96coal449
.308 Win
Okay, I'll settle for urban breeding farm.
Eminent domain might occur to make the Micron plant happen in Clay, NY
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Brawny71
.223 Rem
And full taxes with small plucks all year long.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Just ask Grok.
Overview of the Micron Plant ProposalThe proposed Micron Technology semiconductor manufacturing facility, often referred to as the "Micron Campus," is planned for the White Pine Commerce Park, a 1,377-acre site primarily in the Town of Clay, New York, with portions extending into the adjacent Town of Cicero. The project involves constructing up to four fabrication plants (fabs) over 20+ years, at a total estimated cost of $100 billion. It is expected to create nearly 50,000 jobs (direct and indirect) and includes commitments to sustainability, such as 100% renewable energy use and LEED Gold certification for buildings. The initiative is supported by up to $6.1 billion in federal CHIPS Act grants, $4.6 billion in additional incentives, and about $15 billion in tax breaks from federal, state, and local sources.Current Status as of November 24, 2025The project remains in the pre-construction phase, with significant progress on environmental reviews and permitting but no groundbreaking yet. Key updates include:
Overview of the Micron Plant ProposalThe proposed Micron Technology semiconductor manufacturing facility, often referred to as the "Micron Campus," is planned for the White Pine Commerce Park, a 1,377-acre site primarily in the Town of Clay, New York, with portions extending into the adjacent Town of Cicero. The project involves constructing up to four fabrication plants (fabs) over 20+ years, at a total estimated cost of $100 billion. It is expected to create nearly 50,000 jobs (direct and indirect) and includes commitments to sustainability, such as 100% renewable energy use and LEED Gold certification for buildings. The initiative is supported by up to $6.1 billion in federal CHIPS Act grants, $4.6 billion in additional incentives, and about $15 billion in tax breaks from federal, state, and local sources.Current Status as of November 24, 2025The project remains in the pre-construction phase, with significant progress on environmental reviews and permitting but no groundbreaking yet. Key updates include:
- Environmental Review: The Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) was released on June 25, 2025, analyzing impacts on traffic, water, air, population growth, and local ecosystems. A public hearing was held on July 24, 2025, at Liverpool High School. The comment period closed on August 11, 2025. The Final EIS is pending, with approvals expected in a compressed 2-year window (from initial filing).
- Permitting: The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (NYSDEC) issued a Notice of Complete Application for the Air Title V permit. Public comments on this are open until December 17, 2025 (ending soon after the current date).
- Site Preparation and Construction Timeline: Ground preparation was anticipated to begin in 2025 following environmental approvals, with full construction start targeted for November 2025. As of late 2025, site acquisition is complete (final parcel secured by Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency), but delays in federal/state approvals have pushed the timeline. Continuous construction is projected from 2025 to 2041 if approvals are finalized soon.
- Infrastructure Planning: New York State announced initial steps in June 2025 to revamp roads and highways in Clay and Cicero to handle increased traffic, estimated at $350–375 million in public costs. Micron plans a rail spur to reduce truck traffic and has committed $500 million to local initiatives, including water supply expansions (e.g., a $549 million pipeline from Lake Ontario). Power grid preparations are underway, with Micron's first fab potentially drawing significant electricity as early as 2025, prompting New York ISO to plan for additional capacity.
- Community and Workforce Development: Onondaga Community College and Syracuse University have expanded training programs, including a simulated clean room. Micron opened a welcome center in downtown Syracuse in early 2025 and continues community outreach via forums and surveys (reaching over 8,300 people). Local housing growth is projected, with Syracuse adding ~7,500 households and Cicero/Clay seeing 1,000+ each by 2041.
- Delays: The project has faced multiple postponements, including a third groundbreaking delay noted in early 2025 reports. Political factors, such as President Trump's calls to repeal the CHIPS Act, have raised concerns, though officials urge patience and emphasize bipartisan support.
- Public and Cost Concerns: Earlier secrecy around impact reports led to FOIL disputes in April 2025, with critics highlighting taxpayer burdens for infrastructure. Recent X discussions echo frustrations over traffic mitigation costs falling on locals.
- Overall Outlook: 2025 was described as a "pivotal" year, with milestones like the DEIS release achieved. If permits finalize by late 2025/early 2026, the first fab could be operational by 2030, positioning Central New York as a major U.S. semiconductor hub (one in four American-made chips by 2030).
We need this as a country, just not at tax payer expense like the deal is now.
Grok should change the housing from sorrycuse to cicero/north Syracuse numbers, who would build IN sorrycuse ? Unless tax payers foot that bill too.
Grok should change the housing from sorrycuse to cicero/north Syracuse numbers, who would build IN sorrycuse ? Unless tax payers foot that bill too.
Look at it like this.
Where is the water coming from: Oswego county
Where is the power coming from: Oswego county (like green energy is even a thing).
Who has land with no zoning: Oswego county
Lets put it in Onondaga county and make more work (WPA days new deal demonrats), all the infrastructure (that needs updating, to upload cat and I ate this videos), the ever blowing winds of some kind of change to be told later, environmental, seeing how this political shit works I could be a billionaire in a short time.
Now what rank of politicians is best to swoop in and save the project (nearest voting needs) by which party, and what % could be skimmed (or do we just say daaii don't know)?
This all happens every time, putting it (anything) close to the most needed items only cuts the size and time the grafting can go.
So, yep, put it in a demonrat controlled county, Oswego would be cheaper and have a new airport (with this much building the Cos would pay for it, not sure if jets could land, small jets), the area surrounding would boom; need at least a new nuke and it is already waiting, next to the 3 others and a gas cogen., train spurs are still in parts into the areas. I see big gas pipe lines not sure on that.
