Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Hochul signs New York space heater safety bill into law
It comes nearly a year after the Bronx fire started by one.
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Hochul bans certain space heaters
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jimc
.223 Rem
No one needs an electric space heater to kill a deer!!!
Sorry, got a little emotional there.
Sorry, got a little emotional there.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
I fail to see how a thermostat or an "automatic shutoff" prevents fires. Like most drivel they write and do not define, what is an automatic shutoff? Are we shutting it off if it gets knocked over or shutting it off after X hours of use? Is a thermostat not technically an "automatic shutoff"
The heaters need to be certified by a body recognized by DOL and OSHA? Wait, what? DOL and OSHA regulate the workplace not the heaters in your house. OSHA specifically will not approve anything or any procedure. The only people that certify heaters are UL or ETL.
I swear they just make shit up.
The heaters need to be certified by a body recognized by DOL and OSHA? Wait, what? DOL and OSHA regulate the workplace not the heaters in your house. OSHA specifically will not approve anything or any procedure. The only people that certify heaters are UL or ETL.
I swear they just make shit up.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
OH GOD....Just what we need...another law to keep us safe from ourselves..........My God..Stop trying to keep me safe NY and give me freedom...the noose tightens even more......if a moron wants to use something unsafely let natural selection weed them out my god..........
Hochulsucks1234
.44 mag
I feel so much safer already...
You hit the nail on the head. They need to protect these morons to preserve their voting base.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Hell, even Adolph Hitler didn't regulate your heat.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
I hope my toaster is not on the list....
another item not on the list..my propane torpedo heater....I plan to put that in a small space and sleep there as now it will be heated...
I wont wake up but I guess thats my problem.....SHE didnt tell me I couldnt or BAN me from doing it?!!!!!!
just rediculous.....
another item not on the list..my propane torpedo heater....I plan to put that in a small space and sleep there as now it will be heated...
I wont wake up but I guess thats my problem.....SHE didnt tell me I couldnt or BAN me from doing it?!!!!!!
just rediculous.....
ManualF150
.308 Win
NY State Senate Bill 2021-S7863A
Requires electric space heaters to have thermostats, automatic shut-offs and be certified by a testing and certification body recognized and approved by the United States department of labor, occupational safety and health administration.
This bill does absolutely nothing. I repair electronics on the side and I've seen where the bimetallic fuses get stuck thus causing a run away anyhow. Especially if the heater was kept in a garage or damp environment. They generally have a bimetallic and a one-time-shot thermal fuse, but it depends how it's designed. Along with whatever furnishing was in front of the heater. So cutoffs might not do anything at all.
Another primary cause of space heater fires is the use of light duty extension cords, surge strips or incorrect gauge wiring in the walls. They are NOT designed for the current. So it's not the space heater that caused the fire, it was in this case in proper equipment used to power the space heater.
I also treat space heaters as mini fires.... they are to be kept under constant watch at all times.
wizrd
6.5 Creedmoor
Governor Hochul has hinted somewhere that she wanted 'something for her bath' for Christmas. I'm sending her a toaster.
JRtraderny
.308 Win
Well she just cleared the shelves in Lowes and Home Depot . Here's a clue quit buying and selling crap made in CHINA !!Hochul signs New York space heater safety bill into law
It comes nearly a year after the Bronx fire started by one.
Yet another BS law that will do nothing. Sucks that people died in the fire, I do not know any of them so they do not matter to me. I do not use these types of heaters so this law will not affect me at all.
Not the point. If they are going to ban one thing that may or may not save a life, they need to ban just about every product sold today.
Knives have killed, gonna ban them? Automobiles kill a lot of people, everyday... Gonna ban them?
You can force people into being smart and safe by banning products. People are stupid. People have been stupid and careless since the beginning of time. This level of stupidity will continue as long as people roam the Earth.
This kind of living cannot be legislated.
Not the point. If they are going to ban one thing that may or may not save a life, they need to ban just about every product sold today.
Knives have killed, gonna ban them? Automobiles kill a lot of people, everyday... Gonna ban them?
You can force people into being smart and safe by banning products. People are stupid. People have been stupid and careless since the beginning of time. This level of stupidity will continue as long as people roam the Earth.
This kind of living cannot be legislated.
fnfalguy
.308 Win
If they really cared, show some balls. Ban alcohol.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
If they would allow our energy system work as it should and provide us with low cost energy ..A space heater would not be needed. Keep closing our natural gas pipelines .. This is what happens.
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
with a stone cold botox face
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I just do whatever I want. Life is so much better this way.
Why not ban cigarettes? There are probably thousands of fires every year because people are careless with them.
Electric space heaters won't matter much in the near future once all the new construction requiring electric appliances happens and the grids go down from overuse.
Electric space heaters won't matter much in the near future once all the new construction requiring electric appliances happens and the grids go down from overuse.
You aren't really trying to apply LOGIC to something heil hochul demands, are you?
^This 100%.
The number of people that try to run a space heater on one of those lamp extension cords is mind boggling. Never run one on an extension cord, but if you choose to ignore that advice make sure it's a 12 gauge or thicker cord. There is a reason the NEC requires 6/12 foot spacing (or less) on outlets. This requirement has been code since 1956. Electrical Code Requirements for Outlets in the Home
Yes, also don't leave space heaters running unattended. It's not a central heating system. They can tip over, etc.
To be fair, this is not a ban. It's setting minimum standards for new space heaters being sold, not saying you cannot own space heaters or need to stop using ones you already have. The requirements are pretty much already done, minus the OSHA part, which seems a bit... weird. I can't remember seeing a new space heater sold now a days that doesn't have a thermostat that turns it off at a certain temperature or has a tip over switch so this really isn't an issue, even the cheap $15-20 ones have those features See: https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Thermostat-Multiple-Protection-Portable/dp/B0BG4ML55H/ref=sr_1_25_sspa?crid=B34XEW5HZ4NZ and https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Efficient-Portable-Protection-Livingroom/dp/B0BC1BS414/
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
any info on electric blankets ?? they make fires too .
she should ban O2
and Electric
End all fires
she should ban O2
and Electric
End all fires
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
she better ban flower pots now
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I have been using one of those kerosene trash can heaters in a room I am remodeling. Had the room up to 117 degrees without any of that dangerous non-renewable electricity.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
I'm thinking Hochul missed a 16 hour safety training mandate before allowing a transfer of a space heater. No sales to convicted arsonist and banning campfires in the living room. Maybe a candle ban.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
STS556
.223 Rem
Screw her and her useless bans. I have a space heater that is about 10 years old to warm up my back room that is all windows. Its is about 5 degrees cooler in that room than the rest of the house. The heater works well and I am not giving it up. It has no thermostat and no tip over shut off. That room is where our office is. My wife used it more frequently than I do. I guess I am even more of a criminal in NY now.