I’m getting very sick of the governors Covid rules- state parks limited now

[Defilade]

Give up all the social distancing and the masks! None of it matters now anyway. Cross contamination from the free states are gonna get ya! As you can see California beaches are open!

Californians Defy Governor, Flock to the Beach

townhall.com

 

[Marine Cpl]

Sticks, LOL the rest of the country is the sticks? OK. Whatever stories they told you the overall numbers are no where near their projections , just like I said it would be when this scamdemic started. And even by admission the numbers are inflated . This is so far off from what they said it would be its laughable.

I expose myself everyday, no mask no gloves, which means Im risking my life or my health if Im wrong. That's putting your money where your mouth is.

If I lived where you lived I probably wouldn’t wear a mask because it hasn’t gotten there in force or not at all so it wouldn’t be necessary. You really can’t see that? You think it’s everywhere equally? If you do, then I don’t know what to tell you. You really cannot tell me that you don’t know that.

That’s why I told you to go to the city so that you can see the difference. But you do not want to. You would rather stay in a safe area than has hardly no infections at all and tell yourself that you are risking your life and being a brave man became you don’t wear a mask and drive yourself crazy about conspiracies and hoaxes.

Make no mistake. I’ve said it before. The country shouldn’t have been shut down and I understand that. Only problems areas should have been quarantined while everyone else lived on business as usual until it got to them if it got to them. Yes the government is taking advantage of non affected areas. You have valid points there. But in affected areas, your point that because nobody is sick in your area that it’s all BS is wrong.

Your tune would be completely different if 3 of your coworkers died. 2 on ventilators that you know personally. 94 other coworkers from your same organization dead. A family member who also works for the MTA that’s fighting it out in a bed in Long Island in his daughter’s house because he cannot risk infecting his wife who has issues. You have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. I’m done here.

 

[Darth]

"If it was your family in Sandy Hook..."

 

[Darth]

Give up all the social distancing and the masks! Non of it matters now anyway. Cross contamination from the free states are gonna get ya! As you can see California beaches are open!

Californians Defy Governor, Flock to the Beach

townhall.com

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I fully expect princess Cumhole to see the other states/countries opening up and not having near the "You're all gonna die!" reaction he's hoping for and going, like Newsome in CA did, full "Oh yeah!? Open up defying ME will you!? That's it, 2 more MONTHS of lockdown! How you like them apples!"

 

[spat]

Then we would have a problem that you escalated. It would more than likely end up in violence with law enforcement involved all because you decided to be an asshole instead of respecting my distance that I politely asked you to. At the end of the day when one or both of us is in jail and your ability to feed your family is now in danger, you would think to yourself that this could have all been avoided if you would have just said no problem to a man that was talking to you respectfully.

Crowing your personal space is rude. But that's it. And that's all this is.

If you "did something" about it, that would be assault, and you would be arrested for it, and your "personal space" would get a lot more invaded.

Also, it would be pretty hard for you to "do something" without closing that distance yourself.

What would your reaction have been if back in February some hippy has asked you to back up 6 feet because you were wrecking her aura or something ?

Your only legal remedy is to drop the items you were going to purchase on the ground and leave.

 

[Defilade]

I fully expect princess Cumhole to see the other states/countries opening up and not having near the "You're all gonna die!" reaction he's hoping for and going, like Newsome in CA did, full "Oh yeah!? Open up defying ME will you!? That's it, 2 more MONTHS of lockdown! How you like them apples!"

Yes, now that other States like Cali are partying away with no social distancing or masks it would be great if someone would tell cum hole that I guess if it came from China I guess now it will come from...Cali now??

 

[Gonzobird]

Well my camping trip(which was for the 31st) is cancelled and the State ordered that all camping reservations are suspended for the season.

It is one of the few things i look forward to. I still haven't seen my refund...

 

[Darth]

Well my camping trip(which was for the 31st) is cancelled and the State ordered that all camping reservations are suspended for the season.

It is one of the few things i look forward to. I still haven't seen my refund...

Wait what!?

NYS campgrounds suspended for season

 

[Gonzobird]

Wait what!?

NYS campgrounds suspended for season

 

[Darth]

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So just no reservations are being taken.

The grounds aren't closed (yet) for the season.

 

[Gonzobird]

well my reservation was canceled. THey sent me an email and called me to rub it in.

 

[Darth]

well my reservation was canceled. THey sent me an email and called me to rub it in.

With all this overreaction crap, I fully expect the Thanksgiving and Christmas day parades to be cancelled shortly.

 

[Gonzobird]

How about Memorial day. I love the parade in my village. How about the county fair. All i see is my summer family fun going away.

 

[Saltwater60]

How about Memorial day. I love the parade in my village. How about the county fair. All i see is my summer family fun going away.

