Collins to unveil federal bill that he says would repeal NY’s SAFE Act | Orleans Hub
Not much said about it.
Not much said about it.
Collin's challenging the Safe Act?
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HDMotorCop
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Interesting idea, hopefully Collins will be able to get it on the table.
With how little movement H.R. 38 has gotten (up to 207 cosponsors as of 7-31-17) I highly doubt this will go anywhere. Not to mention no one in the house or Senate actually want to do anything. But this would be cool if it did get some momentum
The federal level in this case does nothing
And I'm sorry this is all probably political to try and look so pro 2A.
Where was this type of work in the last 4 years since the safe act was passed.
Or even better yet, where was all this "im so pro 2A for new york" between 2004 and 2013 when there was the modified Clinton assault weapons ban. (Oh cool some shit was grandfathered in so meh we as new Yorkers will just deal with it, but oh no now we can't have our grandfathered stuff or rifles set up kinda how we want them so now let's pretend we have been fed up)
Oh or even better where were then they for New York's ban on NFA items and the Sullivan Act. That's been on the books since 1911, but haven't heard of any of them trying to get that off the books
Where was this type of work in the last 4 years since the safe act was passed.
Or even better yet, where was all this "im so pro 2A for new york" between 2004 and 2013 when there was the modified Clinton assault weapons ban. (Oh cool some shit was grandfathered in so meh we as new Yorkers will just deal with it, but oh no now we can't have our grandfathered stuff or rifles set up kinda how we want them so now let's pretend we have been fed up)
Oh or even better where were then they for New York's ban on NFA items and the Sullivan Act. That's been on the books since 1911, but haven't heard of any of them trying to get that off the books
spat
.950 JDJ
So, they're not perfect, so fuck him ?
We need to support every ally, not just the "perfect" ones.
I'm not saying fuck him, I'm pointing out this is something that isn't going to go anywhere other than a oh hey look at me i love the 2a so vote for me.
There are 5 month left in the year and he is just now going to try and introduce a bill that is (as I've read it would be amazing if passed) so over the top he knows it won't go anywhere but can be used for when he's out stumping to try and get gun votes
spat
.950 JDJ
I'll take some pro 2A grandstanding, even if they dont make any progress. In the very least, it sends the message that pro 2A is a good thing.
EVEN IF IT IS just grandstanding, it is the kind of grandstanding we need.
No I get that and agree to a point. But if they are going to do something don't make it so obvious, hell even make it something a bit over the top but also still a long shot to have some movement.
I do give Collins some credit as he did cosponsor hr 38 fairly early only 10 days after it was introduced
"To amend title 18, United States Code, to limit the authority of States
and localities to regulate conduct, or impose penalties or taxes, in relation
to rifles or shotguns."
That's it?
What about the penalties and taxes, AND FEES, I have to pay to own a pistol in New York? What about the infringements and burdens I have to go through to get something I can use to protect myself and my family when I am not in my home?
This is primarily written to protect the right to own ARs, based on the way it is written. it may also have an effect in stopping the ban of standard capacity magazines.
it's a good start, i guess, but doesn't go far enough to rein in the oppression and tyranny we are forced to endure here in New York.
and localities to regulate conduct, or impose penalties or taxes, in relation
to rifles or shotguns."
That's it?
What about the penalties and taxes, AND FEES, I have to pay to own a pistol in New York? What about the infringements and burdens I have to go through to get something I can use to protect myself and my family when I am not in my home?
This is primarily written to protect the right to own ARs, based on the way it is written. it may also have an effect in stopping the ban of standard capacity magazines.
it's a good start, i guess, but doesn't go far enough to rein in the oppression and tyranny we are forced to endure here in New York.
Deplorable Me
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SCOPE Erie County, Monday press conference
I'm looking forward to encountering protesters. This was out last week. Hopefully see some of you there.
If Collins thinks constituents don't give a shit, how do you want him to respond? Stand together or perish one by one.
I'm looking forward to encountering protesters. This was out last week. Hopefully see some of you there.
If Collins thinks constituents don't give a shit, how do you want him to respond? Stand together or perish one by one.
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Deplorable Me
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PS: This has to start somewhere. One step at a time.
Deplorable Me
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Google Maps will bring up Hamburg Rod and Gun Club, south end of Hamburg.
Marine Cpl
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They must have been reading our forums and decided to run with this paper tiger to appease the gullible here in NY by specifically quoting the Unsafe Act in this fruitless bill that they know will never pass. They may be able to fool some of you. Not me.
spat
.950 JDJ
The only legislation they need is a budget appropriation for the DOJ to establish an office SPECIFICALLY to go after states who violate the 2A IMHO.....
Get half a dozen DOJ lawyers who's full time job is defending the 2A, and give them a budget for depositions and such and we'd be set....
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
I've got it! Something like a "Constitutional Amendment" protecting our right to keep and bear arms.
Sarcasm aside. Can't be there, good luck to those involved!
Tinman
.308 Win
My personal opinion is that is not going to do anything. It only applies to rifles and shotguns according to the news this morning. It is an absolute joke.
ImpeachObama
9mm
I didn't see pistols mentioned.
Jsmegs77
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A Federal solution to SAFE will do nothing. We already have a Federal statute, in the Second Amendment. It is not enforced federally, and with the current trend of states just doing what they want (see SAFE, several states non-cooperation with ICE, and so on), I suspect that, like Cuomo's recent signing of something allowing rifle hunting, this is a bone thrown to the gun owners prior to election season.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
A daunting task, taking on those that thwart the constitution. Like they say when faced with eating the elephant, start with one bite at a time.
Robin
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's why we keep losing. We want to swallow the whole elephant in one gulp.
The left are master tacticians. They throw small pieces of legislation at the wall to see what sticks. We don't.
You have people on here who are against the Reciprocity Bill because they want Constitutional Carry.
Depick
.308 Win
It may not lead to anything but at the least it's a step in the right direction.
Depick
.308 Win
He is in the right position to Put things in motion
fartgamer
.223 Rem
When pigs fly. John McCain won't allow it.
fartgamer
.223 Rem
They believed those phony lawyers who promised the world.
Well, not that I think it has any real chance of going anywhere, but I will do my part. I'm taking off work at 2:30 and heading over there to show my support. I'll see those of you who make it there.
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