Federal judge in Seattle temporarily blocks Trump's travel ban nationwide

[Dr. Evil]

Federal judge in Seattle temporarily blocks Trump's travel ban nationwide

This is like a freaking chess game. It figures. Washington State, Seattle.

 

[Darth]

Am I the only one that doesn't see a huge problem with the fact that a leader of a nation's ability to even temporarily limit people coming in from all over the world is, to some, "illegal?"

""The executive order effectively mandates that the states engage in discrimination based on national origin and/or religion, thereby rescinding the states' historic protection of civil rights and religious freedom," the complaint says."

Umm, my friend, you can't just slide in an "and/or" when the second part of the statement is completely false.

"The leading cause of death in the US is heart disease and/or silly putty."

 

[Calculon]

God help all of these lib douchebags if any of the illegals they insist on letting in go on a rampage. As far as I'm concerned they deserve any horror that comes their way.

 

[Defilade]

They have to keep flooding the Country with the Dems voter base.

 

[Jmac00]

since when does anyone have a RIGHT to come to America.

And I can't WAIT for the women of America to find out exactly what they want to invite into our country. When Sharia law is instituted, all the liberal women are going to lose the minds ~~~ or more correctly, their heads

 

[Truebeliever]

Legal precedent is against this judge's decision. The higher courts had ruled that states don't have "standing" about immigration. Yep, it was Obama's suing AZ that made the precedent. Liberals, you can't have it both ways. Well, according to the judge, I guess they can

 

[Dr. Evil]

Ho

Legal precedent is against this judge's decision. The higher courts had ruled that states don't have "standing" about immigration. Yep, it was Obama's suing AZ that made the precedent. Liberals, you can't have it both ways. Well, according to the judge, I guess they can

How long then until it is back on and this POS Governor eats crow?

 

[spat]

If judges make an honestly wrong ruling, thats one thing, but when they make a ruling that they know (or should have known) will be overturned on appeal, it should be criminal IMHO.

 

[livingston]

mor·a·to·ri·um
a temporary prohibition of an activity.
ˌmôrəˈtôrēəm/embargo, ban, prohibition, suspension, postponement, stay, stoppage, halt, freeze, standstill, respite

This is not a ban .. it is a ... moratorium ... Calling it as such would not fit into the agenda

 

[Truebeliever]

If judges make an honestly wrong ruling, thats one thing, but when they make a ruling that they know (or should have known) will be overturned on appeal, it should be criminal IMHO.

No, there is a process for that. Impeachment but it doesn't rise to that level. If he gets a slap down by the appeals court( not just overturned), they will keep him from being assigned any similar cases in the future.

Remember they're judges who will find for the 2nd Admendment but knowing it will be overturned

 

[VietnamEraVet]

My guess is that since this will likely get appealed to SCOTUS, that we need to get Judge Gorsuch confirmed ASAP.

I would hate to see it get to SCOTUS while they are 4/4, and have the lower court ruling upheld due to such a tie.

These fucking judges are out to destroy our country from within I swear.

 

[Robin]

Wonder what they have on that judge(?)?
Robin

 

[Gunner57]

Some interesting facts on this douche bag judge...

James Robart: 5 things to know about judge who blocked travel ban




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[VietnamEraVet]

As I posted above (#11), this is now veering to becoming a clusterfuck. An activist judge gets his decision upheld by the ultra liberal 9th Circuit, and this risks going to SCOTUS, where the 9th's order blocking Trump would be upheld if SCOTUS ruled 4-4. Trump needs to get Gorsuch on the court BEFORE this case makes it to SCOTUS. If the en banc 9th upholds his decision, Trump needs to NOT appeal this to SCOTUS until he can get Gorsuch confirmed and on SCOTUS.

 

[spat]

As I posted above (#11), this is now veering to becoming a clusterfuck. An activist judge gets his decision upheld by the ultra liberal 9th Circuit, and this risks going to SCOTUS, where the 9th's order blocking Trump would be upheld if SCOTUS ruled 4-4. Trump needs to get Gorsuch on the court BEFORE this case makes it to SCOTUS. If the en banc 9th upholds his decision, Trump needs to NOT appeal this to SCOTUS until he can get Gorsuch confirmed and on SCOTUS.