Cuomo said the Erie county fair and the state fair are canceled this year. I saw it on the news briefing out of his mouth.
Many camping reservations are canceled. They screwed ours all up and I can’t even look to see if anything is abandoned to fix ours.
The one site in the 1000 islands is handicapped and they want a sticker now. My wife said she saw the wheelchair sign and thought that just meant it was handicapped accessible not that you could not reserve it if you weren’t handicapped.
The other reservation in alleghany state park she called in and they never made it u see our name. Looked a bit ago and you can’t even see what’s available.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Serious question, why six feet? What if the next guy says eight feet? 10? Is three feet enough? No? Why? How far would I need to be to make you happy? What makes your thought of distance more important than what I think is a good distance?>

I am absolutely not a bully.

10 rounds. No wait, 7 rounds. No wait...

 

[Duke]

2020 should be a do over.....

 

[ikilledkenny]

Went hiking yesterday @ Black Rock Brook, Mount Misery, and Whitehorse Mountain Loop [north of harriman state park].

Went early. By 9 AM parking lot was full. Main road areas where hikers park on the side of the road were empty.

we completed hiking a 5 mile trail, headed back around 12:30 pm. The main road areas were packed with cars for miles. people were backed up at the parking lot and were getting turned around.

the hiking trail we went on had light foot traffic, we crossed path with a few hikers. Almost all of them were respectful, either we/they move off the trail and stand until one of us pass each other.

 

[holdover]

If I lived where you lived I probably wouldn’t wear a mask because it hasn’t gotten there in force or not at all so it wouldn’t be necessary. You really can’t see that? You think it’s everywhere equally? If you do, then I don’t know what to tell you. You really cannot tell me that you don’t know that.

That’s why I told you to go to the city so that you can see the difference. But you do not want to. You would rather stay in a safe area than has hardly no infections at all and tell yourself that you are risking your life and being a brave man became you don’t wear a mask and drive yourself crazy about conspiracies and hoaxes.

Make no mistake. I’ve said it before. The country shouldn’t have been shut down and I understand that. Only problems areas should have been quarantined while everyone else lived on business as usual until it got to them if it got to them. Yes the government is taking advantage of non affected areas. You have valid points there. But in affected areas, your point that because nobody is sick in your area that it’s all BS is wrong.

Your tune would be completely different if 3 of your coworkers died. 2 on ventilators that you know personally. 94 other coworkers from your same organization dead. A family member who also works for the MTA that’s fighting it out in a bed in Long Island in his daughter’s house because he cannot risk infecting his wife who has issues. You have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. I’m done here.

Its so contagious that it doesn't leave the city. 4 months and it stays there. You cant have it both ways, if its as contagious as they claim it would have ravaged the country like an actual Pandemic, . it would have cost NYC hundreds of thousands of lives , In a week or two you hear the ""experts telling you that the warm weather helped to stop the spread of the virus. there's no doors keeping the virus from spreading to other places.

Erie county has a population of around 1 million , 99% of that is in the suburbs of Buffalo. Population of Buffalo is around 250,000 that's roughly 1.2 million people. the death rate in Erie county is a staggering 268. Somehow the virus just stays in NYC everybody else is un affected.


Coronavirus (COVID-19) statisti
Erie cases
Updated May 4 at 10:47 AM local
Confirmed
3,710
+112
Deaths
268
Recovered
-

 

[holdover]

If I lived where you lived I probably wouldn’t wear a mask because it hasn’t gotten there in force or not at all so it wouldn’t be necessary.

AHHHHHHH, so now your beginning to see the ridiculousness of it in other places? So if you weren't wearing a mask and you knew you were pretty safe, You might believe that the person who told you stay back 6 feet might be overreacting considering the fact that so few people have it here . You might even think that these crazy people should not infringe on you. Some people might even take offense at all the stupid people walking around looking like the Taliban because 268 people died in the county of 1.2 million over the last 4 months.thats like 00000.1 percent. percentage wise, NYC isnt a whole of lot more 19,000 in a population of something like 10 million. that breaks down to around 2000 deaths per million people

1% of a million is 10,000, thats about 0.25 percent death rate in NYC. So no you should not be afraid and hide under your blanket. and No I wouldn't be afraid. So if you want to talk about ignorant people ...

 

[Marine Cpl]

If you cannot see why it isn’t spreading up north and when it does how and why it is being contained, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[GOPerfect]

Will, there are tons of people up this way that don't care if this BS spreads up this north.

We want to get back to the normal. We want our lives back.

Many of us understand that life is precious, but we know that what is happening cannot continue.

I want life to go back to normal. I want the Stock market to grow again; I want my lost $80,000 to come back. I do not want to see my co-workers laid off of work.

We do not want to be forced into this life that the elected elite are pushing on us.

We want to stop hearing from the ignorant that they are keeping us safe. I do not want to live in a world that others think they know what is best for me.

 

[holdover]

If you cannot see why it isn’t spreading up north and when it does how and why it is being contained, I don’t know what to tell you.

No I don't know why it isn't spreading all over the country. Educate me. Because no one seems to know why either.

 

[Marine Cpl]

@GOPerfect

I want to get back to normal as well. What I’m saying is that what isn’t necessary for a non affected place is necessary for an affected place. I’ve said that repeatedly but for some reason it isn’t being tracked here and some here think that because they live in a non affected area, that it is the exact same as in an affected area because they drive by empty hospitals and it is all a hoax.

