How to Prepare For A Red Flag Confiscation Order At Your House

[Calculon]

Nothing new in here but since we live in the People’s Republic of New Yorkistan I thought it an interesting read. Be aware of who might have a grudge and take preemptive measures to minimize impact.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...-a-red-flag-confiscation-order-at-your-house/

 

[Celt]

Its annoying, frustrating, angering, and worrisome that anyone can call in a false complaint leading to our homes being invaded, and our guns taken by the Gestapo without due process. Then we have to spend thousands in legal fees, days off work, stress and inconvenience with the hope of getting them back (and undamaged, scratched, etc... Then, hope you get all your accessories, ammo, etc...

 

[Deplorable Me]

Red Flag

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Good read. Thank you for posting. I may look into that U.S. Law Shield assuming they cover red flag stuff. Just as a precaution.

 

[togmaster]

Is US Law Shield or any firearms insurance available in NY?

 

[Uzi]

Its annoying, frustrating, angering, and worrisome that anyone can call in a false complaint leading to our homes being invaded, and our guns taken by the Gestapo without due process. Then we have to spend thousands in legal fees, days off work, stress and inconvenience with the hope of getting them back (and undamaged, scratched, etc... Then, hope you get all your accessories, ammo, etc...

That's the idea. Destroy lives as much as possible, not just illegal unconstitutional gun confiscations. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

The police will be good servants and do as they're told because they need to feed the wife and kiddos, otherwise if you don't comply they'll shoot you dead as we've already seen very early on with these illegal laws. Cuomo and his servants will stop at nothing to make sure your guns are taken away otherwise your dog dies first and then you die, and what the hell, whoever else they might see because one of the officers "thought they saw them do something". It's really a free pass for that kind of shit when you get the cuomo stamp of approval/permission.

 

[Marine Cpl]

That's why I always say not to have everything in that one big, shiny, safe you bought at Gander Mountain. Keep one defensive long gun and a pistol if you can manage it somewhere else.

 

[Cooolone]

Wonder how many false reports will come in being that Gannet News released all the (NY) handgun owners info publicly...?

Don't even need to have an issue with anyone, and for safety sake, they'll just keep your arms warm and snuggly down at the local lockup until you can prove you aren't a threat.

All BS...

Co-List them things so the other owner can retrieve the property if this even happens. Lol

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Gannet News released all the (NY) handgun owners info publicly.

What's this now? When did this happen? I believe I opted out of this sort of exposure.

 

[BDinPutnam]

What's this now? When did this happen? I believe I opted out of this sort of exposure.

Couple years ago they FOILed Westchester and Putnam clerks for the info.

Westchester rolled over like a bitch and that info was published.

Putnam said FUG and wound up in court. I believe it is still in court somewhere but to date afaik the the clerk continues to refuse to conply.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Couple years ago they FOILed Westchester and Putnam clerks for the info.

Westchester rolled over like a bitch and that info was published.

Putnam said FUG and wound up in court. I believe it is still in court somewhere but to date afaik the the clerk continues to refuse to conply.

Is this the case that happened right after SandyHook that caused an uproar because it exposed judges and victims of domestic violence? I forget the paper's name at the moment, but as a direct result of that scandal, counties started offering the opt out paperwork which would exclude you for any such exposure.

 

[Rondo223]

I say good luck finding me

 

[pramaglia]

Is US Law Shield or any firearms insurance available in NY?

I emailed USCCA and they do not offer plans for NY State. I also emailed US LAW SHIELD, CCW Safe and Second Call Defense, but have not heard back from any of them yet.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I emailed USCCA and they do not offer plans for NY State. I also emailed US LAW SHIELD, CCW Safe and Second Call Defense, but have not heard back any of them yet.

Please let us know if you do hear back.

 

[Doc8404]

Is US Law Shield or any firearms insurance available in NY?

No insurance programs allowed.

Programs like CCWSAFE are legal programs.

My wife and I have it.

 

[pramaglia]

Please let us know if you do hear back.

I will let you know what they say.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Is this the case that happened right after SandyHook that caused an uproar because it exposed judges and victims of domestic violence? I forget the paper's name at the moment, but as a direct result of that scandal, counties started offering the opt out paperwork which would exclude you for any such exposure.

