Eyewitness Survivors of Mandalay Bay are being MURDERED

[Marine Cpl]

I don't know anything so far. That is why I will wait to hear their side. I am willing to consider the possibility of minor or major deceit once I hear what is said.

You and others here assume without reservation that the ONLY possible outcome is a massive coverup of pure lies by every agency in the land. You do this prior to a final and complete report by the people most intimate with the actual facts of the case.

Just because you have been lied to before does not necessarily mean you will be this time.

So when we are shown evidence of 23 guns, no shell casings, security guard fleeing to another country, multiple eye witness accounts stating that there was more than 1 shooter, ect, we should just stay quiet when they tell us that there was only one shooter until the final report comes out? Meanwhile those that are willing to go on record and say something else are having accidents or being taken away on child porn charges. Yep. Let's wait.

Why don't they stay quiet until the final report comes out themselves instead of stepping all over themselves and changing the facts every couple of days?

Dollars to donuts says there will be no final report. It's forgotten about already. Keep waiting there buddy.

I'm sure you find some of this evidence we posted as questionable on their part but you'll never admit it. You'll fight it out to the end and talk about reptiles and make jokes rather than be a man about it and say that perhaps we have a point on a particular issue.

I mean come on man. You are a gun guy. You don't actually think one guy planned this and thought he needed 23 guns, fired hundreds of shots and there was no spent brass in the room? You make piles of it at the range in a half hour session.

No one here is saying that the FBI themselves did it. All we are saying is that one man didn't do it by himself.

 

[CaseHardened]

Vegas shooter had been losing money for two years and 'was going in the wrong direction,' sheriff says

FIRST: The myth that he supported himself by Gambling is unravelling.

"Since September 2015, he's lost a significant amount of wealth, and I think that might have been a determining factor on what he was determined to do," Lombardo said.

AnnCoulter: Reputedly serious news organizations are claiming that he made a living playing video poker. That's like claiming someone made a living smoking crack.

October 11, 2017 - MEDIA BEGGING US FOR CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON LAS VEGAS

SECOND: Paddock fatally shot himself at the end of his 10-minute-long attack, and the hard drives that had been removed from the computers found in his room have not been found, the sheriff said.

Three possibilities:

A: Paddock was so twisted he hauled non-functional computers into his room from the very start. Perhaps only to confuse us.
B: Paddock removed and tossed the Hard Drives during the several previous days in the room.
C: Someone stole the Hard Drives after the fact: If so, would not stealing the entire units be easier ? Though bulkier, yes.

I'm going with B.

There was information on them.

Either concerning his Escape Plan, or his possible Illegal Gun Running. Or his possible accomplishes.

 

[Magnus]

LOL. What? Do you know how many fairly young and healthy individuals die everyday? And due to car crashes no less? It's alot lol.

Ok but look at the specific facts

Danny Contreras dies in a house in his own neighborhood, from multiple gunshots which nobody apparently heard.

Kimberley dies from anxiety.

Dennis and Lorraine die from their Mercedes crashing into a gate and catching fire.

It all seems like regular deaths until you have one link;
all were on the news claiming they saw multiple shooters.

 

[CaseHardened]

Ok, just a Wild Thought:

Paddock made his money from Gun Running.

Paddock loved to Gamble, but also Laundered Money that way.

Paddock is an ALT-LEFT LOON that wanted to murder as many Conservative Trump Supporters as he could.

Paddock was involved in "Fast and Furious".

There are some in the "Deep State" that could still be exposed as being involved in "Fast and Furious".

The destruction of the Hard Drives and overall Cover Up is necessary to protect them.

Now this does not explain "Multiple Shooters". Maybe there weren't. Or maybe there were. Maybe ISIS was involved. No single theory pulls it all together - so far.

BUT THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE,

 

[holdover]

Nobody is claiming to have an answer, only questioning the narrative they have given us.

 

[Magnus]

The key to this whole thing is the autopsy. All the victims should have matching caliber wounds and similar entry holes.

 

[Defilade]

Ok, just a Wild Thought:

Paddock made his money from Gun Running.

Paddock loved to Gamble, but also Laundered Money that way.

Paddock is an ALT-LEFT LOON that wanted to murder as many Conservative Trump Supporters as he could.

Paddock was involved in "Fast and Furious".

There are some in the "Deep State" that could still be exposed as being involved in "Fast and Furious".

