How do I get my shotgun back?

[Laru845]

TBH, right now is probably the worst time... although, I know people say it's HIS property.

I've found that in a lot of departments, there is a LOT of miscommunication, he/said, she/said type stuff and no one actually knows what's going on except for maybe one or two higher ups if that. It's amazing that things even get done, or done correctly. So I wouldn't doubt it at this point.

Wait till the 3rd and then work with them and post back.

You just described how I’m feeling, I feel like the officers don’t know what’s going on. It’s like they don’t know the rules or laws.

 

[Laru845]

TOLD YA SO, LOL what did I win,

No I was actually spot on, I said he’ll take a nice long vacation.

 

[Jmac00]

No I was actually spot on, I said he’ll take a nice long vacation.

don't worry, Next Tuesday, he won't be available either. Honestly, I hope you get it back, but this is pure bullshit. Next week if no one is available, I'd be asking to talk to the commander, or whoever the hell is in charge.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

You have the DA letter. Why does a specific officer need to be there? Why can't any one of them release it to you when you have all the paperwork? Why not work it out with your lawyer to be ready to answer your call and speak directly to the officer giving you bullshit if you get told to go in to get it and they give you the run around?

 

[Acer-m14]

I gotta wait for the sergeant to get back from vacation.

he is on a moose hunt in Canada with your shotgun ..

 

[Laru845]

You have the DA letter. Why does a specific officer need to be there? Why can't any one of them release it to you when you have all the paperwork? Why not work it out with your lawyer to be ready to answer your call and speak directly to the officer giving you bullshit if you get told to go in to get it and they give you the run around?

Yea it’s straight up bullshit and I’m trying to keep it cool, calm and collected. Honestly I think my lawyer tired of me. But I’m willing to bother him about it if I have to.

 

[Laru845]

he is on a moose hunt in Canada with your shotgun ..

JTS XP12 not that highly rated I think but I guess it looks cool enough for them to want it haha

 

[Laru845]

don't worry, Next Tuesday, he won't be available either. Honestly, I hope you get it back, but this is pure bullshit. Next week if no one is available, I'd be asking to talk to the commander, or whoever the hell is in charge.

If the sergeant gives me a hard time, I’m gonna have to threaten a lawsuit. This other officers genuinely look like they don’t know what to do in this situation.

 

[Acer-m14]

If the sergeant gives me a hard time, I’m gonna have to threaten a lawsuit. This other officers genuinely look like they don’t know what to do in this situation.

ummmm .. go back to the officer you just seen .. can you go get a photo of it and show me .. i just want to make sure it is here and you all
are not blowing smoke up my ass ..

 

[Rocpo]

Once you do that, your options become limited. Next step is to talk to their Internal Affairs supervisor if the Property Sgt declines to comply with the DA release.

If that fails, don't threaten a lawsuit, just do it. Give no warning.

 

[Acer-m14]

whats that commercial .. ummmm

oh yeh .. JG Wentworth ..

Its my ShotGun and i WANT it NOW!! ..

 

[Laru845]

Once you do that, your options become limited. Next step is to talk to their Internal Affairs supervisor if the Property Sgt declines to comply with the DA release.

If that fails, don't threaten a lawsuit, just do it. Give no warning.

Got it

 

[Laru845]

ummmm .. go back to the officer you just seen .. can you go get a photo of it and show me .. i just want to make sure it is here and you all
are not blowing smoke up my ass ..

I got a tracker in the case. I disconnected it last month because I had given up on it. But the shotty was never moved while I had it connected.

 

[spat]

You have the DA letter. Why does a specific officer need to be there? Why can't any one of them release it to you when you have all the paperwork? Why not work it out with your lawyer to be ready to answer your call and speak directly to the officer giving you bullshit if you get told to go in to get it and they give you the run around?

"So, you guys can't check any evidence in until that guy gets back ?"

---- "No, of course not, Jason is covering for him"

"Then tell Jason to cover for him checking stuff out too".

 

[Jsmegs77]

I got a tracker in the case. I disconnected it last month because I had given up on it. But the shotty was never moved while I had it connected.

Connect that thing back up if you can. Couldn’t cost too terribly much and knowing the location wouldn’t hurt.

 

[FRANKIE]

Just stay the course. You’re doing good. They’re avoiding you now and that’s a good sign. Do it with a smile. I think your gonna get your property back.

 

[Laru845]

Connect that thing back up if you can. Couldn’t cost too terribly much and knowing the location wouldn’t hurt.

I need it physically to activate it again, it’s an Apple AirTag

 

[Laru845]

Just stay the course. You’re doing good. They’re avoiding you now and that’s a good sign. Do it with a smile. I think you’re gonna get your property back.

Yea I comply with them not showing signs of frustration.

 

[Saltwater60]

You have the DA letter. Why does a specific officer need to be there? Why can't any one of them release it to you when you have all the paperwork? Why not work it out with your lawyer to be ready to answer your call and speak directly to the officer giving you bullshit if you get told to go in to get it and they give you the run around?

They can all take it but only one guy can return it??

 

[Laru845]

They can all take it but only one guy can return it??

Evidence guy told me he gotta wait for the sergeant to tell him he can release it… apparently.

 

[Bustedknees]

My apologies if I missed it somewhere in this discussion, But I sure hope all this work isn't for a f$%kin Mossberg.

 

[Laru845]

My apologies if I missed it somewhere in this discussion, But I sure hope all this work isn't for a f$%kin Mossberg.

