congress-blocks-amendment- to stop-integration- of us-and-Israeli-militaries

[spat]

Well buddy, you have only 1 or 2 Israel first fanatics that seem to support what Your saying too.

My evidence outweighs your opinions

You haven't presented any evidence.

Just a stream of articles where people don't like the idea.

None of them actually support your claim that we're integrating the US and Isreali military in an unprecedented way.

The closest that you've come is that we're moving the procurement of military hardware from the leftist state state department into the DOD.

Imagine that, letting the department of defense decide who buys what military hardware instead of the guys who were running USAID.

 

[DoD1776]

Well buddy, you have only 1 or 2 Israel first fanatics that seem to support what Your saying too.

My evidence outweighs your opinions

Spat likes to say that you don’t provide evidence when you do. He hates facts.

 

[holdover]

You haven't presented any evidence.

Get the fuck out of here. I posted the fucking bill itself!!! what do you think all these people in congress and the senate are talking about? they are talking about the fucking bill. Just fucking stop it already.

 

[holdover]

Spat likes to say that you don’t provide evidence when you do. He hates facts.

Thank you. Hes the one posting just his opinions . the guy seems to hate America

 

[DoD1776]

Thank you. Hes the one posting just his opinions . the guy seems to hate America

A lot of them are. They act like they’re patriots because they post Trump memes.

 

[spat]

Get the fuck out of here. I posted the fucking bill itself!!! what do you think all these people in congress and the senate are talking about? they are talking about the fucking bill. Just fucking stop it already.

Yes, you posted the bill, and no where in there does it "integrate the US and Isreali military".

That statement is ridiculous hyperbole and you beclown yourself every time you try to make it.

Certainly there is debate about the bill in congress, half of congress hates Isreal and would prefer we treat them like lepers. But that doesn't mean moving the approval for sales military equipment from the department of state to the department of defense is "integrating our militaries".

 

[spat]

Spat likes to say that you don’t provide evidence when you do. He hates facts.

You clearly couldn't identify actual evidence if it slapped you in the face.

You seem to confuse baseless claims for evidence just because you like the guy making the claims.

Bernie Sanders saying "we're integrating our military with Isreal" isn't evidence of anything other than Bernie's mental illness.

What would actual evidence of that integration look like ? Maybe a chart showing how the two completely independent chains of command would merge. That would be a good start.

So, when this supposed integration happens, who reports to who in which military ?

 

[Zerex]

In a free and pluralistic society, including this forum, people are entitled to their opinions, as this is NOT a neo Nazi/ Stormfront, anti semitic, anti Israel forum, but just the opposite.

We like guns

Many members support Israel but hate to confront the haters.

No one here has this portrait hanging in their homes...........no one.

 

[FP1201]

Congress Blocks Amendment To Stop Integration of U.S. And Israeli Militaries <!-- --> | ZeroHedge

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A decision from Congress blocking a bipartisan amendment introduced by representatives Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna that would have removed the controversial provision from the National Defense Authorization Act (”NDAA”) integrating the U.S. and Israeli militaries answered that lingering question by showing that unfettered support for Israel remains business as usual in Washington, D.C., despite any empty political posturing to the contrary.

The amendment introduced by Massie and Khanna sought to remove Section 219 (formerly Section 224) from this year’s NDAA. That provision is poised to establish a United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative which expands cooperation between the two nations in a manner that opponents have raised criticisms about over how it effectively integrates their two militaries.

When discussing the provision, Massie succinctly summarized that position felt by U.S. citizens, stating, “If Section 219 is signed into law, the American people should see it as Congress fully capitulating our nation’s autonomy to foreign influence.”

It's become my perhaps sophomoric position to dismiss with extreme prejudice ANYTHING democrats propose or support, Their History and current platform position further reinforce my dismissal of their plans and desires.
FWIWL The US under NATO Training requirements has for decades cross-trained Soldiers from many different Countries under the premise that WE might have to fight for or with those Countries at some point...nothing new here, nor nefarious.

The amendment introduced by Massie and Khanna sought to remove Section 219 (formerly Section 224) from this year’s NDAA. That provision is poised to establish a United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative which expands cooperation between the two nations in a manner that opponents have raised criticisms about over how it effectively integrates their two militaries. In the wake of public support in the U.S. declining to record lows, the revelation of Section 219 has been met with vitriol from U.S. taxpayers who have come to view Israel as a pariah on the world stage, a stark departure from the long-standing sentiment inculcated into the American public that the country serves as its greatest ally. Representatives Massie and Khanna harnessed that shifting sentiment by drafting an amendment to the NDAA that would have removed Section 219 from the text of the proposed legislation, only to have their effort blocked by the House Rules Committee after it chose to exclude it from a list of amendments made in order. In doing so, the committee ensured the amendment would not receive any debate or a recorded vote on the House floor.

