Chicago. Mother orders 14 year old to kill man.

[Doc8404]

How is this not murder?

Carlishia Hood, woman accused of ordering 14-year-old son to shoot, kill man at hot dog stand, will no longer face murder charges

Carlishia Hood, 35, and her son had both been charged with first-degree murder last week for the June 18 shooting death of Jeremy Brown, 32, at the hot dog joint Maxwell Street Express, CBS Chicago…

nypost.com

 

[Dr. Evil]

I always knew hot dogs were bad for your health.

 

[Cavalry]

Good shoot, no matter the legal angle. One asshole removed from the population and at least one removed for a spell.

 

[Doc8404]

Good shoot, no matter the legal angle. One asshole removed from the population and at least one removed for a spell.

yes but if charged and convicted it would be two dirt bags off the streets.

 

[C3D]

Students of the Daniel Penny Experience™ would know to let the original two assholes shoot each other and not get involved, because Kim Foxx might charge you with murder. Even if she is later forced to dismiss charges because a video exists that your actions were justified.

 

[Robin]

yes but if charged and convicted it would be two dirt bags off the streets.

Is there a nuclear option?
Robin

 

[dwa12479]

Watching the video... there was an argument and the man then attacked the Mom. At that point the kid started shooting. Looks like a good defensive shoot to me.

 

[Jchrisls]

Further down the article, the mother and son duo pursued the perp out of the store as he tried to flee, and the mother continued to instruct the son to shoot to kill him, which he continued to fire. At that point it may be no longer self defense, as contact was broken. The perp had been shot in the back while in the store.

 

[Nevar]

FIGURES

 

[Acer-m14]

a good legal watch .. good the mom and kid are free .. they got lucky thou ..

"A viral self-defense video of a mom who orders her son to shoot her attacker is making the rounds on social media. But what do the attorneys say? Does the self-defense incident appear to be justified? Armed Attorneys Emily Taylor and Richard Hayes discuss "stand your ground" law, defense of a third party, and other legal precedents."

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I'm not condoning any of the actions of either party, but there are those that say they should've just left the establishment. I don't see how, in the eyes of a prosecutor, this was self defense.

 

[Jchrisls]

I'm not condoning any of the actions of either party, but there are those that say they should've just left the establishment. I don't see how, in the eyes of a prosecutor, this was self defense.

Once the male became physical, I could see it becoming self defense of a 3rd party ( albeit that 3rd party needs to be innocent, and in this, to me, is questionable). Imo- the self defense ended @ the door. Pursuit after the initial engagement ended ends the self defense claim.

 

[repete]

Good shoot, no matter the legal angle. One asshole removed from the population and at least one removed for a spell.

First shot yes, but then, "The wounded man fled the restaurant but was followed by the young teen and his mother, who reportedly told her son to keep shooting and kill the man."
AND THIS
"The mom then allegedly instructed her son to shoot a woman who had been laughing and encouraging Brown during the earlier fight, prosecutors said,"

So while it started as self defense it ended in murder!

 

[Cavalry]

First shot yes, but then, "The wounded man fled the restaurant but was followed by the young teen and his mother, who reportedly told her son to keep shooting and kill the man."
AND THIS
"The mom then allegedly instructed her son to shoot a woman who had been laughing and encouraging Brown during the earlier fight, prosecutors said,"

So while it started as self defense it ended in murder!

I think you just reinforced why legal reasons aside this was a good shoot.

 

[repete]

I think you just reinforced why legal reasons aside this was a good shoot.

How can you call this a "good shoot" when they chased the guy OUTSIDE and fired multiple rounds hitting him two more times? The threat and the act of self defense was OVER the moment the man fled, after that it became an act of revenge and ended in murder. Why where the changes dropped? Who do these people know? Sure the dead guy was a scumbag and maybe the worlds better off without him, but that didn't give 'mom and sonny' the right to chase and murder him.

 

[Acer-m14]

hummm

man fled to maybe cause more harm to someone else .. ??

need to stop thinking of NYS Laws and how it is here ..

but that didn't give 'mom and sonny' the right to chase and murder him.

so then is ok for him say chase the mom and beat her to death with his hands ..


Rabid Animals need to be put down ..

 

[repete]

Just read another story about this, seems mommy and son are now suing the city BUT the real interesting tid bit of info in that story is that the kid PULLED THE GUN FROM HIS HOODIE AFTER RECIEVING A TEXT FROM MOM! First and foremost is why did the kid ( a child) have the gun?
If mom was getting beat so bad how did she test sonny? If she could send a text she should have been able to disengage. And the final one How is it self defense to follow the attacker outside and continue to shoot him IN THE BACK at least two more times?

 

[Jchrisls]

Just read another story about this, seems mommy and son are now suing the city BUT the real interesting tid bit of info in that story is that the kid PULLED THE GUN FROM HIS HOODIE AFTER RECIEVING A TEXT FROM MOM! First and foremost is why did the kid ( a child) have the gun?
If mom was getting beat so bad how did she test sonny? If she could send a text she should have been able to disengage. And the final one How is it self defense to follow the attacker outside and continue to shoot him IN THE BACK at least two more times?

Bit deeper info. Mom legally owned gun. Good shoot for defense of 3rd party by son, but I agree pursuing him with additional shots after initial defense is questionable.

 

[Acer-m14]

minor with a gun .. not a adult for charges

gangs do the same thing .. have the minors carry the guns ..