But still should be less than Onondaga.
Where is the water coming from: Oswego county
Where is the power coming from: Oswego county (like green energy is even a thing).
Who has land with no zoning: Oswego county
Lets put it in Onondaga county and make more work (WPA days new deal demonrats), all the infrastructure (that needs updating, to upload cat and I ate this videos), the ever blowing winds of some kind of change to be told later, environmental, seeing how this political shit works I could be a billionaire in a short time.
Now what rank of politicians is best to swoop in and save the project (nearest voting needs) by which party, and what % could be skimmed (or do we just say daaii don't know)?
This all happens every time, putting it (anything) close to the most needed items only cuts the size and time the grafting can go.
So, yep, put it in a demonrat controlled county, Oswego would be cheaper and have a new airport (with this much building the Cos would pay for it, not sure if jets could land, small jets), the area surrounding would boom; need at least a new nuke and it is already waiting, next to the 3 others and a gas cogen., train spurs are still in parts into the areas. I see big gas pipe lines not sure on that.
But still should be less than Onondaga.
Saltwater60
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And Hochul is giving people on assistance $1,800 when they have a kid now. This is only for people that are on assistance.
96coal449
.308 Win
Miss use of extorted tax monies but, non the less, $1800 doesn't by diddly these days.
Agreed, what it does is, it encourages feet to be pointed at the sky to breed.
You may have missed it.........................MICRON PLANT PUT ON HOLD FOR 3 YEARS
www.syracuse.com
It will never be built now.
Arizona and Ohio plants, for example and other Red State plantsa will get the Fed funding that Micron is losing.
Micron chip factories in Upstate NY will be delayed by 2-3 years, company says
The first factory won’t open until eight years after Micron announced its plans to build in Clay.
www.syracuse.com
It will never be built now.
Arizona and Ohio plants, for example and other Red State plantsa will get the Fed funding that Micron is losing.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Well the old lady won. They settled with her for almost $3 million dollars. Good for her. Scumbags made a deal with her to buy her property but then allowed her to live there until her death. She outlived them and what they planned. They tried to cancel the deal they made with her and so eminent domain. Not sure how they could do eminent domain because they already owned the house.
I'm glad she won in the end.
www.syracuse.com
I'm glad she won in the end.
County to pay 91-year-old widow $3 million in deal to move her off Micron site
The deal would allow Micron Technology to begin site work on a $100 billion semiconductor plant in Clay.
www.syracuse.com
jimc
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Well the old lady won. They settled with her for almost $3 million dollars. Good for her. Scumbags made a deal with her to buy her property but then allowed her to live there until her death. She outlived them and what they planned. They tried to cancel the deal they made with her and so eminent domain. Not sure how they could do eminent domain because they already owned the house.
I'm glad she won in the end.
County to pay 91-year-old widow $3 million in deal to move her off Micron site
The deal would allow Micron Technology to begin site work on a $100 billion semiconductor plant in Clay.
I wonder if the state will try to find a way to tax as income the amount over the actual property value.
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
Capital gains?
It is called capital gains.
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Settlements can be taxable, or not............she had a life estate, that was bought out.........
www.elderlawanswers.com
Capital Gains Tax Exclusion for Homeowners: Who Qualifies and How It Works
The IRS capital gains home sales tax exclusion can be a valuable tool if you're eligible.
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Settlements can be taxable, or not............she had a life estate, that was bought out.........
What Is a Life Estate?: Estate Planning Basics
A life estate often comes up in discussions of estate and Medicaid planning. It is a form of joint ownership that allows one person to remain in a house...
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Eminent 'Domain' takes on a whole new meaning in the shithole.
Robin
Robin
Saltwater60
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I’m sure they will. This wasn’t a sale of the property because she already sold it to them so I’d assume it will all be looked at as income.
Previous to this she signed the home over with her husband, but they were granted the right to live there for the remainder of their lives as part of the sale. Then they tried to nullify that and then they tried eminent domain or at least floated the idea. I’d assume the contract was legal since a government agency did it and since she didn’t own the property I can’t see how eminent domain would help steal her property in this case.
The article states there are bats that leave caves soon and go roost in the trees around their property. It’s illegal federally to remove the trees bats are roosting in so they need to remove the trees over the next few months or be delayed. If they are delayed longer they lose out on $36 billion in federal grants of memory serves me correctly. They have to get to a certain point by year’s end or they lose that federal money. So essentially $3 million was a drop in the bucket to them and the old lady should have held out for more.
Saltwater60
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I’m not sure capital gains would apply because she no longer owns the property. She signed it over to the government years ago and as a condition of that sale she was allowed to remain living there until her death. Well she’s not dead. They essentially laid her to government up her right to remain living there as a previous contract stated. So they paid her to breach a contract.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
Attorneys take, 33%
Eminent Domaine settlements are considered fair market value.
A Life Estate, does not preclude the latest settlementm that is not an Eminent Domaine taking................. just a purchase, of an existing Life Estate, re-evaluated.......to reflect existing market values....................I seriously doubt that the IRS or NYS Real Property Tax Services will interfere, and there is likely a tax clarification/liability in the new purchase agreement.
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A Life Estate, does not preclude the latest settlementm that is not an Eminent Domaine taking................. just a purchase, of an existing Life Estate, re-evaluated.......to reflect existing market values....................I seriously doubt that the IRS or NYS Real Property Tax Services will interfere, and there is likely a tax clarification/liability in the new purchase agreement.
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