Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
responding police however, not so much due to ego.
Florida Fish and game warden knows and respects the law
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Fisherman guy sounds like a douche.
No, he does not just sound like a douche bag, he is a douche bag.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
He’s a douchbag for open carrying? Isn’t that what you like to do?
No, he is not a douchebag for his style of gun carry. He is a douche bag due to his actions.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The Fish and Wildlife cop thought different. He honored his oath.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
But as usual, that’s what is done around here. Attack people exercising their freedoms and ignore right’s violations.
And as usual, you make things up about what is and what is not said. I made no comment at all about any of the Officers. I commented on only the fisherman guy being and sounding like a douchebag.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And that’s the problem.
I know that is the problem, you consistently see words in these posts that do not exsist. You need to stay on point. Easier to have a discussion.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
On point you say? Isn’t the video about a Fish and Wildlife Police Officer respecting the law and city cops not respecting it?
Sorry, I took it from your comment that we were judging all participants.
The Fish cop did his job well, yep.
Fisherman guy is still a douche bag.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So are you a douchbag when you open carry your pistol off duty? Many would think so. But that isn’t the point.
It is legal for me to do it....
This guy is a douche bag due to his attitude and his serious lack of knowledge and the statements that he made throughout the video.
You can hero worship though, I do not mind.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It’s legal for him to do it as well. Man. Talk about hypocrisy.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And what was his serious lack of knowledge? Please be specific.
Again, I have zero issue with his carry options or the way he decides to carry.
And.... Again, you are reading but not understanding the simple words that I have used. It is almost as if you have a serious comprehension issue.
Nary a once did I comment on his guns or the way he carried them. I commented on his attitude and lack of knowledge and him being a douche bag.
No hypocrisy. You stated that others may see me as douche for open carry, I onl said it was legal for me to do so. Just like fisherdouche.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Explain lack of knowledge.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
You are correct about the douche lack of knowledge!
§ 78-115. Fireworks, weapons.
Latest version.
- No person shall carry, fire or discharge any weapon or any rocket, torpedo or fireworks of any description in any park, recreational facility or department managed lands without a permit from the department except in areas designated for such purpose.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
I see nothing wrong with what the fisherman did. If he was or was not a douche is up for interpretation. (As long as he hasn’t broken the law he’s good to go). He knew the law and exercise his 2nd amendment. People are going based on their emotions and calling cops every time someone open carries. LAW ENFORCEMENT not FEELING ENFORCEMENT. Just because it seem odd or weird doesn’t make it illegal. If more people keep calling the cops every time someone open carries the 2nd amendment will be gone. First they’ll ban open carry then make sure for every firearm you have a permit, then “need special cause to purchase any firearm”
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You are correct about the douche lack of knowledge!
§ 78-115. Fireworks, weapons.
Latest version.
(Ord. No. 08-12, § 31, 4-22-08; Ord. No. 2010-08, § 1, 3-23-10)
- No person shall carry, fire or discharge any weapon or any rocket, torpedo or fireworks of any description in any park, recreational facility or department managed lands without a permit from the department except in areas designated for such purpose.
That county ordinance was superseded by this state law passed in 2010. This isn’t his first rodeo on this. He also has a case against Tampa.
FREEMAN v. CITY OF TAMPA | Case No.... | 20151208g34 | Leagle.com
ORDER JAMES S. MOODY Jr. District Judge. THIS CAUSE comes before the Court upon Defendants Amended Motion to Dismiss Dkt. 11...20151208g34
www.leagle.com
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
The douche was not charged under the County ordinance! But State statute 810.08 and 810.09
statelaws.findlaw.com
Take careful look at the class 3 felony! Yup not his first rodeo but no 8 second qualified ride for him!!
Florida Criminal Trespass Laws - FindLaw
FindLaw's legal primer on the criminal trespass laws of Florida.
statelaws.findlaw.com
Take careful look at the class 3 felony! Yup not his first rodeo but no 8 second qualified ride for him!!
| Elements and Penalties | Class 2 Misdemeanor
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Trespass in a Conveyance in Florida
In Florida, the crime of Trespass in a Conveyance is committed when a person willfully enters or remains in a conveyance without being authorized, licensed, or invited or refuses to exit after being asked by an owner to do so.
www.richardhornsby.com
I don't think he's a douchebag for exercising his rights...
I think there's narrative that's excluded from this.
So based upon this, and the fact that he wasn't even fishing (yet) leaves me to assume he went there and catered his activity in order to illicit the police response that was recieved. It may be that he is even "known" and has had encounters there before. Of course, more assumption. It's ok, because none of us where there, and all opinions are then valid!
I've been trespassed in Florida, and no matter how many northerners move there, is still a shit hole back-woods redneck State! And the police will use any and every trick in the book to do, get what they want. This guy, in my opinion, is lucky the encounter didn't turn negative.