Haha no worst it’s for a JTS, I’m on delayed for a maverick 88 tho

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Thank you

When my guns were seized back in 2014, I hired a lawyer and went to NY Supreme Court. Got my CCW permit immediately reinstated. But my local PD (Orchard Park PD) gave me the fuckin run around big time, and it took me 6 months to get them back. When I presented them with my copy of the signed Court Order that was sent to me in the US Mail, they gave me shit, and said I probably forged it! And that they would have to be sent a copy directly from the Court, and then for weeks claimed that they had not received it from the Court. And so on.

They are a bunch of lying ass motherfuckers (IMHO, or course). I lost much of the respect I had for cops when I had to deal with them over that.

This post is NOT legal advice, as it is against the law to dispense legal advice if you are not a lawyer, GOT THAT?

You do not have to hire a lawyer, as you can file a case in the Court yourself (Pro Se). Costs about $100 as I recall. Sue the fuckers civilly, for damages, pain and suffering, and for the immediate return of your property. Have them served ($50). Go to Court and demand that the judge order them to return your property.

Don't give up. Stay on target.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Document that and what was said. You will never get the call or you’ll get a call at 10:30am Wednesday and you will have to be there within minutes before the assholes leaves. Sorry you’re going through this.

Back in 2014, after months of pressing the OPPD and getting multiple excuses, and the full run around, I FINALLY got a call from a "detective" who told me to be at the department at 5:30PM that day to pick them up. Good thing I was in town that day as I travelled often for work. I went there and checked in at the PD lobby window at 5:15PM. He came out and said" What The Hell are you doing here??? I told you to be here at 5:30". I told him "I will still be RIGHT HERE at 5:30PM when you bring my guns out to me. If you thought I was going to give you ANY excuse for you to use, you are wrong".

At 5:30PM he walked out and tossed them on the floor in front of me, and said he had to leave to go home for some family function.

I told him, "No, it doesn't work that way detective. We checked them all into the department by model and S/N, and tagged each one too. You're not simply going to toss them on the floor in a bag, and expect me to go away. We are going to pull each one out; verify the S/N, and inspect them for damage or missing parts before I take them back".

I made him stand there while we did that in the lobby, and took a full 1/2 hour doing it. Fuck him.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

You have the DA letter. Why does a specific officer need to be there? Why can't any one of them release it to you when you have all the paperwork? Why not work it out with your lawyer to be ready to answer your call and speak directly to the officer giving you bullshit if you get told to go in to get it and they give you the run around?

BECAUSE ONLY "certain specific officers can access the Evidence Room..." Assholes.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

And a final word of advice: no matter how pissed off you may be, be polite, and do not show it, or lose your cool. OK to be firm. Be clear, then get your gun, and GTFO of there.

 

[Laru845]

When my guns were seized back in 2014, I hired a lawyer and went to NY Supreme Court. Got my CCW permit immediately reinstated. But my local PD (Orchard Park PD) gave me the fuckin run around big time, and it took me 6 months to get them back. When I presented them with my copy of the signed Court Order that was sent to me in the US Mail, they gave me shit, and said I probably forged it! And that they would have to be sent a copy directly from the Court, and then for weeks claimed that they had not received it from the Court. And so on.

They are a bunch of lying ass motherfuckers (IMHO, or course). I lost much of the respect I had for cops when I had to deal with them over that.

This post is NOT legal advice, as it is against the law to dispense legal advice if you are not a lawyer, GOT THAT?

You do not have to hire a lawyer, as you can file a case in the Court yourself (Pro Se). Costs about $100 as I recall. Sue the fuckers civilly, for damages, pain and suffering, and for the immediate return of your property. Have them served ($50). Go to Court and demand that the judge order them to return your property.

Don't give up. Stay on target.

Thanks for sharing, I’m not giving up. I believe I saw the officer I was talking to holding a copy of the DA letter. So they better not use that bullshit.

 

[Laru845]

And a final word of advice: no matter how pissed off you may be, be polite, and do not show it, or lose your cool. OK to be firm. Be clear, then get your gun, and GTFO of there.

Of course I’m keeping it cool, calm and collected. And I can tell the officers trying their best to not lose it either. Which makes the process a little enjoyable. They aren’t a restaurant when I call they have to answer. And it’s amazing how fast they pick up. So getting the same guy saying the same thing is probably frustrating.

 

[Laru845]

Back in 2014, after months of pressing the OPPD and getting multiple excuses, and the full run around, I FINALLY got a call from a "detective" who told me to be at the department at 5:30PM that day to pick them up. Good thing I was in town that day as I travelled often for work. I went there and checked in at the PD lobby window at 5:15PM. He came out and said" What The Hell are you doing here??? I told you to be here at 5:30". I told him "I will still be RIGHT HERE at 5:30PM when you bring my guns out to me. If you thought I was going to give you ANY excuse for you to use, you are wrong".

At 5:30PM he walked out and tossed them on the floor in front of me, and said he had to leave to go home for some family function.

I told him, "No, it doesn't work that way detective. We checked them all into the department by model and S/N, and tagged each one too. You're not simply going to toss them on the floor in a bag, and expect me to go away. We are going to pull each one out; verify the S/N, and inspect them for damage or missing parts before I take them back".

I made him stand there while we did that in the lobby, and took a full 1/2 hour doing it. Fuck him.

Haha I never really liked police but I do respect their line of work. My girlfriend’s brother had me considering going to police academy. But with the position they’re given you just gotta expect a handful of them to let it go over their heads and act like assholes. I do Jiu Jitsu and we occasionally have officers come train with us. I love bullying them on the mats.

 

[wizrd]

Gun cases seem to 'disappear' when surrendered with weapons to police agencies. Speaking from experience.