Hochul sends the national guard to jail where prison guards are striking

[Acer-m14]

With more imminent strikes from NYS Correctional Officers - a common problem you will hear about is the NYS HALT Act which was passed in 2022.
The NYS HALT Act is putting our Correctional Officers in danger!
In summary - the law dramatically limited our COs ability to control bad behavior in our prisons - primarily through solitary confinement.
By limiting solitary confinement, violent inmates are staying in the general population—leading to more attacks on officers and fellow inmates.
Since HALT was enacted:

Assaults on COs have skyrocketed

Officers have fewer tools to control violent inmates

Staffing is at crisis levels due to low morale & early retirements

Gangs and predators now run the show
NYS politicians have tied the hands of our COs—making prisons more dangerous than ever. Reform is one thing, but HALT has gone too far.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

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With more imminent strikes from NYS Correctional Officers - a common problem you will hear about is the NYS HALT Act which was passed in 2022.
The NYS HALT Act is putting our Correctional Officers in danger!
In summary - the law dramatically limited our COs ability to control bad behavior in our prisons - primarily through solitary confinement.
By limiting solitary confinement, violent inmates are staying in the general population—leading to more attacks on officers and fellow inmates.
Since HALT was enacted:

Assaults on COs have skyrocketed

Officers have fewer tools to control violent inmates

Staffing is at crisis levels due to low morale & early retirements

Gangs and predators now run the show
NYS politicians have tied the hands of our COs—making prisons more dangerous than ever. Reform is one thing, but HALT has gone too far.

I say let the whole fucking system implode!

 

[Nighttrain]

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/state-offers-new-proposals-to-entice-striking-correction-workers-to-go-back-to-work/

Total BS !

 

[GOPerfect]

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/state-offers-new-proposals-to-entice-striking-correction-workers-to-go-back-to-work/

Total BS !

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Curious of what you think the BS is in regards to this?

 

[Nighttrain]

Curious of what you think the BS is in regards to this?

Anything with the word temporary

 

[FP1201]

Son's best friend is a CO in Auburn: (third hand) but when the "offer" came, they read it and threw it in the Fire...and as for the NG, well they walked in, saw what was going on, announced they were not prepared for this shit and walked right back out,

 

[Bigfoot]

Hochul the accidental governor is in way over her head and it always shows.

One of her aides should tell her to stop trying to talk tough when behind a microphone.
It's not a good look when a 4-foot-tall midget tries to talk tough. It makes her look like an ass clown that's not to be taken seriously.

No one likes to be talked down to by a buck-toothed dumb midget. If she was smart she would change her approach with her messaging to something that's effective. Apparently, she's not all that smart.

Going by Hochul's track record this prison issue is probably going to turn into even more of a shit show as time goes by.

 

[Saltwater60]

Son's best friend is a CO in Auburn: (third hand) but when the "offer" came, they read it and threw it in the Fire...and as for the NG, well they walked in, saw what was going on, announced they were not prepared for this shit and walked right back out,

Every CO I know says they are treated like trash. I’m glad they are sticking up for themselves. I’m glad the national guard wimped out and left. Hochul should do it

 

[kev74]

... It makes her look like an ass clown that's not to be taken seriously....

Mostly because she's an ass clown who's not to be taken seriously.

 

[holdover]

Her first Idea is to call in the National guard , instead of Listening to the guards . Shes fucking clueless . Would you call up an active duty unit if you had no guard? WTF? Maybe if she called in national guard air support, or the corps of engineers What the hell is him/her even thinking?

 

[Acer-m14]

be like George Carlin ..

All Guards Exit the facility at 6am ..

At Noon all the cell doors open ..

let them fend for themselves ..

anyone caught claiming the fence .. pew pew ..

 

[Nighttrain]

The state has 42 Correctional Facilities, 40 of them are now on strike.

 

[Bigfoot]

The state has 42 Correctional Facilities, 40 of them are now on strike.

Your avatar... lol

 

[Catskillkid]

I live in a community that has a lot of CO's. The stories I hear about conditions in the prisons are horrible. The inmates are literally running the asylum. I would never want to be a guard but it's a job that is sorely needed. There are plenty of scumbags who do not deserve to see the light of day. I'm behind the CO's on this one

 

[Nighttrain]

The average citizen has no idea what the inside of a prison looks like, or how things work.

The members of the National Guard that just got called up to assist at the state prisons will be getting a shocking reality check.

Hopefully the NG members get the information out to the public on how dangerous the conditions have become.

