I would encourage you to take a deep dive into our demand for engineers, the numbers produced and the engineering programs abroad turning out quality engineers.
A lot of the time the guys from overseas won't even actually do the work themselves. Sometimes they do, but often not. They get hired, and then while working they skype or zoom or message someone they are paying with the actual knowledge, and lying they actually have it.I would encourage you to take a deep dive into our demand for engineers, the numbers produced and the engineering programs abroad turning out quality engineers.
It's too easy to dumb it down like many are. It has been a problem for decades now. Only now, when told, we are outraged.
I would encourage you to take a deep dive into our demand for engineers, the numbers produced and the engineering programs abroad turning out quality engineers.
It's too easy to dumb it down like many are. It has been a problem for decades now. Only now, when told, we are outraged.
I thought that'd fit into the "two or more races" category (which is listed).
O-1? "Non-immigrant temporary worker visa granted to an alien with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, athletics, or in the motion picture or television industry recognized nationally or internationally for those achievements."
No, I'm not talking about mixed race.
I would like to see that link. I'm unaware of any numbers proposed by anyone in the Trump administration.
Do you want to trust this article, or do you want to ask the people on this forum with real world experience working with these people in that industry what the reality is?
I would love to chat to someone in this forum that runs a tech or engineering company who is looking for top qualified people. Know anyone I can talk to?
I don't see aerospace engineers on the list. Also I am pretty sure aerospace engineers have a masters degree or better. H-1B it's bachelors degrees and yes I did read the or better part.
There is a lot of right below 100k ones in that 60-100k range. That makes sense. Engineering salaries are easily averaging 150k these days if you have a decade of experience. So rather than pay the American with a decade of experience, as I said above, they're opting to save themselves 50k a year or more by bringing in the foreign national.
Sort of. Most aerospace engineers (or engineers in general really) start work after their undergrad, then have their employer pay for their graduate degree. That said, there may be a bit of a blip in the system right now due to COVID - a lot of kids graduating during that time opted to jump straight into their graduate degrees since the job market was tight.
I don't run one, but I work in the industry.
one of my customers was/is a Engineering Professor at RIT, He was old at the time so I assume he's either retired or dead by now. 15 -- 20 years ago he told me he's was scared that our country is going to hell in a hand basket because of "common core math"I would encourage you to take a deep dive into our demand for engineers, the numbers produced and the engineering programs abroad turning out quality engineers.
It's too easy to dumb it down like many are. It has been a problem for decades now. Only now, when told, we are outraged.
How many of those 133 million Americans can code? How many of them can deploy git driven automation at scale?This entire narrative has gotten out of control. I haven't found one shred of data as to exactly what occupations are to be filled. All that was said by Musk was he would like it doubled. So we are talking about 130k vs the current 2024 number of 65k.
Below is what a H1b actually is as of Dec 2024. Its worth a read and especially pay attention to education requirements.
H-1B Specialty Occupations | USCIS
This nonimmigrant classification applies to people who wish to perform services in a specialty occupation, services of exceptional merit and ability relating to a Department of Defense (DOD) cooperative research and development project, or services as a fashion model of distinguished merit or...www.uscis.gov
Currently there are 133 million full time working Americans. So 130k H1b visas for highly educated people in tech fields would be 0.0009% of the total work force. Context matters. The media getting serious mileage out of this lol
Now go look at the shortages we have here in the highly degreed tech fields our companies and the tech sector are looking for.
Don't ask me, tell me.
I'm upset that they're being used when they shouldnt' be. If you work in tech like @SonOfSun and @SomeSoldier and myself do, then you know how many colleagues are out of work because H1-Bs are replacing their jobs and the layoffs. The H1-Bs are replacing Americans that can do the job.Don't ask me, tell me.
People need to stop looking at authentic information and then trying to fit it into their bias.
I have already stated that there is a severe shortage in high tech capable degreed people for many of these H1b jobs that have been in effect for many administrations and no one said shit about it. I've railed about H1b's for at least 2 decades. lol
I have looked into this as much as I care to. I am not holding anyone's hand anymore.
This is a non issue by the numbers and now Trump has issued a social media shut down for all his cabinet until they are confirmed. The media spinning it as trouble in Trump's cabinet picks ahead of Senate confirmation. All planned. All started with this BS narrative of which now the media will have a field day moving onto a new connected narrative to discredit Trump picks.
I'm curious though, are you upset with the current and past 65k H1b visa's every year or the jump to a possible 130K? Did you even know that number?
Well then, maybe they should drop the degree requirement and allow skilled, experienced workers to apply?
Not enough of the 133 million can code, or administer a database, or even know what git or ansible or any of those are.
I don't see how you can justify us importing them while American tech workers are laid off in record numbers.
Coders are going to be replaced by AI in the next 5 to 10 years.
Some might, but I'm still dubious. Depends on what you're writing. I've seen AI spit back some code that was just plain wrong because it doesn't have change notes awareness around the protocols of Consul, for example, and what Raft versions are supported.
