How much ammo do you keep on stock just incase?

[Nevar]

Hey [censored] tell us your SS number them maybe we will warm up . . Nothing like a princess adnie foot licker.

 

[E the massive]

What's the megaton yield to round conversion?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Oooohhh... can I change my answer?

"Less than quite a few prominent forum members, more than your barracks."

 

[meketrefe]

I don’t know how much land is required to sustain an average sized family. That’s irrelevant. Whatever the acreage is, is what is. The point is to be away from others that need what you have so that you do not have to fight them.

So how does one get away when many people, in an attempt to get away, go to the same places you go?
The problem is that there is not enough land for everyone to be away from others.
hiding permanently doesn't work. Homesteading doesn't work if everyone wants it.
That is why groups, villages, farming and commerce became so popular.
Even homesteading today is so expensive that requires at least one person to have a seasonal job with
a few exceptions like very large family farms.
Once you farm you don't get away from anything. It is quite a job at a permanent location.

As far as living form the land land it is required very few if you homestead with the exception of wood that requires 10 acres of diverse forest long term. Latest homesteading acts like the one in Alaska in 1988 produced over 3K homesteads wiht an average of over 100 acres each and very hard living for many. That is w/o taking into account the rights to fishing and game that is runinng short like restrictions on salmon even the natives face.

So living off the land might be great as a concept but it cannot literally sustain humanity. We are too many.

 

[meketrefe]

What's the megaton yield to round conversion?

A couple of boxes of 300 ACDC blackout / watchout.

 

[Marine Cpl]

So how does one get away when many people, in an attempt to get away, go to the same places you go?
The problem is that there is not enough land for everyone to be away from others.
hiding permanently doesn't work. Homesteading doesn't work if everyone wants it.
That is why groups, villages, farming and commerce became so popular.
Even homesteading today is so expensive that requires at least one person to have a seasonal job with
a few exceptions like very large family farms.
Once you farm you don't get away from anything. It is quite a job at a permanent location.

As far as living form the land land it is required very few if you homestead with the exception of wood that requires 10 acres of diverse forest long term. Latest homesteading acts like the one in Alaska in 1988 produced over 3K homesteads wiht an average of over 100 acres each and very hard living for many. That is w/o taking into account the rights to fishing and game that is runinng short like restrictions on salmon even the natives face.

So living off the land might be great as a concept but it cannot literally sustain humanity. We are too many.

Let me make this simple. If you have 4 years of food for a family of 4 stashed away, where are your chances better? In the woods or in a suburb?

 

[GOPerfect]

Let me make this simple. If you have 4 years of food for a family of 4 stashed away, where are your chances better? In the woods or in a suburb?

Not trying to make this too big of an issue, but that really depends on so many things.

If all hell were to break loose, I would love to stay in my home in the burbs.

If not, I would travel to my country property, only issue with that? I have no idea how many others are going to try to do the same thing.

 

[meketrefe]

Let me make this simple. If you have 4 years of food for a family of 4 stashed away, where are your chances better? In the woods or in a suburb?

Hard to say. It depends of so many other factors.
In the remote woods so many people just vanish and nobody ever knows how.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Hard to say. It depends of so many other factors.
In the remote woods so many people just vanish and nobody ever knows how.

Bottom line, if you can find a remote area away from others, your food stock will last longer. Here’s an example.

Someone in Buffalo with 4 years worth of food will have a harder time than someone in Alaska with 4 years worth of food. The guy in Buffalo could get killed for his food if discovered that he has a lot. If not discovered, his food will only last 4 years. The guy in the boondocks of Alaska can stretch his 4 year supply to many more. He probably would not run into anyone if he is remote enough and if he does, that person is more than likely prepared as well.

 

[spat]

You want to self rely and survive for a long time? ...start thinking Amish.

The Amish are huge on community and cooperation, They don't build barns alone. Just saying.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Have all of your preps in different locations. Maybe, some at home. Some at your country property. And, maybe some in between at one of those storage areas. Monthly charges are fairly low for the small storage spaces, so I hear...

Yes, if you have a second home or family you could spread your preps with. This is one way to do it. The way animals will stash food in different locations for the winter. Even so, you'd still face the possibility of having to abandon those locations and your stashes along with them.
This is the problem with preparing, at least that I have found, when you don't know what will happen. That said, all you can do is do what you think will put you in the best position. The rest is out of your control. So, I guess my point is that being okay with the idea of having to abandon all or most of your preps, is a part of prepping.

 

[meketrefe]

The Amish are huge on community and cooperation, They don't build barns alone. Just saying.

They do not take expensive insurance neither. Their insurance is their community.
The way it used to be during thousands of years of evolution.

 

[Vapor]

Get back on topic.


The answer is none of your business...

 

[Toecutter]

First rule of ammo hoarding is you do talk about ammo hoarding.

 

[Vapor]

I keep 2 boxes of thirty aught six for my single shot rifle that CNN tells me is all I need for hutnin'.

 

[GOPerfect]

I keep 2 boxes of thirty aught six for my single shot rifle that CNN tells me is all I need for hutnin'.

Why so much? Are you that bad of a hunter? You need forty rounds??

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Why so much? Are you that bad of a hunter? You need forty rounds??

Sounds like an arsenal to me. Why do you need 40 rounds for a single shot?

 

[Vapor]

po

 

[spat]

Let me make this simple. If you have 4 years of food for a family of 4 stashed away, where are your chances better? In the woods or in a suburb?

4 years of food is useless no matter where you live.

If you can’t secure a new source of food in a year or 2, more years won't help.

 

[kev74]

One bullet. When Andy lets me have it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

4 years of food is useless no matter where you live.

If you can’t secure a new source of food in a year or 2, more years won't help.

