Gun shop owners struggle during ammo shortage

[Deplorable Me]

Gun shop owners struggle during ammo shortage

In an election year with protests happening across the country, gun sales are on the rise nationwide. But an ammunition shortage has left gun shop owners in Montana in a tough spot.

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Hey looters, rioters, leftist, democrats, Marxists , Commies and all you incremental opportunist gun grabbers, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW.

 

[dsdmmat]

The shop less than 5 minutes from my house has more than 30 ARs on the shelf. No 223 though They had 50 cases of 22 Ammo when I bought one. have not been there in a couple of days, not sure what they still have.

 

[Gonzobird]

Yeah it is tough.

Distributor prices are selling at MSRP. I am not even bothering to order any. I have been telling people to order it and ship to me or buy it as they can find it. Last guy who I ordered ammo paid $630 for it. That was 1000 rounds of 5.56. I told him the price and figuring he would get bent out of shape and he just paid it.This weekend after packing to go to camp I took a look at my personal stash and said “Well shit, I better do some ordering...”

Dont worry this will all be over in November...

 

[Chevusa]

I need about 850 rounds of either 40 or 45 for my firearm qualification coming up. I was on about 10 sites last night. All either sold out or asking prices of around $1 a round.

I might have to go to my LGS and see what they got and just buy 1 box a day because that’s what you’re limited to. Not sure what I’ll do. I should probably dump my ammo can and start counting.

 

[Uzi]

Yup, makes sense.
I've been wanting to buy another handgun too, but why would I when I can't find any ammo to use it anywhere? It's almost stupid I think to delve into my limited supply of ammo during a pandemic crisis. As much as I want to continue training and refining shooting skills, the ammo shortage is forcing me away from firearms until there is a recovery in supply.

 

[GOPerfect]

Were they struggling and complaining when their product was flying off the shelves?

 

[GOPerfect]

I need about 850 rounds of either 40 or 45 for my firearm qualification coming up. I was on about 10 sites last night. All either sold out or asking prices of around $1 a round.

I might have to go to my LGS and see what they got and just buy 1 box a day because that’s what you’re limited to. Not sure what I’ll do. I should probably dump my ammo can and start counting.

Why do you need so many rounds for qualification????

 

[Chevusa]

Why do you need so many rounds for qualification????

Part of the 47 hour course. Most of it takes place on the range.

 

[GOPerfect]

Part of the 47 hour course. Most of it takes place on the range.

Wow, that is a lot.

 

[Chevusa]

Wow, that is a lot.

It's 7 hours of Article 35 instruction and 40 hours of range instruction/qualification from what I've read.

 

[GOPerfect]

It's 7 hours of Article 35 instruction and 40 hours of range instruction/qualification from what I've read.

Yeah. That is correct. When I did the 47 hour course for work, we might have gone through 400 rounds, the 850 just seems high to me.

 

[Chevusa]

Yeah. That is correct. When I did the 47 hour course for work, we might have gone through 400 rounds, the 850 just seems high to me.

I'm sure some courses do less but this guy want's to make a shooter out of you. He said each person will have an instructor beside them the whole time.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Were they struggling and complaining when their product was flying off the shelves?

Poor Buffalo Gun Center owners. They missed the boat.

 

[Chevusa]

Poor Buffalo Gun Center owners. They missed the boat.

I had the same thought. If only they stayed open a little longer. They would have been cleaned out!

 

[Chevusa]

I miss BGC. Great store. Nobody was ever a dick to me on there. In fact I found the people that I spoke with to be very helpful. It was just that old school gun shop that you don't really see anymore. And boy what an inventory they had. You could just go in and look as shit for an hour.

 

[togmaster]

Why do you need so many rounds for qualification????

He misses a lot.

 

[Phazer]

It's 7 hours of Article 35 instruction.

That's nuts!

Article 35 is not difficult to read and understand on your own. 7 hours for someone to say, "Defend people from imminent harm. Do not defend property with lethal force" seems really excessive.

