Cuomo's Depopulation War On Upstate NY

[Madmallard]

Since the start of the decade, a million people have moved out of New York.

For Andrew Cuomo, that’s not a problem, that’s a victory.

It has solidified his party’s hold on power, and it has reshaped the state and its culture in a fashion more congenial to his interests and agenda.

LONSBERRY: Cuomo's Depopulation War On Upstate NY | Bob Lonsberry | NewsRadio WHAM 1180

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Why not? New York was the last to sign the Declaration of Independence so we have a history of this shit. Looks like the lights are going out.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Since the start of the decade, a million people have moved out of New York.

For Andrew Cuomo, that’s not a problem, that’s a victory.

It has solidified his party’s hold on power, and it has reshaped the state and its culture in a fashion more congenial to his interests and agenda.

The subject comes up because of new Census Bureau numbers which show, yet again, that more people decide to move out of New York than any other state in the nation. Those move outs are so numerous that they outstrip population growth and leave the state with fewer total people.

From the summer of 2017 to the summer of 2018, New York had a net loss in population of more than 48,000. Illinois, another Democrat state, was the second-most abandoned state, with 45,000 net reduction in population. Of the seven other states which had a net loss of population – all but one of them Democrat states – the total number of people moving out of them all combined was just under 34,000.

That means that, if you set aside Illinois, New York lost more residents than all the other losing states combined. If you don’t set aside Illinois, more than 40 percent of all the net population loss in America took place in New York.

Under Andrew Cuomo.

And that’s a win for him.

Because almost all of New York’s net population loss took place upstate, where values and party enrollment are in conflict with the governor and his progressive agenda.

Forty-two of New York’s 50 upstate counties have had a net loss of population in the last year. All of them were counties that voted against Andrew Cuomo in the recent gubernatorial election.

And those upstate counties have been losing population, prosperity and pull for years on end.

Even in the years when birthrate and high immigration rates put New York as a net-positive state, most upstate counties were net loss. In recent years, that loss has grown to such an extent that it out tallies the growth from birth and immigration.

There is a decade-long depopulation of upstate New York underway, and it is hard to conclude that that is anything other than a policy objective of Andrew Cuomo. In this dramatically bifurcated state, Cuomo’s efforts to make New York – in his words – “the progressive capital of the nation” require a weakening and suppression of conservative, rural and Republican upstate.

So he declared war.

He allowed the state’s suffocating taxes, regulations and land-control rules to work like a spreading cancer against the financial interests of rural upstate counties. He harassed upstate culture with measures like Common Core and the Safe Act, and delayed and ultimately destroyed the potential for prosperity offered by fracking.

Further, his upstate economic-development measures have been gambling, which flopped; yogurt, which flopped and has put the state’s dairy industry in critical condition; and microbreweries,which are subsidized and about to be marginalized by legalized marijuana.

His help has invariably hurt.

And that’s not an accident.

That’s a plan. That’s a war.

Andrew Cuomo is and has been at war with that part of New York which disagrees with him and didn’t politically support either him or his father.

It’s a personal grudge for him that pays off for his party. As the Democrats celebrate their now-complete control on all parts of New York government, they should realize that they owe that to the fact that the overwhelming majority of the million New Yorkers who fled were Republicans. The growth of Democrat power in formerly conservative areas is significantly a factor of Republicans – or their children – moving away.

The depopulation of upstate solidifies Democrat control of New York and its seats in the federal Congress. It also advances the disdain urban progressives feel for the rural culture and people who predominate over the vast geographic stretches of upstate.

New York Democrats have shown for decades their attitude toward the interests and governance of their upstate neighbors by the oppressive policies imposed on the Adirondacks. The Andrew Cuomo era is merely a step in the process of putting all of upstate in that same colonial basket.

The intolerance of this governor for people who are different from him has hardened into policy. When he said “there is no room in this state” for people he called “extreme conservatives” – people who differed with him on abortion and gun control – he wasn’t using a figure of speech. He was expressing a policy priority of his administration.

And these Census Bureau numbers prove it.

In the governor’s mansion, news that New York has shrunk yet again is neither a surprise nor a disappointment.

It is a success.

The proof of a plan coming together.

What upstaters have to decide is are they going to continue to let themselves be chased away, or are they going to stand and fight.

LONSBERRY: Cuomo's Depopulation War On Upstate NY | Bob Lonsberry | NewsRadio WHAM 1180

I gave it my all in upstate NY for over 60 years, to the point where I could no longer survive economically as the state's deep manufacturing economy has exited steadily over the years.

