Fightlite SCR Questions

[MHoncho]

Looking at a fightlite scr from a private seller. Was recommended by a trainer for carbine classes to comply with NYS.
These seem perpetually sold out making scarcity a driver of fomo.

anyone have experience with these?
Any reason they seem to be nowhere?

 

[dsdmmat]

I have 3 sitting in my safe
Mine are ARES branded (before they became fightlite). The appeal is they were sold as a 50 state compliant rifle which can use any AR upper.

the drawbacks are the lower receiver fire control parts are proprietary, so you cannot swap out parts for your favorite trigger. The recoil system is similar to a Remington 1100 shotgun, which makes tuning tricky. I just run at the gas port instead of the recoil system. The spare bolt carriers are 200 bucks each.

Overall a nice rifle. If you are looking for a purpose driven rifle that keeps you out of the “assault weapon” category the SCR is a great option. Traditional rifle stock with modular capabilities.

At one point customers were suggesting they a 308 lower, which would have been awesome but they never did. Missed opportunity in my opinion.

I like shooting mine, I just have so many options now that they rarely see the light of day.

As far as scarcity for a while they were only making a pistol version. They have so many other things they are making, like belt fed uppers for ARs. I don’t know the reason for the shortage other than keeping the prices high through limited production.

 

[Celt]

I had one years ago when it was Ares branded as well. Good rifle and bypasses the aw bs. I sold mine as I just didnt use it much.

 

[MHoncho]

Thank you both. I know rifle training classes in NYS are becoming more rare as it is a pain in the ass to navigate and ensure students have the right toolset. Sure, you can use one of their setups but they only have so many and there are other 'workarounds'. I have 3 ar platform rifles now but instructor said thordsen, although good, is not great for classes of this nature due to safety reach and mag release. not impossible, just recommended the SCR as their top choice. I have a mini 14 too but it is bone stock but i would likely sell that to fund this.

They are perpetually out of stock as of late which is always a nagging concern of how readily available parts will be. I am not trying to speculate on whether these become some niche collector thing in 50 years (i wont be here then anyway) so really just looking at the practicality for today.

the other option is save the $ and drive to ohio and PA where training can be done in a more free manner. Being in WNY neither are far from me.

 

[dsdmmat]

I had thought of posting one on here a month or so ago. Just never got around to it.

 

[Celt]

Thank you both. I know rifle training classes in NYS are becoming more rare as it is a pain in the ass to navigate and ensure students have the right toolset. Sure, you can use one of their setups but they only have so many and there are other 'workarounds'. I have 3 ar platform rifles now but instructor said thordsen, although good, is not great for classes of this nature due to safety reach and mag release. not impossible, just recommended the SCR as their top choice. I have a mini 14 too but it is bone stock but i would likely sell that to fund this.

They are perpetually out of stock as of late which is always a nagging concern of how readily available parts will be. I am not trying to speculate on whether these become some niche collector thing in 50 years (i wont be here then anyway) so really just looking at the practicality for today.

the other option is save the $ and drive to ohio and PA where training can be done in a more free manner. Being in WNY neither are far from me.

Training classes are definitely limited for semi auto rifles with the laws we are up against. Ive been looking for what my next training class will be come spring time and rifle classes are hard to find. Its understandable given the laws. Plenty of handgun and shotgun classes though. If ever i was looking for a rifle class id be looking out of state, but I no longer own any semi auto rifles.

 

[MHoncho]

Training classes are definitely limited for semi auto rifles with the laws we are up against. Ive been looking for what my next training class will be come spring time and rifle classes are hard to find. Its understandable given the laws. Plenty of handgun and shotgun classes though. If ever i was looking for a rifle class id be looking out of state, but I no longer own any semi auto rifles.

if you ever get out more west, bull creek has people in Erie/Niagara counties as well as Ontario counties. Well regarded, also offer private lessons which make it far easier to use a certain manual of arms.

the CMMG BR4 was another thought but i really need to just get the SCR, get some reps in, make decisions as my proficiency grows

 

[Vapor]

I hate to mention this, but have you considered a mini-14 until you can find one? I never ran one in a class, but both of mine have been pretty good.


I keep them only in case I want to visit friends/family in NY. I fixed all my ars after I moved.

 

[MHoncho]

I appreciate you mentioning that. I have a mini 14 unfired in the safe. Contemplated selling to fund the scr. I have a lead in one for 1100 shipped with 300 rounds through it.

worried about proprietary lower components with how long these things go out of stock for at a time.
I have fixed mag ar’s and featureless but for running classes the access to safety and mag release are so crucial.

im also exploring extended safety and mag release options to see if they can be “ergonomic” enough to not hold the class up.

 

[nortatoga]

For a mag release I went with the Troy Ind. ambidextrous you push out the roll pin and reverse the tab.

Ambi Magazine Release | TROY Industries

Ambi Magazine Release

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My SCR, Aero Precision handguard 19 in Green Mountain barrel

 

[MHoncho]

they really are good looking firearms. i need to just suck it up, check the couch cushions and pull the proverbial trigger, stop dragging my feet.

 

[dsdmmat]

1100 is not a bad deal. That is about what I would ask for any of mine.

 

[MHoncho]

He offered to split it and sell me the lower for 700 but if i jump it will be on the full setup.

appreciate you all!

 

[dsdmmat]

Yeah, if you just buy a lower you need to make sure it comes with the bolt carrier, or you will be buying one new from fightlite.
They ain’t cheep.

I bought a couple of new lowers from Ares and bought a couple of extra bolt carriers so I could swap uppers out. The last round bolt hold open is also an extra. It doesn’t come with the rifle or the lower. They were about 50 bucks each shipped.

 

[MHoncho]

Yeah, if you just buy a lower you need to make sure it comes with the bolt carrier, or you will be buying one new from fightlite.
They ain’t cheep.

I bought a couple of new lowers from Ares and bought a couple of extra bolt carriers so I could swap uppers out. The last round bolt hold open is also an extra. It doesn’t come with the rifle or the lower. They were about 50 bucks each shipped.

I am going to buy the full thing. I will save up to buy a spare BCG and any spare parts i can as they come up just to have a second. I know you can convert these to a bufferless system but i am not looking to buy a project, i want a reliable fire arm for classes. i know it is not the exact same manual of arms as an AR, but it is damn close (aside form cross bolt safety). It will at least get me putting reps in and not worrying about slowing a class down or who might be in the class picking apart if every little element is SAFE(less) Act compliant.

 

[nortatoga]

Your going to hate me, I picked mine up on Columbus day 2017. I had the day off and went out looking for just this rifle. Second shop bingo they were having a 15 year anniversary store wide sale 10% off. This was on the used gun rack, while filling out the paper work another employee went and grabbed the box the rifle came in with a hard case and an unopened 5 rd magazine, says this looks like it was never shot. And now the hate part I paid $599.00 for what you see in the photo!

 

[MHoncho]

i am more upset for taking an 11-year hiatus and coming back into the world as a newb all over. but damn, great price and that fire arm looks so nice, even in a free state i would buy one of these

 

[dsdmmat]

Your going to hate me, I picked mine up on Columbus day 2017. I had the day off and went out looking for just this rifle. Second shop bingo they were having a 15 year anniversary store wide sale 10% off. This was on the used gun rack, while filling out the paper work another employee went and grabbed the box the rifle came in with a hard case and an unopened 5 rd magazine, says this looks like it was never shot. And now the hate part I paid $599.00 for what you see in the photo!


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Does it have the horrible trigger or the upgraded one?