Which reinforces my point. What better place to secure additional sources of food then in the wild compared to a suburb? At least in the wild you can procure grubs and other stuff to supplement what you don’t have if you area not successful in hunting.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Sounds like an arsenal to me. Why do you need 40 rounds for a single shot?

He bought the lifetime hunting license- thats 20 years worth of ammo.

 

[Tisto]

7. 7 boolits is the correct answer. You don't need more than 7 boolits. Oh, wait - What ? 7 boolits is struck down by the court ? The answer is now 10 ? Ok, 10 it is !! You dont need more than 10 boolits to kill a deeah !!

 

[spat]

Which reinforces my point. What better place to secure additional sources of food then in the wild compared to a suburb? At least in the wild you can procure grubs and other stuff to supplement what you don’t have if you area not successful in hunting.

I think we can all agree, in any sort of SHTF scenario less urban and more rural is almost always better.

Fewer people, who are generally more self reliant and therefore less likely to think they need to take your stuff, and more likely to have something to offer in trade for the stuff they do want.

Most of the valuable things your urban neighbors have are likely to be worthless in a serious SHTF situation.

Trading your rural neighbor some of the black pepper you have cached for some fresh vegetables they have in their garden could be a great deal for everyone.

The nice iPhone or laptop your urban neighbor wants to trade, not so much.

 

[Cooolone]

In a SHTF scenario, ammo, like gas, food, water... Becomes a commodity! If I had stockpiles, I wouldn't be selling for profit because money becomes less meaningful than nourishment or survival. I'd be holding onto all I have at the moment and accumulating what I can, when I can.

Am I prepping for doomsday? No, not at all... But for a sustained holdout for the SHTF to blow over, yeah sure! Because if doomsday comes, they'll be no hope, just survival! Would suck to be facing an enemy and reaching for that last full mag, while looking at the cases of ammo laying there in the corner useless as shit! Just saying, lol... So in your stockpiling, magazines is an often overlooked commodity for your firearms, don't skimp out!

That's all I'm sayin lol

Let me make this simple. If you have 4 years of food for a family of 4 stashed away, where are your chances better? In the woods or in a suburb?

And you've stored 4 years of water too? How about sewage ability to handle 4 years? No matter what you think, they odds are probably all about the same. The thing(s) the woods will isolate you from as an advantage, will also be a disadvantage at some point. Are you trained in First Aid? How about advanced First Aid? Have some drugs on hand as well for any eventuality? Again, SHTF scenarios are fun to talk about, but the general rule is once it happens, all plans fall to shit!!! There'll be 1000 things that happen that you didn't foresee or plan for.

 

[spat]

In a SHTF scenario, ammo, like gas, food, water... Becomes a commodity! If I had stockpiles, I wouldn't be selling for profit because money becomes less meaningful than nourishment or survival. I'd be holding onto all I have at the moment and accumulating what I can, when I can.

Am I prepping for doomsday? No, not at all... But for a sustained holdout for the SHTF to blow over, yeah sure! Because if doomsday comes, they'll be no hope, just survival! Would suck to be facing an enemy and reaching for that last full mag, while looking at the cases of ammo laying there in the corner useless as shit! Just saying, lol... So in your stockpiling, magazines is an often overlooked commodity for your firearms, don't skimp out!

That's all I'm sayin lol



And you've stored 4 years of water too? How about sewage ability to handle 4 years? No matter what you think, they odds are probably all about the same. The thing(s) the woods will isolate you from as an advantage, will also be a disadvantage at some point. Are you trained in First Aid? How about advanced First Aid? Have some drugs on hand as well for any eventuality? Again, SHTF scenarios are fun to talk about, but the general rule is once it happens, all plans fall to shit!!! There'll be 1000 things that happen that you didn't foresee or plan for.

When civilization breaks down, you need to be thinking about what's going to replace it, not how to get away.

Sure, if your house burns down the most important thing is to get out alive. But your biggest problem is going to be where are you going to live now.

Having 4 years of food prep is like having 20 fire extinguishers and thinking that'll save you if your house goes up.

Sure it's not going to hurt, but a nice insurance policy is important too.

 

[Podmonkey]

Yeah stockpiling ammo is great if you have a bunker and plan on bugging in, but how about if you have to up and leave? Ammo is very heavy and you can only pack so much in your vehicle (assuming driving is still an option) and you are definitely limited if you are on foot. There is nothing wrong with stocking up and putting yourself in the best position you think possible, but at the same time, there is no way to tell what, if anything, will happen. You have to be OK with the idea that dispite all the effort and money put into to stocking up, you may have to leave it all in order to survive. The same goes for buying up guns. You can only use/carry so many. It's one thing to want to buy enough to arm your family and close friends, but as far as getting this gun or that and accumulating a collection, you can't use them all at one time and likely could not realistically take them all with you if you had to go.

Well, as I stated earlier I have more than enough ammo for any practical purpose but not near enough for recreation. I would like to have years supply of recreational ammo stocked so I can comfortably ride out these panics. When availability comes back I'd like to stack a couple thousand 55gr HP match 5.56 ammo, that being my favorite range load, and whatever couple thousand of 9mm.
I like that 124gr Fiocchi truncated cone stuff.
Also I plan to scale back my shooting habit some.
200 rounds or so per caliber/weapon should be enough to sooth my itchy trigger finger and it will help me conserve my stocks.

 

[1Self]

Fresh out. Anyone got a few rounds to spare?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Your rural redoubt is somewhat useless if you lack the fieldcraft to make good use of it.

Which, I suppose, would be true of a reinforced and heavily armed urban bunker, too.

 

[Elwood]

I’ve renounced my love of firearms and joined the Hari Krishna’s. In doing so my test of faith included throwing all my firearms and ammunition into the Hudson River.