There's some takes from this though...
He never asked the question if he is being detained! If not, then ok, grab a pole and fish!
His companions, really didn't need to follow unlawful orders to be taken away and questioned. That's some BS right there. No criminal activity, there's nothing to ask. I would have refused to move away from the cameras...
Any order to vacate, would also be unlawful. But once they got him out of the spot, and up to the parking lot, they trespassed him, lmao! By the officers proclamation, they can trespass anyone for any reason? Hahaha, ok!
What would they do? Forcibly remove him?
For failure to come with an unlawful order to disperse or leave a public place for innocuous activity that may have tickled someone's backside because he had a gun?
It is Florida after all, so again, there's something here that's missing... Definitely!
But whatever, Florida is what it is... Couldn't give a fuck!
I think there's narrative that's excluded from this.
So based upon this, and the fact that he wasn't even fishing (yet) leaves me to assume he went there and catered his activity in order to illicit the police response that was recieved. It may be that he is even "known" and has had encounters there before. Of course, more assumption. It's ok, because none of us where there, and all opinions are then valid!
I've been trespassed in Florida, and no matter how many northerners move there, is still a shit hole back-woods redneck State! And the police will use any and every trick in the book to do, get what they want. This guy, in my opinion, is lucky the encounter didn't turn negative.
There's some takes from this though...
He never asked the question if he is being detained! If not, then ok, grab a pole and fish!
His companions, really didn't need to follow unlawful orders to be taken away and questioned. That's some BS right there. No criminal activity, there's nothing to ask. I would have refused to move away from the cameras...
Any order to vacate, would also be unlawful. But once they got him out of the spot, and up to the parking lot, they trespassed him, lmao! By the officers proclamation, they can trespass anyone for any reason? Hahaha, ok!
What would they do? Forcibly remove him?
For failure to come with an unlawful order to disperse or leave a public place for innocuous activity that may have tickled someone's backside because he had a gun?
It is Florida after all, so again, there's something here that's missing... Definitely!
But whatever, Florida is what it is... Couldn't give a fuck!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
He’s one of many first and second amendment auditors that go around the state doing this. Sometimes a whole group of them go around doing this to test if the police will honor their oaths and protect their rights.
www.wptv.com
www.orlandosentinel.com
Open carry advocates go fishing with guns
A group of open carry gun enthusiasts had a well-armed visit to Miami Beach on Saturday.
www.wptv.com
Armed group goes fishing off Florida pier to highlight open carry laws
Members of a group called Florida Carry spent a Saturday fishing off a pier in Miami Beach, but with guns holstered on hips or slung around shoulders. Video of the event from WPTV showed a peaceful…
www.orlandosentinel.com
Paxal
.223 Rem
Sounding like a Dbag and being a D bag are two very different things. That LT doesn’t “sound” like a Dbag, but he acts like one. Which is worse, a guy protecting/fighting for his rights who sounds like a Dbag, or a guy who violates the rights of a citizen and breaks his oath of service, but “sounds” like a good guy?
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
LT is a little bitch
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Really Doc!
Lets choreograph this video shell we!
The LT asked the douche to turn off his camera, the douche refused right?
The douche says I'm not doing anything wrong, I know the law!! I can open carry while fishing!
Game Warden is called he agree's the douche can open carry while fishing! ( but he knows what is going on! )
But in the mean time, since the Court Case of Freeman and the Miami Pier open carry fisherman, 810.08 and 810.09 was enacted in 2019 ( which I posted above! )
So now the douche is facing a Felony Trespass, But he knew the Law!!
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Class 2 Misdemeanor
- Willfully enters or remains in any structure or conveyance
- Without being authorized, licensed, or invited
- Is warned by the owner, lessee, or authorized person
- To depart and refuses to do so
- All the elements of a Class 2 misdemeanor are met; and
- A person was present in the structure or property when the offender trespassed, attempted to trespass, or was in the structure or property
- All the elements of a Class 1 misdemeanor are met; and
- Offender is armed with a firearm or other dangerous weapon
And some here think a Cop being videoed can just let a Felony walk away?
So to back track douche turn off the camera, Law 810.08 and 810.09 makes me charge you with a Felony!
spat
.700 Nitro Express
A professional is not going to violate someone's rights just because they are a dick.
Also, you can be a 2A advocate *and* be an asshole at the same time. The 2 qualities are independent.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
1. The douchbag lieutenant had no right to tell him to turn off his camera. That’s a 1A violation right there.
2. As I posted above, open carrying while fishing has been legal since 2010 despite county ordinances.
3. You cannot be trespassed from public property for conducting a legal activity if no crime is committed. From private property you can but not from public property.
As usual you side with right’s violations despite the actual law that I have shown you. Your trespass posting BS is just that. BS.