But, they do not know how bad the tip is going to be until AFTER I am served. If they are going to funk with the food, it will make no nevermind if I tip or not.
FUAC Proposal To Eliminate Tip Credit !
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But, they do not know how bad the tip is going to be until AFTER I am served. If they are going to funk with the food, it will make no nevermind if I tip or not.
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This has turned into a very fun thread.
I have never sent food back.
Neither did those poor bastards
If we continue this scam of tipping, all we do is let the owners off the hook. They should be paying these employees, not you and I.
America's tipping system -- practiced here, and pretty much nowhere else -- is no bueno for customers & servers, but it helps restaurants run low overhead. The cultural practice of tipping allows restaurant owners to unfairly transfer risk to the servers, because they make their money (on the bill) without paying their workforce a real wage. That part is up to the customer's subjective assessment of the server's performance.
Fuck it, this has convinced me to stop tipping all together.
From here on out, no more tips will come from me!!!!!
America's tipping system -- practiced here, and pretty much nowhere else -- is no bueno for customers & servers, but it helps restaurants run low overhead. The cultural practice of tipping allows restaurant owners to unfairly transfer risk to the servers, because they make their money (on the bill) without paying their workforce a real wage. That part is up to the customer's subjective assessment of the server's performance.
Fuck it, this has convinced me to stop tipping all together.
From here on out, no more tips will come from me!!!!!
Whether you start leaving 0% tips is up to you. I can't make you do it, and I will do just this myself. But that's the point -- an employee's take-home pay shouldn't be up to you, or me, or anyone other than his/her employer. When we tip, we intend to do right by the people handling our food, but we're actually just entrenching a system that takes advantage of them. We're screwing everything up.
I'm a generous tipper, but deductions start as soon as I am seated. Women, especially attractive ones will get extra credit.
These people that do this job do work for tips, I'll take care of them as long as they give me great service. Act like a ditz and I start subtracting. Keep the vino coming until I say stop. I know they have several other tables to take care of but I want to be treated like I am your only table, the good ones know how to do this for every table they're working, I like that, you will get credit from me. Smile and make it a pleasant dinner experience, nobody wants a cranky wench.
Sorry but dudes, I'm gonna have to start you low and you have to work extra hard to impress me, is that sexist?
These people that do this job do work for tips, I'll take care of them as long as they give me great service. Act like a ditz and I start subtracting. Keep the vino coming until I say stop. I know they have several other tables to take care of but I want to be treated like I am your only table, the good ones know how to do this for every table they're working, I like that, you will get credit from me. Smile and make it a pleasant dinner experience, nobody wants a cranky wench.
Sorry but dudes, I'm gonna have to start you low and you have to work extra hard to impress me, is that sexist?
Tipping in America: How To Do It and What To Expect If You Don’t | BBC America
9. What’s likely to happen if I don’t tip?
This depends. Explain to the manager why you’re not tipping and, so long as your reason is their poor service and not your moral objection to tipping, you’ll probably get a gracious response. They may even take money off your bill. If, however, you skulk off without tipping, don’t be surprised if wait staff chase after you and demand an explanation.
Yeah, go ahead and chase me down demanding an answer, I promise it will not go well for you!!!
9. What’s likely to happen if I don’t tip?
This depends. Explain to the manager why you’re not tipping and, so long as your reason is their poor service and not your moral objection to tipping, you’ll probably get a gracious response. They may even take money off your bill. If, however, you skulk off without tipping, don’t be surprised if wait staff chase after you and demand an explanation.
Yeah, go ahead and chase me down demanding an answer, I promise it will not go well for you!!!
One other thing...
I never get tipped. F'em!
I never get tipped. F'em!
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You have a choices to make:
1. Don't eat out. After all, the rest of us are apparently taking up the slack for you.
2. Insist on changing the system so that servers, bus boys, and hostesses are all paid the ever-increasing minimum wage. Then...do not complain when the price of the food is increased in order to cover the labor costs of YOUR insistence on raising labor rates.
3. Continue to pay lip service to the issue and screwing the people who are working for you in restaurants.
When I waited tables (for several summers), I would have considered you to have been, at best, "a verbal tip." You'd be the kind of person that says, "Good job..." and then left nothing significant on the table.
If you are already willing to pay a higher price for the food, which you must be since you are insistent that restaurant labor costs be increased, then why not just leave the money as a tip for the server (if they did their job properly)?
Keep in mind, few people will really be willing to wait tables for minimum wage. The job sucks. Waiters have to deal with all kinds of assholes on a regular basis. They run their asses off, if they're good, for the entire shift.
Therefore, if you want most food in our state to be commensurate with the prices charged in Manhattan (and in Europe), then stand firm in insisting on raising wages for waiters and eliminate tipping.
If you continue to stiff waiters that are not paid well (aside from tips), and you know that your "principled stand" puts no money in their pockets, then you're just selfish.
BTW - I did chase down a few poor tippers (right into the mall where the restaurant was). I never expected them to give me any additional money. But, I took some satisfaction in embarrassing them in front of those around them. Sure, I had to take the management's admonition when some of the people subsequently complained. But, I was one of the better waiters and they didn't want to lose me in peak season.
1. To be honest, I don't go out that often. I am very cheap.
2. I am going to do nothing to change the system simply because I do not care enough to really get involved. I'll just continue to buck the system.
3. I do not know these servers, so I do not care about them. I know that may sound harsh, but unless someone is in my circle, I just can't care. I did not tell them to take this type of work.
I waited tables for a decent amount of time in the past. Some of the hardest work I ever did.
Oh, I am pretty selfish, BTW. I live pretty much, One dog, one bone.
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I always tip the server, its the only way to get that last cup of coffee out of it with all the grounds, its the best! Yeah baby!!
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Are you having a stroke or something?
You know there is a delete button right?
Huh, it works.... I just deleted the last one!
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I always delete my best postings.
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Sorry man, wasn't me!
As for the rest of this thread, I am torn.
I think that anytime .GOV gets involved things will get EFed up. I believe that to set a minimum wage is a big problem in our society. I agree with the Folks here who said; let the market set the wage. If it is a well sought after trade, the market will set the wages higher. On the other hand, if it is a trade where anyone with a pulse can do it, the market will set that wage as well. Doing anything other than letting the companies hire based upon the labor pool is just bullshit. Trust me... if the job is worth $3, $5, $10 or $15/hr... they'll get it, if it is worth $30/hr, that's what they will have to hire at! It really is that simple!
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I'm a generous tipper, but deductions start as soon as I am seated. Women, especially attractive ones will get extra credit.
These people that do this job do work for tips, I'll take care of them as long as they give me great service. Act like a ditz and I start subtracting. Keep the vino coming until I say stop. I know they have several other tables to take care of but I want to be treated like I am your only table, the good ones know how to do this for every table they're working, I like that, you will get credit from me. Smile and make it a pleasant dinner experience, nobody wants a cranky wench.
Sorry but dudes, I'm gonna have to start you low and you have to work extra hard to impress me, is that sexist?
Yeah, what number is it I can't see it