I am now in NC, able to once again make a living, - and I am finding a great many of my former customers are now here as well.

It is criminal what Albany has done. I miss my home, family, friends, and business associates tremendously. But I am never moving back. FUAC!

 

[oc shooter]

not for me fight to the very end

 

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[Jem45472]

I gave it my all in upstate NY for over 60 years, to the point where I could no longer survive economically as the state's deep manufacturing economy has exited steadily over the years.

I am now in NC, able to once again make a living, - and I am finding a great many of my former customers are now here as well.

It is criminal what Albany has done. I miss my home, family, friends, and business associates tremendously. But I am never moving back. FUAC!

Enjoy while you can. Where do you think all the new Yorkers are going. I'll give you a guess.

 

[MuttCat]

I just read the article this morning. It hurts to see the truth. FUAC and all the progressive/regressivism. My wife and I will enjoy our home and retirement for a couple of years more, then we too are gone.

 

[Blimey]

That article seems about right. I think the gov is perfectly fine with this. It's just the rednecks who are leaving.

 

[ProgSpear]

The only good news is soon we can claim oppressed minority status and get state aid. [/sarc]

 

[Podmonkey]

The entire country is migrating along ideological lines. The left are concentrating in the cities. Where the will be easier to bomb.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

He warned US years ago..if you're pro 2nd amendment,anti gay, anti abortion; you don't belong in NY

 

[Bigfoot]

"What upstaters have to decide is are they going to continue to let themselves be chased away, or are they going to stand and fight."



How do you make a stand and fight back when you're laying face down unconscious and dying?
Because that is where conservatives are at in this state.

I would love to here an answer to that question. I want to be proven wrong, I really do.
Because even when I do move out of NYS there will still be people here that I care about and love.
So I do hope that this state can be turned around but I don't think that it is possible at this point.
Especially since more and more conservatives are moving out over time.


And I hate the terms (run) away or (chased) away like the people that have left NYS are cowards.
For me and many others it's more of (looking) for a better quality of life... Not running away like a little bitch.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Potentially the vote is out there to get rid of the prick but enough don't register or care to vote. It's a sickness with blue collar middle income people." IF it doesn't affect me directly, I don't care".....Ban black guns but leave my shotgun alone...." I can live with one box of ammo for a year" "why does a person need a semi auto"...."that's what the police are paid for"....blah...blah...blah. If we organized,protested and marched one fourth the time minorities do....there would be no safe act to deal with. They have their $hit together.

 

[Jackalope]

I consider leaving the State as a strategic retreat. I plan on keeping some property in the State, but I refuse to live under imbecilic laws that the various urban asshole politicians inflict upon "free" citizens. Maybe when the State overthrows these "DemocRats I'll consider having a summer home here, but until Cuomo and his minions are gone, I'll enjoy freedom on the delightful Cumberland Plateau in Tennessee.

 

[Jmac]

We need another Boston Tea Party in NYS

 

[Rocpo]

As soon as I'm eligible to retire I'm gone.

Screw nys and FUAC

 

[holdover]

We need another Boston Tea Party in NYS

We need a George Washington

 

[Saltwater60]

For sure this is on purpose. He said it years ago conservatives aren’t welcome in NYS. He has chased us out of NYS. Now he will replace them with immigrants that either dont vote or will vote liberal. That’s the plan folks.

 

[carpediem]

He and the city liberals crave the evacuation of upstate. Then they become the new " landed gentry" owning the properties inhabited by the destitute collecting their rents from the government. These will be combined with the super wealthy liberal actors and their ilk and all of them will feed like vampires off the lifeblood of the few left behind, unable to leave, through massive taxation. They also need people to work the service industry so they can hit the drive thrus of upstate, and they know many will need jobs once the good paying jobs are gone. Meanwhile, the governor and his liberal cohorts will buy up the choice real estate and old homes and farms and live like English nobility.

 

[S&W Fan]

I was talking to my adult children and their wives and husbands about this over our Christmas Eve gathering. Every one of them to a person are will to follow me and the Mrs. south when we retire in a few years. Infact, they may All be going south first, in which case we will be visiting often to look around and secure some property before we retire.

 

[Curmudgeon]

We need another Boston Tea Party in NYS

We need a George Washington

Grab your yellow vests and your balls. I dont think it's time yet, but in a few short years it's likely.

 

[1075tech]

It's not just Upstate. I read an article the other day that NYC is losing 100 people per day. Hopefully, one of them will want to move up to "the country" and buy my house.