Yes. The opt out is even filed when you apply for your PP in Putnam now (if you want to; I don't know anyone who didnt).

 

[Doc8404]

No insurance programs allowed.

Programs like CCWSAFE are legal programs.

My wife and I have it.

I have an email somewhere from CCW SAFE re this.

Edit
Rob,

We are a legal service (not an insurance company) so we are not designed like the others. We are still strong in New York sir.

Thank you,

Stan

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I have an email somewhere from CCW SAFE re this.

Edit
Rob,

We are a legal service (not an insurance company) so we are not designed like the others. We are still strong in New York sir.

Thank you,

Stan

So will they help with things like red flag laws?

 

[Jmac00]

like I said when these BS started, ANYONE can call in a Red Flag.

ie: you get pulled over for speeding, Mr Officer is having a bad day and you smart mouth the guy and piss him off even more. Guess who knows you have a firearms and guess who could call in a RF complaint.

This also a good reason not to have firearms sticker on your car/truck. Cut someone off in traffic, the person you cut off can call in a road rage incident, your gun will be history in no time.

In short, if you're a gun owner, you now have to walk on eggshells and be nice to everyone, otherwise your guns will be history.

This is also why I moved my guns to a secrete location. I got a lot of money wrapped up in firearms, Im not letting some douche bag take them away for no apparent reason

 

[Doc8404]

So will they help with things like red flag laws?

Doubtful

CRIMINAL PROSECUTION
All costs associated with criminal actions against member stemming from a self defense use of force are covered with all memberships.

CIVIL LITIGATION
All costs associated with civil actions against member stemming from a self defense use of force are covered with all memberships.

ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
All costs associated with civil actions against member stemming from a self defense use of force are covered with all memberships.

 

[Doc8404]

And now I have to figure out WTF plan I have

Membership card doesn’t say
Frequently Asked Quesions (FAQs) - CCW Safe National | CCW Safe Weapon Liability | CCW Safe Defense Attorneys

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Doubtful

CRIMINAL PROSECUTION
All costs associated with criminal actions against member stemming from a self defense use of force are covered with all memberships.

CIVIL LITIGATION
All costs associated with civil actions against member stemming from a self defense use of force are covered with all memberships.

ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
All costs associated with civil actions against member stemming from a self defense use of force are covered with all memberships.

So basically, Red Flag laws are neither criminal or civil in origin? Are we talking legal grey area??? You can now have rights stripped from you without an actual charge or conviction, the reality of which no lawyer can defend???

 

[Doc8404]

Good questions

I can tell you after reading their FAQs
1) I have no idea what policy I have
2) they do NOT cover anything other than after a use of force event!!!

 

[Doc8404]

Emailed them to ask WTF I have.

Best Concealed Carry Insurance Comparison [2019] | Sniper Country

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Seems now we need "false accusation" insurance. What's that? Did I just hear the sound of another racket market being born?

 

[Doc8404]

Can only imagine the exclusions added to my umbrella policy each year.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Can only imagine the exclusions added to my umbrella policy each year.

You become your own exclusion.

 

[Acer-m14]

Co-List them things so the other owner can retrieve the property if this even happens. Lol

yeah LOL .. if we could only co-own rifles n shotguns and muskets ..

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

like I said when these BS started, ANYONE can call in a Red Flag.

ie: you get pulled over for speeding, Mr Officer is having a bad day and you smart mouth the guy and piss him off even more. Guess who knows you have a firearms and guess who could call in a RF complaint.

This also a good reason not to have firearms sticker on your car/truck. Cut someone off in traffic, the person you cut off can call in a road rage incident, your gun will be history in no time.

In short, if you're a gun owner, you now have to walk on eggshells and be nice to everyone, otherwise your guns will be history.

This is also why I moved my guns to a secrete location. I got a lot of money wrapped up in firearms, Im not letting some douche bag take them away for no apparent reason

It sucks but we cannot freely express ourselves without a realistic fear of false accusations.

I specifically chose to treat guns like fight club. Don't talk about it at work, my vehicles don't have any fun stickers etc.. just try to be as discreet as possible and attract as little attention as u can.

It sucks but walking on eggshells to not hurt someone's feelings or say something they don't think is ok with their indoctrination can have unfair and unjustified real world consequences for us.