kev74
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So... You have proof Powell is a liar?
I'd love to see it. She has a pretty stellar reputation, and every allegation she has made in defense of General Flynn has wound up being true.
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I'd love to see it. She has a pretty stellar reputation, and every allegation she has made in defense of General Flynn has wound up being true.
livingston
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I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
By John Zmirak Published on November 19, 2020 • 479 Comments
John Zmirak
Back in 2014, I worked freelance for a public relations firm in New York City. It was there that I met an unusual woman. I didn’t know many lawyers or Texans, but I knew better than to chalk up her qualities to either her profession or her home. It’s rare that I encounter someone who I’m afraid to argue with, because of her sheer brain power and towering personal rectitude. But this was such a person.
This woman had quite a career behind her. An evangelical Christian, she’d been a federal prosecutor — and quit, outraged at the corruption she saw among her colleagues. She did more than quit. Horrified by prosecutors hiding exculpatory evidence and targeting the innocent because of their personal politics, she became a defense attorney, to help people fight the feds.
She Gave Up Everything to Expose Abusive Prosecutors
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By John Zmirak Published on November 19, 2020 • 479 Comments
John Zmirak
Back in 2014, I worked freelance for a public relations firm in New York City. It was there that I met an unusual woman. I didn’t know many lawyers or Texans, but I knew better than to chalk up her qualities to either her profession or her home. It’s rare that I encounter someone who I’m afraid to argue with, because of her sheer brain power and towering personal rectitude. But this was such a person.
This woman had quite a career behind her. An evangelical Christian, she’d been a federal prosecutor — and quit, outraged at the corruption she saw among her colleagues. She did more than quit. Horrified by prosecutors hiding exculpatory evidence and targeting the innocent because of their personal politics, she became a defense attorney, to help people fight the feds.
She Gave Up Everything to Expose Abusive Prosecutors
I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth | The Stream
Sidney Powell of Trump's team has devoted her life to exposing corrupt prosecutors & defending the innocent. She's not libeling Dominion now.
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JaguarJaguarGolf
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I'd hate to have the same blood type as a sickly child of a Party official.
A lot of disappeared christians with missing organs agree
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Either way you slice it living under the thumb of oppression should be left to the individual not mandated by a few corrupt and communist loonies of the far left !
spat
.950 JDJ
The government wants us to accept the results of the election.
The onus is on them to demonstrate that it is reliably conducted.
In essence they are selling us the results and if they want us to buy, they need to demonstrate that it is a trustworthy product.
Right now many of us trust them to do this honestly about as much as we trust the Nigerian prince to double our investment. If they want my money (or allegiance) they need to provide better assurances than "trust me".
Sidney Powell is a Warrior! I can see it. Good to have her in this fight!I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
By John Zmirak Published on November 19, 2020 • 479 Comments
John Zmirak
Back in 2014, I worked freelance for a public relations firm in New York City. It was there that I met an unusual woman. I didn’t know many lawyers or Texans, but I knew better than to chalk up her qualities to either her profession or her home. It’s rare that I encounter someone who I’m afraid to argue with, because of her sheer brain power and towering personal rectitude. But this was such a person.
This woman had quite a career behind her. An evangelical Christian, she’d been a federal prosecutor — and quit, outraged at the corruption she saw among her colleagues. She did more than quit. Horrified by prosecutors hiding exculpatory evidence and targeting the innocent because of their personal politics, she became a defense attorney, to help people fight the feds.
She Gave Up Everything to Expose Abusive Prosecutors
I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth | The Stream
Sidney Powell of Trump's team has devoted her life to exposing corrupt prosecutors & defending the innocent. She's not libeling Dominion now.
kev74
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I think a lot of people forget, or maybe don't realize, that there are two separate games going on - both in the Trump and Biden camps - which will lead to one of them becoming president. The legal fight takes place at this point in court rooms. This is what really matters and this is where the evidence matters.
The other fight - for public support - is totally different and is likely not going to run parallel to the legal fight. This fight is a PR campaign. In this fight, they can exaggerate, mislead, obfuscate and lead us down a path that doesn't lead to legal victory but rather get public support for the candidate. Hopefully for the purpose of winning the election, and maybe for laying groundwork for things to come later.
So far, I believe everything Trump's team has said, every allegation they have made. I don't however think every fact and allegation they have made in public will be used in their court fights and filings and arguments. To think either side is going to try their legal case in public in front of the media -a hostile media in Trump's case - is ignorant.
For me at this point, this is nothing more than a reality show. I've got my favorite and I hope he wins, but there's not much I can do to affect the outcome. So I might as well follow along and enjoy the show.
The other fight - for public support - is totally different and is likely not going to run parallel to the legal fight. This fight is a PR campaign. In this fight, they can exaggerate, mislead, obfuscate and lead us down a path that doesn't lead to legal victory but rather get public support for the candidate. Hopefully for the purpose of winning the election, and maybe for laying groundwork for things to come later.
So far, I believe everything Trump's team has said, every allegation they have made. I don't however think every fact and allegation they have made in public will be used in their court fights and filings and arguments. To think either side is going to try their legal case in public in front of the media -a hostile media in Trump's case - is ignorant.
For me at this point, this is nothing more than a reality show. I've got my favorite and I hope he wins, but there's not much I can do to affect the outcome. So I might as well follow along and enjoy the show.
The problem is this is not just a legal issue. As others have pointed out regardless of who wins the other side will feel cheated. This is a public relations issue as well as a legal issue. If they have the evidence I would highly recommend they release it ASAP so this effort can get some legitimacy with the larger population.