It was only ever a temporary ban until the vetting process could be improved. Odds are that it will take longer to get it reinstated than it was going to last anyway. SCOTUS wouldn't hear it till sometime in 2018, the ban would have expired before this summer.

There is a reason they say justice delayed is justice denied, and a reason that many in our country are quite happy with the glacial pace our justice system takes.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

It was only ever a temporary ban until the vetting process could be improved. Odds are that it will take longer to get it reinstated than it was going to last anyway. SCOTUS wouldn't hear it till sometime in 2018, the ban would have expired before this summer.

There is a reason they say justice delayed is justice denied, and a reason that many in our country are quite happy with the glacial pace our justice system takes.

According to a couple of articles I read, if the 9th rules against Trump's order, there is the possibility that SCOTUS could hear it beginning with the new sessions this coming April. Unless Gorsuch is seated at the time of the arguments, he cannot rule on it. And without him, there is a strong likelihood of the 9th's decision being upheld. If it is, I understand that the concern would be that the law Trump used (USC 18... that gives the President ultimate authority over immigration pauses like this) would be overruled by a binding decision of SCOTUS that upheld the 9th's decision.

So, if I'm right, Trump would want to get Gorsuch seated ASAP (before April 2017), and that he should avoid appealing any decision against him from the 9th Circuit until Gorsuch is on board SCOTUS.

 

[stuck in ny]

Why don't they use the nuclear option.

 

[spat]

According to a couple of articles I read, if the 9th rules against Trump's order, there is the possibility that SCOTUS could hear it beginning with the new sessions this coming April. Unless Gorsuch is seated at the time of the arguments, he cannot rule on it. And without him, there is a strong likelihood of the 9th's decision being upheld. If it is, I understand that the concern would be that the law Trump used (USC 18... that gives the President ultimate authority over immigration pauses like this) would be overruled by a binding decision of SCOTUS that upheld the 9th's decision.

So, if I'm right, Trump would want to get Gorsuch seated ASAP (before April 2017), and that he should avoid appealing any decision against him from the 9th Circuit until Gorsuch is on board SCOTUS.

Since it was only a 90 day ban they wont have a chance to rule before it would be over anyway.

 

[Robin]

Obvious unconstitutional ruling, so blatant he should face a censure at the least and possible impeachment. Yeah, like that will happen out in lala land.
Robin

 

[Acer-m14]

I seen post on FB from brietbart (spelling) that is may get booted from the bench .. he has no say of the nation .. just his area ..

 

[GOPerfect]

The funny thing is, this is black letter law spelled out in the US Code. There is no room for disagreement. Seriously, no room at all. If and when this is blocked by a Judge, it proves that the judge either does not know US law, or he just does not care!


8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

 

[Gunright]

Trump should just withdraw the EO and create another one that blocks all (regardless of country) refugee and H1-B visa's until congress gives him explicit authority 'clarifying' the 1965 legislation.

With no cheap hi-tech labor coming in via the H1-B game, companies left and right across the nation will be pressuring their representatives to cooperate with Trump on this.

 

[spat]

Trump should just withdraw the EO and create another one that blocks all (regardless of country) refugee and H1-B visa's until congress gives him explicit authority 'clarifying' the 1965 legislation.

With no cheap hi-tech labor coming in via the H1-B game, companies left and right across the nation will be pressuring their representatives to cooperate with Trump on this.

No, that would just validate the lefts claims that he is overreaching.

 

[Dr. Evil]

BREAKING: 9th Circuit Court rules against Trump’s travel ban

These pricks are putting the "rights" of people who don't live here over US citizens. Ship their asses to one of those 7 countries.

 

[spat]

Is there anything preventing him from declaring a 90 day quarantine for anyone arriving from one of those countries ?

Ordering an "extremely extensive" search by customs, maybe one at takes a couple months to complete ?

 

[Robin]

Morning headlines should read: Nation Held Hostage as Activist Judge's Usurp Presidents' Constitutional Authority!
Robin

 

[ProgSpear]

EDT: Sorry, This was already posted by Goperfect in post #21 - somehow I missed it

It is instructive to read the law. From 8 U.S.C. § 1182(f)
8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.