Hey folks. Moving to NYS soon.

CaseHardened

CaseHardened

.450/400 Nitro Ex
U.S. Military
Messages
12,125
Reaction score
12,272
Location
Danvers, MA
Jcp123 said:
I doubt that, but there’s still a lot of papering.

NY is exclusively for family reasons. Since I’m not really into the most modern tacticool stuff, I don’t actually possess anything which I currently understand as prohibited, but it will still take a bit of papering to bring my stuff.

I’m mostly interested in smokeless firearms from their advent in the 1880s until basically the end of the battle rifle in the 1950s. There’s not much which puts me at odds with “SAFE” Act provisions, though I don’t quite know how they interact in some edge cases.

Article 35 sounds like it’s worth deeper reading, though.
Click to expand...

"FAMILY REASONS" ?

I moved from a wonderful full acre, large, brand new home, in a nearly rural community, to a rundown 1960's slab house, built on a postage stamp, so the missus could be near her folks.

Then they died (may they rest in peace), and I can never return.
 
Jcp123

Jcp123

.357 mag
Messages
702
Reaction score
909
Location
Rochester-ish
CaseHardened said:
"FAMILY REASONS" ?

I moved from a wonderful full acre, large, brand new home, in a nearly rural community, to a rundown 1960's slab house, built on a postage stamp, so the missus could be near her folks.

Then they died (may they rest in peace), and I can never return.
Click to expand...

Is what it is. I got a good delay, those who want to talk me out of it have about as much ammo in the pouch as I do.
 
Spero1468

Spero1468

22lr
Messages
24
Reaction score
27
Location
NY
Jcp123 said:
Hello all. This seems to be the place I need! A bit about me: I’m a mid-30s family guy, and an over the road truck driver. I’m born and raised in California, but didn’t get into guns until I moved to Texas when I was 20. Cars are my real passion, and while I will admit I am, at heart, a desert rat and would make my home there, we are going to be moving to the Rochester area at some point for family reasons. While I understand some basics about the legal structure there, I’m confused enough that I don’t even completely know what to ask. Lurking a little bit here and elsewhere, it’s kind of hard to get a grasp on it. My only experience with owning firearms, as I said, has been in Texas, which is pretty close to being as libertarian as it gets as far as the law is concerned. Half the guns I have bought or sold have been in parking lots with zero paperwork involved. I’m not a super gun nut - cars take that place in my life - but I have started to think about a small C&R collection at some point, along with keeping the kinda strange little pile of guns I have already, so I might as well get on the legal side of that.

Anyhow, I look forward to chatting with you and getting to know the community!

PS - any way to switch out of mobile view? It doesn’t play nice on my phone.
Click to expand...

Please stay far away from here. Pennsylvania or NH a better choice if you must come to this region. We have a pompous, arrogant, 2A hating clown shoe for a governor. If you must come be mindful of the county you choose as well as it district attorney!
 
F

fresch

.338 Win Mag
Messages
9,370
Reaction score
12,334
Location
Syracuse
Even if the Feds bailed out ny the taxes will go up and the deficits will continue growing.
Perhaps if you must buy land pour a slab, drill a well put septic in, power, and live in a rv; should be less tax property wise.
Only all permits and anything the state has its fingers in, gas tax, road tax, etc. will be going up.
Cigarettes cost $10 a pack ~$6 is tax yet at the register they tax you 8% on the tax too!
 
Jcp123

Jcp123

.357 mag
Messages
702
Reaction score
909
Location
Rochester-ish
Spero1468 said:
Please stay far away from here. Pennsylvania or NH a better choice if you must come to this region. We have a pompous, arrogant, 2A hating clown shoe for a governor. If you must come be mindful of the county you choose as well as it district attorney!
Click to expand...

Is what it is. If I had my own way, I’d be in the desert where gun rights are awesome, but I wouldn’t do it just for gun rights. There’s other things at play, so I have to operate within that sphere. I’m here to understand how to do so.
 
Jchrisls

Jchrisls

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
1,678
Reaction score
2,718
Location
Incognito
ArmedCorgi said:
No concern at all. Semi-auto's and hand guns are the big thing. If it's semi-auto and has a detachable mag, it cannot have any features (pistol grip, adjustable stock, muzzle device, bayonet lug, Etc.). If it is semi-auto with a fixed mag (sks) it is good to go. With handguns, there is a whole process you have to go through. I don't know if they make an exception for people moving here but included in the application process is the requirement to have 4 character references whom you've know for 4 or 5 years. Each county has slightly different add on requirements, but the basic application is the same state wide. The length of time it takes to get you pistol permit varies from county to county. If you do have pistols you'd like to bring into ny, you'd have to keep them either out of state with an ffl or relative, or a nys ffl that is willing to hold them until you get your permit. At which time, you'd have to have them sent to an ffl in nys to do the transfer, then you'd have to take the transfer paperwork to your county clerk permit office and have your permit amended so that it lists all the handguns. Then you'd take your amended permit and purchase coupon back to the ffl that is holding your guns and they will then give them to you.
Click to expand...
Know this is an older thread and post but wanted to post a small correction. Your references ( for Monroe county) must have known you for a minimum of 3 years. Have the permit applied in hand, and stated on it. Playing the waiting game myself.
 
Chevusa

Chevusa

.338 Win Mag
Messages
6,718
Reaction score
7,645
Location
Erie
Not sure how they can enforce that. They are effectively saying you must live in the state for 3 years before you may get a permit. This needs to be challenged. I suspect if you raised a big enough stink they would just stand down and give in on the 3 year requirement.
 
