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New Jersey Resident Turn Zero Magazines In Despite Ban

 

[Jmac00]

the citizens of the northeast need to start spreading the word about Jury Nullification. If a person gets arrested for this bullshit, all it takes is ONE JURER to refuse to convict, you get a hung jury and the charges get tossed. OR, better, the just finds the defendent not guilty, regardless of the judges orders

 

[holdover]

Thanks to a December 5 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, New Jersey’s ban on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds took effect on December 10. By that date, all owners of heretofore legal “large capacity magazines” (LCMs) were required to surrender them to police, render them inoperable, modify them so they cannot hold more than 10 rounds, or sell them to authorized owners. Those who failed to do so are guilty of a fourth-degree felony, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 and up to 18 months in prison.



Ex Post Facto
Definition
Latin for "from a thing done afterward."

Overview
Ex post facto is most typically used to refer to a criminal statute that punishes actions retroactively, thereby criminalizing conduct that was legal when originally performed. Two clauses in the United States Constitution prohibit ex post facto laws:

1. Art 1, § 9
   1. This prohibits Congress from passing any laws which apply ex post facto.
2. Art. 1 § 10.
   1. This prohibits the states from passing any laws which apply ex post facto.

Ex Post Facto

Tell them to go suck a bag of dicks NJ.

 

[Shadow2]

Is it not amazing that nobody has brought Ex post facto up in a single suite. It was the reason why we had pre and post ban items the government could not just ban shit. Why in the F would a state be allowed too.

Thanks to a December 5 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, New Jersey’s ban on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds took effect on December 10. By that date, all owners of heretofore legal “large capacity magazines” (LCMs) were required to surrender them to police, render them inoperable, modify them so they cannot hold more than 10 rounds, or sell them to authorized owners. Those who failed to do so are guilty of a fourth-degree felony, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 and up to 18 months in prison.



Ex Post Facto
Definition
Latin for "from a thing done afterward."

Overview
Ex post facto is most typically used to refer to a criminal statute that punishes actions retroactively, thereby criminalizing conduct that was legal when originally performed. Two clauses in the United States Constitution prohibit ex post facto laws:

1. Art 1, § 9
   1. This prohibits Congress from passing any laws which apply ex post facto.
2. Art. 1 § 10.
   1. This prohibits the states from passing any laws which apply ex post facto.

Ex Post Facto

Tell them to go suck a bag of dicks NJ.

 

[Acer-m14]

the citizens of the northeast need to start spreading the word about Jury Nullification. If a person gets arrested for this bullshit, all it takes is ONE JURER to refuse to convict, you get a hung jury and the charges get tossed. OR, better, the just finds the defendent not guilty, regardless of the judges orders

just keep your lips shut on jury selection for Jury Nullification ...

 

[Jmac00]

just keep your lips shut on jury selection for Jury Nullification ...

exactly, the first order of business is to get on the jury, jump through the hoops and when it comes time to deliberations, simply refuse to convict, dispite any judicial orders.


my bet is, 99% of people caught with a banned magazine will never see a court room. Madatory sentencing will preclude a trial, a prosecutor will offer a plea deal that will be to good to pass up. 5 years Propation, loss of all fire arms and never be allowed to own a firearm ever again OR a $10,000 fine and 18 months in jail. Every single person caught will go with the plea, period. Unless the person caught is convinced a jury will use nullification to have the charges thrown out

 

[Truebeliever]

Thanks to a December 5 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, New Jersey’s ban on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds took effect on December 10. By that date, all owners of heretofore legal “large capacity magazines” (LCMs) were required to surrender them to police, render them inoperable, modify them so they cannot hold more than 10 rounds, or sell them to authorized owners. Those who failed to do so are guilty of a fourth-degree felony, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 and up to 18 months in prison.



Ex Post Facto
Definition
Latin for "from a thing done afterward."

Overview
Ex post facto is most typically used to refer to a criminal statute that punishes actions retroactively, thereby criminalizing conduct that was legal when originally performed. Two clauses in the United States Constitution prohibit ex post facto laws:

1. Art 1, § 9
   1. This prohibits Congress from passing any laws which apply ex post facto.
2. Art. 1 § 10.
   1. This prohibits the states from passing any laws which apply ex post facto.

Ex Post Facto

Tell them to go suck a bag of dicks NJ.

Ex post facto was brought up in the domestic violence prohibition.

The ruling was that it is the “current “ possession by them is the crime. So if you possessed the mag before the new law they couldn’t go after you but after they can

 

[holdover]

""the “current “ possession by them is the crime""

So how is that ruling Constitutional? Im not seeing the grand concept here.

You purchased a Thing legally, You were in possession of that thing for years , but now if your in possession of the previously legal thing you can be arrested.

That pretty much sums up what expost facto means , The intent, goes against everything the founders told us about the citizenry holding arms.