 

[BDinPutnam]

He misses a lot.

Oh I thought it was because he was going to conspicuously strap like 8 guns on.

 

[GOPerfect]

That's nuts!

Article 35 is not difficult to read and understand on your own. 7 hours for someone to say, "Defend people from imminent harm. Do not defend property with lethal force" seems really excessive.

When Police officers go through their initial training, we go into very deep detail of Article 35. When I went through the academy, our class was just over eight hours. We had breaks, but still 8 hours. When we go through our yearly qualification, we re-visit A35 for right about two hours.

 

[Chevusa]

That's nuts!

Article 35 is not difficult to read and understand on your own. 7 hours for someone to say, "Defend people from imminent harm. Do not defend property with lethal force" seems really excessive.

They get into it pretty deep. Not all is as it appears on the surface. Also there is more liability when working in the public and more situations to get into when not only worrying about defending yourself. You have more of a duty to stay and fight if you're hired to protect someone where if it's just you out for an ice cream cone you can run away.

Also a big part of it is if you have to use your weapon, there is likely to be an attorney who will want you to testify to the fact that you were trained/certified and you will need to explain your training in court. It's going to sound a lot better that you've received extensive training rather than say "yea I read A35 online once"!

 

[GOPerfect]

That's nuts!

Article 35 is not difficult to read and understand on your own. 7 hours for someone to say, "Defend people from imminent harm. Do not defend property with lethal force" seems really excessive.

They instruct on the inner workings of the Article. They instruct on the history, the court cases that guided the changes over the years and so on.

 

[spat]

That's nuts!

Article 35 is not difficult to read and understand on your own. 7 hours for someone to say, "Defend people from imminent harm. Do not defend property with lethal force" seems really excessive.

It should be that simple based on the text.

But instruction in how that text is interpreted would have to include sections for every jurisdiction in NY.

Art 35 will be applied very differently in Allegany than it will in Westchester. And currently it will be applied very differently depending on the relative pigmentation of the participants.

 

[Podmonkey]

"......Shortage of primers, the part of the part of the bullet that initiates combustion......"
Yup, just smack a primers onto the bulletand that's all you need, no case, no powder, none of that jazz.
Ah, stupid normies.

 

[Briwesk85]

I’m down in Tennessee right now, and went to about 6 local gun stores around Nashville/cookville, and almost all are wiped out of 9mm, 223 and 5.56. I went to two academy sports and found plenty of 5.56 at $8.32 for a box of 20, so I was very happy about that.

 

[Jsmegs77]

I can’t find .223 to save my life locally. I’ve never seen so much .30-06, .45-70 and assorted 7mm rounds, though. Guess I know what calibers I’m picking up next...

 

[Shadow2]

Were they struggling and complaining when their product was flying off the shelves?

Took he words out of my mouth. They already cashed in for the year. What are they struggling to do? Pay off the vacation home with boat house?

 

[Podmonkey]

Took he words out of my mouth. They already cashed in for the year. What are they struggling to do? Pay off the vacation home with boat house?

Not how it works, that's not how the supply chain works. These gunstores don't have a year's or a month's worth of ammo sitting in stock.
Whatever supply they had they sold and its not going to cover expenses indefinitely meanwhile they aren't able to restock at a normal rate.
I bet that for the local stores ammo revenues are down overall. Not to mention the loss of customers they can no longer service who will turn elsewhere.

 

[Vapor]

This is how most of the gun shops in my area are reacting...

 

[Varmint]

I have reloaded since I was 10 years old...my pop would bring home a 100 pounds of 06 every time he came back from a match...every time I pulled that lever it sounded like a cash register...today it’s 556 and 7.62$$$ the only rounds I load hot is the 220 swift or 225 Winchester , the only rounds that run better at primer flattening pressures...I’m old there might be other calibers that like it hot

 

[Deplorable Me]

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