Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
When cuomo says if you don’t pass this I won’t sign the budget then laws/bills whatever are attached to the budget.
Cuomo Planning Major move against gun owners starting next week
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This is how we got the Mario Cuomo Bridge.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
We got that because Bill Larkin was a senile old fool who should have been thrown out of the Senate a dozen years ago.
True as that may be, when you think it can't get any worse..it can. Skoufis wins Larkin's Senate seat
The progs targeted and filled his seat with ease. :sigh:
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Skoufis won because the GOP sat around and did nothing while the Democrats enrolled people in the party. What used to be a GOP majority district turned Democrat by like 13-15K.
No one is kicking in your front door to take your rifle. To do so would be a public relations disaster and would draw unwanted attention and additional legal challenges from Pro-2nd Amendment organizations that actually care, unlike the NRA and NYSRPA.
Here's what I believe we will get:
* Red Flag laws
* Ammo purchase card/background check for ammo purchases similar to what they have in Ct. and Mass.
* Actual enforcement by Revenuers (NYSP) of the permit registration requirement
* Expanded waiting periods for all firearms purchases
* Semi-Automatic long gun registration
* Microstamping
Social media law will die on the vine because leftists don't want to open the door to others seeing what THEY post.
Thank NYS Fudds for all this. If they cared about ALL firearms owners and not just those who shoot deer, waterfowl, and the clay shooting sports we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.
Maybe the Tresmond Law Firm will come to our rescue seeing they've been "pitching their wares" on WYSL and at GOA NY meetings in the Rochester suburb of Henrietta as of late. (LOL).
The DEMS have run the table because the NYSGOP is a dumpster fire of incompetence thanks to Ed Cox. Better believe we're going to get greased and there will be absolutely NOTHING that can stop them.
Here's what I believe we will get:
* Red Flag laws
* Ammo purchase card/background check for ammo purchases similar to what they have in Ct. and Mass.
* Actual enforcement by Revenuers (NYSP) of the permit registration requirement
* Expanded waiting periods for all firearms purchases
* Semi-Automatic long gun registration
* Microstamping
Social media law will die on the vine because leftists don't want to open the door to others seeing what THEY post.
Thank NYS Fudds for all this. If they cared about ALL firearms owners and not just those who shoot deer, waterfowl, and the clay shooting sports we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.
Maybe the Tresmond Law Firm will come to our rescue seeing they've been "pitching their wares" on WYSL and at GOA NY meetings in the Rochester suburb of Henrietta as of late. (LOL).
The DEMS have run the table because the NYSGOP is a dumpster fire of incompetence thanks to Ed Cox. Better believe we're going to get greased and there will be absolutely NOTHING that can stop them.
Why not just buy guns? I never understood this buy lowers thing. Want a gun, buy the fucking thing!
80% lowers have no paperwork for anyone to trace. What they don't know about, they can't take away from you. Buy them with a money order and there's no record at all of you having them.
GTN
.308 Win
Yeah I’ve never understood this either. Unless it’s a 80% you still have a paper trail of that loser serial number back to you. What if they make buying part kits for AR’s illegal. Then you have a bunch of lowers with nothing in them making it a chunk of metal
I do believe we're going to see ammunition restrictions in the form of a buyer's card, maybe with the calibers you can buy listed. [ Buying a new caliber ? What gun did you buy and from whom ? Prove it. ] That will give them a list of most of what you own, if not at least a good idea of what you own. I think the number of rounds you buy will be regulated and tracked as well. [ Mr Jones bought 3400 rounds of ammo last month....I wonder what he's doing with all that. Let's send a couple boys over to politely ask him.....] Microstamping is a possibility, even though it will never actually work. Remember COBIS ? The intention isn't really to put an identifying mark on the primer, as much as it is to limit the guns ELIGABLE TO BE SOLD in the State. Also expect some new tax on ammo to offset all the medical costs associated with guns. You know, it's the children they're concerned about.
Justincase
.308 Win
If that's the case, then get what you can now before it ain't on the approved list
Justincase
.308 Win
For me it comes down to money. Buying a few $60 - $130 lowers is much more doable than buying the $1500 - $2500 guns I'd eventually like them to become.
"Red flag" laws are a given. Teachers, doctors, grocery store employees, garbagemen, postal workers, EVERYONE will be able to call some hotline and say that you are nuts and the NYSP will come "ask you a few questions".... another 'fear of being reported' scheme to make gun ownership and use less appealing.
Don't be too surprised to see the NYSP hanging around your gun club, either. Especially the cars that have license plate readers on them..... they'll create their own list of people to watch.
Don't be too surprised to see the NYSP hanging around your gun club, either. Especially the cars that have license plate readers on them..... they'll create their own list of people to watch.
Modean
.223 Rem
Building an AR is satisfying, and you get to build exactly what you want.
I get that, have done it myself. Why the stress buying because of possible new laws. Want one, two or three? Buy them. To allow the State to dictate ones purchases is crazy!
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
You mean like in the old days with secret police, relatives encouraged to turn in relatives and children raised to be spies for the state?
YES, IN FACT , THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
It sure is. The criminals surely don't. Only us second class law abiding citizens.