The destruction of the Hard Drives and overall Cover Up is necessary to protect them.

Now this does not explain "Multiple Shooters". Maybe there weren't. Or maybe there were. Maybe ISIS was involved. No single theory pulls it all together - so far.

BUT THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE,

That's right the truth is out there. So show the video footage that resides in all casinos, enough to show you wiping your ass at 3 in the morning in 5 different directions.

 

[ManrisFrack]

The key to this whole thing is the autopsy. All the victims should have matching caliber wounds and similar entry holes.

Assuming at least one other shooter, that could be the real reason for the multiple guns in the room. 30 cal bullet shows up in the evidence - oh, he must've used at least two different guns.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Ok but look at the specific facts

Danny Contreras dies in a house in his own neighborhood, from multiple gunshots which nobody apparently heard.

Kimberley dies from anxiety.

Dennis and Lorraine die from their Mercedes crashing into a gate and catching fire.

It all seems like regular deaths until you have one link;
all were on the news claiming they saw multiple shooters.

Sounds eerily similar to the untimely deaths to many of the Clintons associates and enemies.

 

[Magnus]

Sounds eerily similar to the untimely deaths to many of the Clintons associates and enemies.

And people believe the Clinton murders religiously.

 

[freddy]

Ok but look at the specific facts

Danny Contreras dies in a house in his own neighborhood, from multiple gunshots which nobody apparently heard.

Kimberley dies from anxiety.

Dennis and Lorraine die from their Mercedes crashing into a gate and catching fire.

It all seems like regular deaths until you have one link;
all were on the news claiming they saw multiple shooters.

Logical fallacy. Correlation does not equal causation.

Eg: My grandpa smoked 5 packs a day until he got hit by a car at 102 years old. Therefore smoking is not harmful to your health.

 

[freddy]

...You don't actually think one guy planned this and though he needed 23 guns, fired hundreds of shots and there was no spent brass in the room? You make piles of it at the range in a half hour session.

Please link to proof that the brass is missing. Just because a few photos do not show the brass where you expect it, does not mean it is missing. For all you know it has been discovered in the bushes below the window, or in a brass catcher on one of the rifles, or on the floor of the hotel room in a photo yet to be released. There are lots of possible explanations but you are too impatient to wait.

 

[freddy]

No one here is saying that the FBI themselves did it. All we are saying is that one man didn't do it by himself.

Please present clear proof. Your assertion is simply conjecture, weakly supported at that.

 

[freddy]

If any random WHITE GUY with GUNS can just wake up on any given Morning, SNAP, and start shooting people, by all means the SECOND ADMENDMENT should be repealed.

I am most curious why you think a random white guy with guns cannot snap and start shooting people. Is it because he is white?

 

[Magnus]

Please present clear proof. Your assertion is simply conjecture, weakly supported at that.

Our witnesses who are documented as saying there were other shooters are dead. Brownie points for trying?

 

[DoD1776]

Like, OMG!!! Four people died?!?!?! Like, from a car crash?!?!?! That settles it! Conspiracy! Illuminati! Like, Area 51, OMG!!! Reptile aliens from space! Case closed!

No one said Illuminati, Area 51 or aliens...

 

[DoD1776]

I am most curious why you think a random white guy with guns cannot snap and start shooting people. Is it because he is white?

Nice race card haha. You look pretty ignorant just saying

 

[Marine Cpl]

Please present clear proof. Your assertion is simply conjecture, weakly supported at that.

My proof is from years of shooting from both civilian life and military life. There would be brass all over that room. It wouldn't fall out the window unless the entire rifle was hanging out while it was being shot which it was not as evidenced by video.

Brass ejects rearward not forward.

So either the brass was cleaned up by the shooter or an accomplice, it never happened there, or only a few rounds were fired from there.

But definitely the hundred plus rounds weren't all from there. Many eyewitnesses that were actually there have said otherwise.

 

[CaseHardened]

And people believe the Clinton murders religiously.

As they should.

 

[Robin]

Journalist Michael Hastings sent chilling email to colleagues before death

A husband and wife survived the Las Vegas massacre. They died in a fiery crash two weeks later.

 

[Robin]

Different time line, same outcome.
Robin

 

[CaseHardened]

I am most curious why you think a random white guy with guns cannot snap and start shooting people. Is it because he is white?