 

[Catskillkid]

The average citizen has no idea what the inside of a prison looks like, or how things work.

The members of the National Guard that just got called up to assist at the state prisons will be getting a shocking reality check.

Hopefully the NG members get the information out to the public on how dangerous the conditions have become.

Word is, the NG went in, spent a couple of hours inside, said f this, and left.

 

[S&W Fan]

FUKH

Risking even more lives just to satisfy your socialist ego

 

[Nighttrain]

Word is, the NG went in, spent a couple of hours inside, said f this, and left.

The NG are at various facilities across the state, I have read a few NG have left , but this has not been verified.

 

[Nighttrain]

Just so everyone understands, for each day the officers are on strike, they are loosing 2 day’s pay

Not to mention the fines that will be imposed.

Along with possible termination.

 

[FP1201]

Just so everyone understands, for each day the officers are on strike, they are loosing 2 day’s pay

Not to mention the fines that will be imposed.

Along with possible termination.

That's a possibility, but I don't see it as probable: They haven't got enough Officers (and staff) as it is, and firing even more will only piss off those left even more...Government "Representatives" (they are NOT Leaders) forget that the People entrusted them to handle business in their name, and when there's failure to do so, we tend to get pissed off about it and act...they do not like negative feedback, hate opposition, loath Strikes, and are terrified of Riots/tumultuous Protests.
They want nothing more than to remain in power and when there's a loss of control that power and their re-election chances greatly diminish.

 

[tirwin1]

I heard on the radio today one of the issues is the state would rather pay OT than hire new officers with the resulting benefits and retirement packages. Not sure I am buying that line since the retirement benefits of any new hires won't hit the state for at least 20 years and this state doesn't care beyond the current fiscal year or next election.

 

[Nighttrain]

I heard on the radio today one of the issues is the state would rather pay OT than hire new officers with the resulting benefits and retirement packages. Not sure I am buying that line since the retirement benefits of any new hires won't hit the state for at least 20 years and this state doesn't care beyond the current fiscal year or next election.

Part of the issue is the lack of officers, the ones with 25 years (retirement) are leaving many with 5-15 are fed up and quitting.

The state can’t get people to take the position to fill the ranks , the facilities are running at 70 % staffing

 

[tirwin1]

 

[holdover]

I have a few people in my family that are guards , they have told me its nuts in there, there's no real way to discipline the inmates since the HALT act . Basically the inmates run the prison.

 

[Acer-m14]

another idea ..

lock everyone in there cells ..

then all the guards walk out

have fun huchul ..

 

[spat]

Hell their own union, NYSCOPBA hates the members. They are not in support of this action at all.

They should have just dropped all the inmates off on a corner in NYC before going on strike.

 

[spat]

Are you serious? That’s great news.

hence why she is caving. I heard she wants a deal. I hope they hold out for more but the union isn’t standing by them.

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/state-offers-new-proposals-to-entice-striking-correction-workers-to-go-back-to-work

There's no better proof anywhere that unions don't work for their members than that phrase right there.

Your union doesn't protect you anymore than the Corp HR department does.

 

[Saltwater60]

Part of the issue is the lack of officers, the ones with 25 years (retirement) are leaving many with 5-15 are fed up and quitting.

The state can’t get people to take the position to fill the ranks , the facilities are running at 70 % staffing

This is true. I know many CO’s and anyone that can retire does they day they can. Any with less than 10 years are quitting because they fear for their lives and the state treats them worse than the inmates.

 

[Saltwater60]

There's no better proof anywhere that unions don't work for their members than that phrase right there.

Your union doesn't protect you anymore than the Corp HR department does.

My union is terrible. In one breath they bash the people that refuse to do anything for us then they tell us to vote for them. I asked one time why this is and they told me well we know their track record but the new people we don’t so we know how to handle them. The people in office will be better than the replacements. I asked how they know that but they don’t like questions. They blame us for not doing stupid certain things they say matter. Sorry me wearing a shirt and taking a picture is not why you’re failing to get me a raise. Maybe we need to strike like the CO’s even though we’re not allowed as well. Takes years to train some of us and what’s going on at the federal level maybe longer these days.

 

[Saltwater60]

Local government officials join the picket line. About time the joined a worthy cause.

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/local-elected-officials-join-correction-officers-on-6th-day-of-strike/?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3kzjC0i8lRkEL91efsORMALEdB4sxATIcSA4Jm8mI1AjObEWhwo_PlKJs_aem_4VODPmheIhBWSGq2zeIkLg