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Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Saw this on my feed from Bauerle:
Bauerle and Bellavia
1 hr ·
I can vouch for the person who sent this. I do not know if the information is correct. Posting this due to a request:
"-Info that I have leaked from NYSP is as follows:
Cuomo is going to make his move against gun owners sometime next week in the legislature.
Supposedly there is funding in the budget for 100 NYSP investigators who will not report to NYSP, but directly to Cuomo.
They will be used exclusively on gun issues.
Cuomo intends to use a heavy hand on gun owners across the state.
They have Troopers working in a professional standards and discipline unit looking at social media accounts of all uniformed troopers and investigators to identify people who disagree with Cuomo's attacks on gun ownership.
They intend to pull in the reins on any dissension in the ranks, due to the vast majority of Troopers who think Cuomo's laws are nonsense and unconstitutional.
The word is that Cuomo is going to order door to door operations to go after gun owners.
He plans on jamming thru his gun laws starting next week and pushing hard against anyone who owns firearms.
If I hear anymore, I will pass it along.
Large meeting scheduled next Wednesday evening, 1-16-19 7pm in Lackawanna at the Weber VFW Post 898 2909 South Park Ave. 3 blocks south of the OLV Basilica.
Sheriff Tim Howard will be speaking on the matter.
If I hear any other info, I will pass it along. There is a lot of trouble coming for NYS gun owners from Cuomo."
Bauerle and Bellavia
1 hr ·
I can vouch for the person who sent this. I do not know if the information is correct. Posting this due to a request:
"-Info that I have leaked from NYSP is as follows:
Cuomo is going to make his move against gun owners sometime next week in the legislature.
Supposedly there is funding in the budget for 100 NYSP investigators who will not report to NYSP, but directly to Cuomo.
They will be used exclusively on gun issues.
Cuomo intends to use a heavy hand on gun owners across the state.
They have Troopers working in a professional standards and discipline unit looking at social media accounts of all uniformed troopers and investigators to identify people who disagree with Cuomo's attacks on gun ownership.
They intend to pull in the reins on any dissension in the ranks, due to the vast majority of Troopers who think Cuomo's laws are nonsense and unconstitutional.
The word is that Cuomo is going to order door to door operations to go after gun owners.
He plans on jamming thru his gun laws starting next week and pushing hard against anyone who owns firearms.
If I hear anymore, I will pass it along.
Large meeting scheduled next Wednesday evening, 1-16-19 7pm in Lackawanna at the Weber VFW Post 898 2909 South Park Ave. 3 blocks south of the OLV Basilica.
Sheriff Tim Howard will be speaking on the matter.
If I hear any other info, I will pass it along. There is a lot of trouble coming for NYS gun owners from Cuomo."
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Go after us for what? Legally owned property? Just because we are gun owners he's going to send cops after us? No way that doesn't start some serious problems both legally as well as on the ground. I also don't see Troopers liking Cuomo's move against them. I think that will cause more dissension and maybe some silent resistance if nothing else.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Like he even gives a crap, one crap.
Robin
Robin
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
No clue. I just posted what came across my feed. YMMV.
While I will listen to the show from time to time, I will say that I do hold too much as to what Bauerle has to say most of the times. He is a bit fried. He thinks he is more important than he really is. He claims to personally know this guy and that guy and this other really important guy. I can say on one occasion, he stated that he knew "this" guy really, really well; just so happens that I really do know this guy, when I asked him about Bauerle, he said besides knowing he is on the radio, he never heard of him, never met him.
He lives in his own little world.
As for the NYSP thing, I do not know one way or another, but I put nothing past him. I know a few Troopers and they claim they know nothing.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
10 days? EXCELLENT!
That'll be a heck of an improvement over what we've got in Westchester now.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
My guess, if there is any validity to what this dude is saying, is that the "door to door" is about permit holders who fail to re-certify.
There is absolutely no legal reason to be going door to door of lawful gun owners. At minimum it's harassment. Gonna be a lot of lawsuits. It just might be possible Cuomo will get in WAY over his head with all this.
GTN
.308 Win
Probably but he’ll never get in trouble for it
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Move a couple miles north.
My last was 12 days, three pistols, and included a holiday weekend.
I know a great realtor if you need one.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I have no problem of buying complete guns if I had the cash, but the Left is gaining more and more control and influence whether any of us like to admit it or not. This AWB craze is gaining traction. Just look at the new proposed legislation....banning 80% lowers and parts kits. You buy a rifle, it has a paper trail via serial numbers. You buy stripped lowers, same. Let's look forward in the future to even more Leftist control. You think for a minute they wont force mandatory buy backs or turn ins? Maybe they wont go house to house, yet, but they'll find a way to connect NICS purchases to driver's licenses and start locking people up that refuse to turn in their MSRs after getting pulled over.
I used to have faith that our Constitution actually meant something to more than Conservatives. The Leftists will do everything in their power to strip it down to what they feel we need.
That's why I said 'undocumented" lowers....80%ers. While you're at it, buy a few parts kits. They're cheap too. If not, piecemeal the parts kits together.
Why continue buying something that's most likely going to be banned because it has a serial number. No way they'll let a grandfather clause in the text.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Forgive my ignorance, but are FTF long gun purchases GTG without NICS? I honestly never payed any attention to that because I never thought of making out of state purchases other than ammo.