Jchrisls

Jchrisls

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
1,678
Reaction score
2,718
Location
Incognito
My issue isn't with being a resident of NYS for 3 years, I'm well beyond that by decades, but having 4 references from within the county I live in that have known me for 3 years. Sure, one could hire an attorney, layout tons of $$$, potentially lose and just be back at square one, or just wait a few months more, apply and wait for the process to play out instead. I've chosen the latter.
 
Chevusa

Chevusa

.338 Win Mag
Messages
6,718
Reaction score
7,645
Location
Erie
In your specific case - sure.

In general the 3 year rule violates the licensing requirements in the penal law and effectively prevents people from obtaining a license for 3 years that have just moved here. That is not prescribed for within the law.

A lawyer would probably not be needed if you raised a stink. It's not a battle they'll want to fight.
 
Jchrisls

Jchrisls

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
1,678
Reaction score
2,718
Location
Incognito
Chevusa said:
In your specific case - sure.

In general the 3 year rule violates the licensing requirements in the penal law and effectively prevents people from obtaining a license for 3 years that have just moved here. That is not prescribed for within the law.

A lawyer would probably not be needed if you raised a stink. It's not a battle they'll want to fight.
Click to expand...
I'm good with waiting. Not too much longer anyway. Feburary for me. Paperwork in hand, no worries. Waiting is actually beneficial in my situation.
 
ArmedCorgi

ArmedCorgi

.475 A&M Magnum
Messages
14,420
Reaction score
22,629
Location
Utahardia
Jchrisls said:
Know this is an older thread and post but wanted to post a small correction. Your references ( for Monroe county) must have known you for a minimum of 3 years. Have the permit applied in hand, and stated on it. Playing the waiting game myself.
Click to expand...
And for Rensselaer county it's 5 years. From Rensselaer county's pistol permit instructions: "You will need four (4) character references. All references must live in the Capital District, be at least 21 years of age, not related to you, and known to you for at least five (5) years. References residing outside NYS are not acceptable. . They must PRINT their information in the appropriate boxes, clearly print their zip code and sign their names."

Pistol Permits – Rensselaer County

www.rensco.com www.rensco.com

Maybe I misrepresented what I was originally trying to convey. My point was that about the only thing that is the same state wide is the application. Each county is different. Some counties want to access your social media accounts, some want you to meet with a judge, some want you to meet with an officer, some don't, Etc., Etc..
 
Jchrisls

Jchrisls

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
1,678
Reaction score
2,718
Location
Incognito
ArmedCorgi said:
And for Rensselaer county it's 5 years. From Rensselaer county's pistol permit instructions: "You will need four (4) character references. All references must live in the Capital District, be at least 21 years of age, not related to you, and known to you for at least five (5) years. References residing outside NYS are not acceptable. . They must PRINT their information in the appropriate boxes, clearly print their zip code and sign their names."

Maybe I misrepresented what I was originally trying to convey. My point was that about the only thing that is the same state wide is the application. Each county is different. Some counties want to access your social media accounts, some want you to meet with a judge, some want you to meet with an officer, some don't, Etc., Etc..
Click to expand...
Yeah its funny that way. I understand. Originally from erie county, and its different from Erie to Monroe. Wait time is vastly different across counties also. My understanding is that pre covid, monroe was running anywhere from 6-10 months. Conversely, I was told Allegheny County could be as fast as 6 weeks. NYC, well, probably never.
 
ArmedCorgi

ArmedCorgi

.475 A&M Magnum
Messages
14,420
Reaction score
22,629
Location
Utahardia
Jchrisls said:
Yeah its funny that way. I understand. Originally from erie county, and its different from Erie to Monroe. Wait time is vastly different across counties also. My understanding is that pre covid, monroe was running anywhere from 6-10 months. Conversely, I was told Allegheny County could be as fast as 6 weeks. NYC, well, probably never.
Click to expand...
Oh man, it's total bullshit any way you slice it and just like every gun law they pass in this state, it's confusing and nonsensical. Where are you in the process?
 
Jchrisls

Jchrisls

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
1,678
Reaction score
2,718
Location
Incognito
ArmedCorgi said:
Oh man, it's total bullshit any way you slice it and just like every gun law they pass in this state, it's confusing and nonsensical. Where are you in the process?
Click to expand...
Pre application. Have to wait out reference requirements ( 3 years, only known people in county 2 1/2). Patience is a virtue I guess.
 
TEOTWAWKI inc.

TEOTWAWKI inc.

.338 Win Mag
Messages
8,333
Reaction score
16,850
Location
Liberty Tavern, U.S.A.
I didn't read the whole thread - didn't have to.

Sorry for your dad's health issues, but seriously reconsider moving here. Seriously. Worst state in the union and no chance of it getting better. Even with guns off the table, I really wouldn't move here, and regret coming back every day. You will regret it as well.

Leave your freedom and rights at the border, they are not allowed here.
 
Drinkthekoolaid

Drinkthekoolaid

.475 A&M Magnum
U.S. Military
Messages
17,400
Reaction score
31,030
Location
Unfortunately, NY
Jcp123 said:
Yeah. Thanks. Found out a couple of days ago that on top of his AFib, he has esophageal cancer, stage 3. So that’s not going to turn out well. Needless to say, I am pretty firmly anchored here for the time being.
Click to expand...

Sorry man. It sounds like you have a lot of stress.

Try to keep a positive mental outlook on things. I know easier said than done some days, but hang in there.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top