activities, and a crappy job or no job at all, to become radicalized by this crap (either the far left or far right for that matter). That's how Al Qaida and the rest of the terrorist groups get their recruits.

But I agree with you on one part. Charlie was not a politician, though he spoke about politics often. He could be forceful but of all the interviews I've seen him give he always allowed people to speak their minds and tried to use logic, reason, and sound arguments to change their mind and debate them in a productive way. Dare I say an AMERICAN way.

A lot of people are absolutely outraged that this could happen. I think if his widow makes a statement for calm most will honor it, but if she doesn't, I can see a lot of violence happening. Against who or what I don't know. I certainly don't advocate for it, but it will not be pretty.
 
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I am saddened to read this news.

It's game on, actually, it has been game on for quite a while now. I would like to remind everyone about the 2 assassination attempts on President Trump. Plus all of the other underhanded stuff that the Democrats do, and there is a lot of it.

For whatever reason, much of the right side of the political spectrum just doesn't want to come to terms with the fact that the left, the Democrats, are already at war with this country's way of life and traditions in general.
 
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Catskillkid said:
Personally, I think social media is more the culprit. If it weren't for my side-business and really being the only way to keep up on local news/issues by me I would dump Facebook in a heartbeat. Tick Tock, X, and all the rest are no better.

I was in college when Facebook first came out. It was fun then. Just profiles of people you knew and pages for common interests. Now? All you do is scroll through an endless oblivion of ads and pages for sites that I never signed up to follow that are click-baity (at best) and spew the most vile comments about any topic, though particularly politics, that you can imagine at worst. The comments section on those sites are probably even worse if you can imagine. I sometimes catch myself mindlessly scrolling just getting angry at the stupidest freaking thing. I still have enough presence of mind to stop myself and disengage.

But a lot of folks can't. It really doesn't take much for someone who really doesn't have a whole lot going on in their lives, limited family, friends, and social activities, and a crappy job or no job at all, to become radicalized by this crap (either the far left or far right for that matter). That's how Al Qaida and the rest of the terrorist groups get their recruits.

But I agree with you on one part. Charlie was not a politician, though he spoke about politics often. He could be forceful but of all the interviews I've seen him give he always allowed people to speak their minds and tried to use logic, reason, and sound arguments to change their mind and debate them in a productive way. Dare I say an AMERICAN way.

A lot of people are absolutely outraged that this could happen. I think if his widow makes a statement for calm most will honor it, but if she doesn't, I can see a lot of violence happening. Against who or what I don't know. I certainly don't advocate for it, but it will not be pretty.
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I think we're about the same age because that's also my experience.

About 10-15 years ago I deleted all my Facebook and Myspace and I've never looked back nor missed it. I'm so much happier and waste less time. Its liberating to disengage. The only social media I have now are forums like this and watching YouTube.



Don't forget many events like the Congress softball shooter, multiple attempts on president Trump, multiple namelsss random acts of violence for wearing a red hat, school shooters targeting Christian schools. It's pretty clear to me that the left is eager to commit violence against those they disagree with.
 
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I'm sliding off topic for a second. But I just want to say once again...

That there's never a bad time to top off your preps.
Don't forget pet supplies if applicable.

The Democrat Party has been hijacked by extremists. These are not the Bill Clinton era Democrats. These are (starting with Obama) current-day brainwashed, mentally ill anti-American douchebags.
We are living in interesting times.
 
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Bigfoot said:
I'm sliding off topic for a second. But I just want to say once again...

That there's never a bad time to top off your preps.
Don't forget pet supplies if applicable.

The Democratic Party has been hijacked by extremists. These are not the Bill Clinton era Democrats. These are (starting with Obama) current-day brainwashed, mentally ill anti-American douchebags.
We are living in interesting times.
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Yes. They are cornered politically and know they are doomed. This makes them dangerous.
 
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Defilade said:
Yes. They are cornered politically and know they are doomed. This makes them dangerous.
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That is a very important point... Exactamundo.

Beans and bullets is the correct answer. The Democrats are fucking nuts. Who knows what they're going to do next? There's only one solution to this problem. The thing is, they, the modern day Democrats, are thinking the same thing just in an opposite way.

But I don't think this is going to end well for those fucking fucks.
 
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Defilade said:
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An unbelievable moment on the House floor.

Rep. Lauren Boebert requests a moment of prayer for Charlie Kirk.

Democrats can be heard shouting "no!"

Then, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna shouts back "y'all caused this!"
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I watched this a bit ago.

To a point...

Not even sure how to respond to this shit.

Especially not here.
 
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One side can effectively fight with words and ideas.

One side insists that anyone not in lockstep with them is a Nazi. They are emotionally fragile and told that they are under attack by everyone who does not 100% agree with them.

I cannot see how any bipartisanship is still feasible.

It is not possible to reason with brainwashed zealots.
 
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GOPerfect said:
I watched this a bit ago.

To a point...

Not even sure how to respond to this shit.

Especially not here.
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Did you expect anything else from the party racism and hate? They like to talk big about love and tolerance but in reality they anything but that.

In the closed thread I made a remark about is this a white George Floyd moment? I think it may have been misunderstood. What I ment was should we as conservatives start to riot like the libtard liberals did. Mostly said tounge in cheek, mostly!
 
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So when do the Fake News Media people get it too, well, never mind, but you know.
I think this is a sign that things are about to turn into the next chapter, and in the long run, it isn't going to end well for some people.

At this point, if a modern-day Democrat were drowning, I'd throw him/her a cinder block.
And I would/will make no apologies.
 
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The poor guy was dead before he hit the ground really. Saw the video and the map above someone posted sounds about right. Just over a 0.15 seconds from impact to sound. Maybe 140 yards or so. How this person got away clean is a mystery to me. IMHO they had serious help. No weapon recovered either confirms others were involve. I hope they scoop up all cell data like they did with Jan 6th people and locate everyone that was there and where those MAC addresses are now. The Butler PA shooter had a MAC address of a device in his home and then two blocks from the FBI in DC.

One thing is certain and that is the democrat party, its members are all radicalized beyond help. Charlie Kirks death will be the end of the far left wing in America come midterms. I hope anyway. :mad::beer: :flag:
 
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Phazer said:
One side can effectively fight with words and ideas.

One side insists that anyone not in lockstep with them is a Nazi. They are emotionally fragile and told that they are under attack by everyone who does not 100% agree with them.

I cannot see how any bipartisanship is still feasible.

It is not possible to reason with brainwashed zealots.
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I must be a Nazi....
 
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livingston said:
This was last weekend ... Protesters got very close to Trump....
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They really have no idea. None at all. They think yelling, screaming and getting in peoples faces is winning.

I hope, I really hope that the events of the last few months sets off something that will not be stopped for years to come.
 
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View attachment VID_20250910_215648_460.mp4

Moments before he was shot, a man in a white shirt and hat to Charlie’s right shoulder is seen making multiple hand gestures touching his ear and hat.

He needs to be questioned immediately.

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Guy in the black shirt also makes hand signals right before Charlie was shot.

Now this could just be totally normal if this is his security team… but everyone needs to be questioned immediately and confiscate all of their devices.

Leave no stone unturned
 
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