The entire concept is FALSE.

NO ONE ever has just woken up some Morning and after years of peaceful existence, "SNAPPED" and began a SPONTANEOUS KILLING SPREE.

It's a complete FANTASY.

Yet that's just what the MEDIA is pushing.

 

[Magnus]

Logical fallacy. Correlation does not equal causation.

Eg: My grandpa smoked 5 packs a day until he got hit by a car at 102 years old. Therefore smoking is not harmful to your health.

But there’s a big difference between the two situations. In your example, your result was irrelevant. In the Vegas example you have some mystery person who can benefit from the death of these people. All 4 had too many similarities to just be random deaths.

1. Survived Vegas shooting
2. Spoke about more shooters to the news
3. Died not even a month after the shooting
4. No witnesses to the deaths

Chatton’s anti-razor, if the explanation given isn’t satisfactory and you’re sure the explanation given is true, fine another explanation.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

My pps43 ejects brass forward and slightly to the right. Quite far too. My RFB (rifle forward ejection bullpup) ejects brass forward by design. FN F2000 ejects brass forward by design. Just sayin.

 

[Magnus]

The entire concept is FALSE.

NO ONE ever has just woken up some Morning and after years of peaceful existence, "SNAPPED" and began a SPONTANEOUS KILLING SPREE.

It's a complete FANTASY.

Yet that's just what the MEDIA is pushing.

Actually two I can think of,

Charles Whitman
Harvey Lee Oswald

And we know those were straight no government involvement situations.

 

[CaseHardened]

No Pics.
No Fingerprints.
No Autopsies.
No Timeline that makes sense - despite several failed efforts to invent one.

This is the slowest story since MOHAMMED NOOR.

"on paid administrative leave"

 

[CaseHardened]

Actually two I can think of,

Charles Whitman
Harvey Lee Oswald

And we know those were straight no government involvement situations.

Uh Huh

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Journalist Michael Hastings sent chilling email to colleagues before death

A husband and wife survived the Las Vegas massacre. They died in a fiery crash two weeks later.

That is crazy. Super ominous warning that the timing and likely hood of it being merely coincidental is possible but quite low. The dude knew something was up.

Taken from the article
"Fifteen hours later, in the early morning of June 18, Hastings was driving a Mercedes C250 at a high speed when he lost control in Los Angeles’ Hancock Park neighborhood, causing the car to fishtail and crash into a palm tree. The impact caused the car to burst into flames, trapping the 33-year-old inside."

This sounds almost identical to a scene in a book I read. The Days of Rage
https://www.amazon.com/Days-Rage-Pi...8&qid=1509722774&sr=8-2&keywords=days+of+rage
Written by a former delta force/CIA spy about remotely over riding and crashing a car to take someone out to look like an accident. The technology is there to do it.

 

[CaseHardened]

That is crazy. Super ominous warning that the timing and likely hood of it being merely coincidental is possible but quite low. The dude knew something was up.

Taken from the article
"Fifteen hours later, in the early morning of June 18, Hastings was driving a Mercedes C250 at a high speed when he lost control in Los Angeles’ Hancock Park neighborhood, causing the car to fishtail and crash into a palm tree. The impact caused the car to burst into flames, trapping the 33-year-old inside."

This sounds almost identical to a scene in a book I read. The Days of Rage
https://www.amazon.com/Days-Rage-Pi...8&qid=1509722774&sr=8-2&keywords=days+of+rage
Written by a former delta force/CIA spy about remotely over riding and crashing a car to take someone out to look like an accident. The technology is there to do it.

Obviously, when you want to murder several people, make each murder look totally different and totally unrelated.

E.I., Car Crash, Mugging, Suicide, OverDose, Heart Attack - there's five right there.

 

[holdover]

I don't know anything so far. That is why I will wait to hear their side. I am willing to consider the possibility of minor or major deceit once I hear what is said.

You and others here assume without reservation that the ONLY possible outcome is a massive coverup of pure lies by every agency in the land. You do this prior to a final and complete report by the people most intimate with the actual facts of the case.

Just because you have been lied to before does not necessarily mean you will be this time.[/QUOTE



Do you see the problem with what you said?

The FBI which is suspected of withholding evidence are the same group that you are waiting for a reply from. If they were hiding facts do you really think they are going to freaking tell you? The FBI are the suspects