Tucker Carlson’s Rant on Sidney Powell Shocks His Audience
This is the monologue that everyone's already talking about. Watch and decide for yourself.rumble.com
Based on the Fox's record, I wouldn't show them shit either. You can find out in court when everyone else does.
Bigfoot
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Tucker Carlson's show isn't the place to reveal the evidence... LOLAs I said, Powell is a liar and her mouth writes checks her ass can’t cash. Carlson is very right wing but he also has a finely tuned bullshit detecting nose and he wouldn’t have bent over for Sidney. That’s why she won’t go on his show and she hasn’t put up a speck of evidence for all the lies she’s told about the election.
Tucker Carlson challenges Trump lawyer Sidney Powell to show evidence
Fox News host Tucker Carlson called out Donald Trump lawyer Sidney Powell after she raised startling allegations of a massive nationwide voter fraud but refused to provide any evidence.www.dailymail.co.uk
That is what the court room is for. Not a news studio.
Incase you didn't know Tucker has also worked for CNN and MSNBC.
Tucker is not the end all be all.
Powell doesn't owe Tucker anything.
livingston
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He has 73 million strong behind him
holdover
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Where does it say it must be done within two weeks of the election? Give it some time. Its a legal matter and "I's must be dotted and the "T's" crossed.
kev74
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JaguarJaguarGolf
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Sidney said 80 million voted for President Trump
Jsmegs77
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Why do people keep opining that the evidence of fraud compiled must be released via the legacy media to the general population? The legacy media, in very great majority (I'm being kind...from where I sit it's statistically 100%), is completely untrustworthy. The general population, as a rule, falls under the old saw of "stupid people in large groups". You can substitute apathetic, disinterested, or any number of other adjectives for stupid, if you prefer. Whichever invective you choose, the population by and large is content with bread and circuses and will not give any credence to something that isn't either tasty or titillating.
What is being stridently demanded by Carlson et al is nothing other than to try the allegations of election fraud in the court of public opinion. That is patently absurd and any rational adult should dismiss such nonsense out of hand. Children make such demands...and Democrats. Let the compiled evidence be presented in an actual courtroom, compared with the laws as written both federally and in their respective states, and if all these allegations we're seeing posted are actually true, bring the full force of the law to bear on the perpetrators, regardless of station.
And why not?
What is being stridently demanded by Carlson et al is nothing other than to try the allegations of election fraud in the court of public opinion. That is patently absurd and any rational adult should dismiss such nonsense out of hand. Children make such demands...and Democrats. Let the compiled evidence be presented in an actual courtroom, compared with the laws as written both federally and in their respective states, and if all these allegations we're seeing posted are actually true, bring the full force of the law to bear on the perpetrators, regardless of station.
And why not?
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
And there are 73 million opposed. Shouldn't we try to convince them as well?
Yes certainly. If the Trump team is able to show sufficient evidence to the court that the court steps in and rules in his favor, the evidence will be apparent to all. Whether or not the left wants to accept it is an entirely different question. Based on the last 4 years I’m guessing no.
spat
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Some of the 73 million would be convinced.
Some would never be convinced by any evidence.
There are people out there who would believe it if Biden claimed to get 10 legitimate million votes in Philly alone. You could not convince them it was impossible.
The question is how many of the 73 million are persuadable, and what would the unpersuadable going to do about it.
You can say the same things and ask the same questions about Trump supporters.
ArmedCorgi
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What is the significance of this?
GOYABEAN
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ammunition
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This is a very strange post. Asserting these court cases have not been heard. Some haven’t but apparently trump has presently won one case and lost something like two dozen. At this rate if he files another thousand or so perhaps he’ll make some real headway.
Steal2B
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Smoking Gun: Dominion Transferring Vote Ratios between Precincts in PA.
Blimey
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Burden of proof is on Powell to prove what she has claimed. That is how logic works, it’s how courts work.
She has nothing. Watch and see.
Blimey
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There have been recounts and court cases. What else can the government do?
Blimey
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Powell today told Maria bartiromo this will all be proven within two weeks.
December 4 I’ll look like the most naive fool in this forum’s history, or Powell will have failed to prove this claim of millions of votes discredited by dominion software.
JaguarJaguarGolf
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What is the standard of proof that Sidney Powell needs to prevail in Court?
Beyond a reasonable Doubt
Preponderance of Evidence
Other
How much fraud must be shown to Court to throw out an election as fraudulent?
Beyond a reasonable Doubt
Preponderance of Evidence
Other
How much fraud must be shown to Court to throw out an election as fraudulent?
spat
.950 JDJ
I'm not sure there is anything at this point that could convince most people it was legitimate.
Many of us could see this coming well ahead of time. The existing system lacks enough protections for it to deliver a trustworthy result. There is no way to reconcile this election without re-doing it with robust audit trails and proper transparency.
You can count and recount fraudulent ballots as many times as you want, it's the validity of the ballots themselves that's in question.
Think of it this way, if the IRS went to audit your return, but you had tossed all your receipts, etc. What could you do ?
Would it even matter if all your deductions were legitimate if you couldn't prove it ? The IRS isn't going to sit there and try to prove your deduction is fraudulent, they're just going to say "you can't prove it's legitimate, so that makes it invalid"
They can't prove the votes are legitimate.
Recounts are just checking the math on the 1040. Without the proof the deductions are legitimate it doesn't prove anything just because the totals add up.
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
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