In addition to excluding the amendment put forward by Massie and Khanna, the House Rules Committee also excluded another introduced by Democratic representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that sought to rein in U.S. arms sales to Israel. The amendment introduced by Ocasio-Cortez would have imposed conditions for offensive and defensive military aid to Israel. Those conditions would have required U.S. foreign military aid to comply with international law by banning the transfer of weapons to countries blocking U.S. or United Nations' humanitarian aid to civilians.

The House Rules Committee utilized this mechanism to preserve Section 219 of the NDAA in the face of widespread bipartisan condemnation of the provision. When announcing his intent to offer an amendment striking the provision from the NDAA, Massie highlighted how its passage would further undermine U.S. sovereignty. Massie’s position was echoed across the aisle by Khanna, who ultimately introduced the amendment, which was co-sponsored by other Democratic representatives Jim McGovern, Jesús G. García, and Rashida Tlaib. Their bipartisan effort, though blocked, reflected the popular will of the American people who reached out to lawmakers from both parties to compel them to remove Section 219 from the NDAA after the once-obscure provision fell into the spotlight over the discourse surrounding the proposed legislation. When discussing the provision, Massie succinctly summarized that position felt by U.S. citizens, stating, “If Section 219 is signed into law, the American people should see it as Congress fully capitulating our nation’s autonomy to foreign influence.”

 

[DoD1776]

In a free and pluralistic society, including this forum, people are entitled to their opinions, as this is NOT a neo Nazi/ Stormfront, anti semitic, anti Israel forum, but just the opposite.

We like guns

Many members support Israel but hate to confront the haters.

No one here has this portrait hanging in their homes...........no one.

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Not everyone here is Zionist garbage that puts a foreign country before their own. Atleast Gobbels was a nationalist and actually cared about his people.

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[holdover]

Yes, you posted the bill, and no where in there does it "integrate the US and Isreali military".

That statement is ridiculous hyperbole and you beclown yourself every time you try to make it.

Certainly there is debate about the bill in congress, half of congress hates Isreal and would prefer we treat them like lepers. But that doesn't mean moving the approval for sales military equipment from the department of state to the department of defense is "integrating our militaries".

Everyone e is full of shit but you. Got it

 

[holdover]

You clearly couldn't identify actual evidence if it slapped you in the face.

You seem to confuse baseless claims for evidence just because you like the guy making the claims.

Bernie Sanders saying "we're integrating our military with Isreal" isn't evidence of anything other than Bernie's mental illness.

What would actual evidence of that integration look like ? Maybe a chart showing how the two completely independent chains of command would merge. That would be a good start.

So, when this supposed integration happens, who reports to who in which military ?

Go back to israel with your stupidity. My lord

 

[Robin]

Not everyone here is Zionist garbage that puts a foreign country before their own. Atleast Gobbels was a nationalist and actually cared about his people.

Really, my, my, a 'Gobbles' fan. And he was a caring man, my, my? Thanks a lot, my stupidity meter just broke a spring!
Robin

 

[tirwin1]

Atleast Gobbels was a nationalist and actually cared about his people.

What an interesting thing to say. That guy hitler was misunderstood also, amirite......

 

[Zerex]

"HIS PEOPLE"?/
What groups do you exclude from "his people" here?.................. jews, Poles, Irish, Columbians, Puerto Ricans, the French, Ukranians? Kenyans, Ugandans, Egyptians, Iranians to name a few.

I See...................................

 

[holdover]

In a free and pluralistic society, including this forum, people are entitled to their opinions, as this is NOT a neo Nazi/ Stormfront, anti semitic, anti Israel forum, but just the opposite.

We like guns

Many members support Israel but hate to confront the haters.

No one here has this portrait hanging in their homes...........no one.

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you dont have to be a card carrying NAZI to dislike the goverment in Israel , Ya know. Im not even sure why the NAZI's disliked them so much , havent heard a whole lot about it . to me its a political problem not a racial or religious one . For the US I mean

 

[holdover]

"HIS PEOPLE"?/
What groups do you exclude from "his people" here?.................. jews, Poles, Irish, Columbians, Puerto Ricans, the French, Ukranians? Kenyans, Ugandans, Egyptians, Iranians to name a few.

I See...................................

I think he was referring to the German people at that time , I would guess

 

[Zerex]

Domestically it all goes back to the Depression of the 1930's, and blaming Jewish bankers, jewelers and businessmen who survived the economic disaster.

Hitler flourished because of the depression, and said the jews lost WWI for Germany......and many Americans had joined the American Bund, because of this built up economic hatred, that is mindlessly generational today.

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