A doctor or a nurse in an isolation room wears a suit, face shield, mask, and gloves. The receptionist downstairs only wears only a mask and gloves. The doctor at the end of his shift walking to his car only wears a mask and washes his hands with no gloves and the mask comes off when he leaves the building. See the difference?

The same applies in NYC. Masks and gloves are worn on a train or in a store. At home or in a park when you are away from someone, nothing is worn. In the next county over, the same precautions are taken due to lots of commuters going back and forth. 5 counties over, it isn’t necessary. Hardly anyone is driving from NYC to Buffalo daily to spread it. It isn’t the same.

So yes. Things need to get back to normal. Nothing should have been shut down in non affected areas. But if it reaches there, then things need to be stepped up to slow the spread by the wearing of PPE in crowded areas but some here seem to think that because nothing is up there, the wearing of PPE is foolish by those that need to wear it everywhere.

I guarantee you that if it does get to Buffalo and 97 members of the State Police fall along with a few hundred from the town, people will all of a sudden sing a different tune and wear PPE. Why? because they would be smart to.

Some of you guys are incapable of seeing why it hasn’t spread to far away counties and are so incensed that all logical reason is thrown completely out the door.

 

[Marine Cpl]

No I don't know why it isn't spreading all over the country. Educate me. Because no one seems to know why either.

Put 2 and 2 together. Are people commuting from Buffalo to NYC daily? Are people in surrounding NYC counties wearing PPE? Are people in surrounding counties of surrounding NYC counties wearing PPE for the most part? Are people from Surrounding NYC counties going to Beer Fest in a Buffalo county at the Fairgrounds like normal? Are students going back and forth from SUNY upstate to Downstate? Are flights from China coming into Buffalo airport on a daily basis?

Jesus man. As much as we complain about all this shit, some restrictions are stopping or slowing the spread depending on where. Some restrictions are completely overboard though and I’m in agreement there.

 

[Darth]

@GOPerfect

I want to get back to normal as well. What I’m saying is that what isn’t necessary for a non affected place is necessary for an affected place. I’ve said that repeatedly but for some reason it isn’t being tracked here and some here think that because they live in a non affected area, that it is the exact same as in an affected area because they drive by empty hospitals and it is all a hoax.

A doctor or a nurse in an isolation room wears a suit, face shield, mask, and gloves. The receptionist downstairs only wears only a mask and gloves. The doctor at the end of his shift walking to his car only wears a mask and washes his hands with no gloves and the mask comes off when he leaves the building. See the difference?

The same applies in NYC. Masks and gloves are worn on a train or in a store. At home or in a park when you are away from someone, nothing is worn. In the next county over, the same precautions are taken due to lots of commuters going back and forth. 5 counties over, it isn’t necessary. Hardly anyone is driving from NYC to Buffalo daily to spread it. It isn’t the same.

So yes. Things need to get back to normal. Nothing should have been shut down in non affected areas. But if it reaches there, then things need to be stepped up to slow the spread by the wearing of PPE in crowded areas but some here seem to think that because nothing is up there, the wearing of PPE is foolish by those that need to wear it everywhere.

I guarantee you that if it does get to Buffalo and 97 members of the State Police fall along with a few hundred from the town, people will all of a sudden sing a different tune and wear PPE. Why? because they would be smart to.

Some of you guys are incapable of seeing why it hasn’t spread to far away counties and are so incensed that all logical reason is thrown completely out the door.

How do we know 97 people in the state police in Buffalo don't already have it?

They might just be asymptomatic.

 

[Marine Cpl]

How do we know 97 people in the state police in Buffalo don't already have it?

They might just be asymptomatic.

Because they haven’t died. I’m using that as an example of 97 people in my job that have died. As far as many being asymptotic, there are many. Perhaps myself as well.

 

[Darth]

Because they haven’t died. I’m using that as an example of 97 people in my job that have died. As far as many being asymptotic, there are many. Perhaps myself as well.

And nearly all of them would not die.

So how do we know they don't currently have it? Should we act as if they do?

 

[Marine Cpl]

And nearly all of them would not die.

So how do we know they don't currently have it? Should we act as if they do?

Only when those deaths are affecting the particular area. I’ve said as much. There is no reason why Buffalo should be closed and PPE required. Recommended yes. But required, no. Not yet. It wasn’t even recommended for PPE to be recommended in NYC when the virus was in Europe and no large cases in NYC.

But somehow probably for the sake of argument, you guys are arguing for the sake of arguing as if the viral rates are the same in all regions.

 

[Defilade]

Some people party like it's 1999! Like in Cali! Beaches across the nation packed as people ignore social distancing

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[libertysnake]

Only problems areas should have been quarantined while everyone else lived on business as usual until it got to them if it got to them.

Upstate is going to take longer to reopen because we don't want to do the difficult thing of telling people in the five buroughs they can't travel up here. That's why it's taking so long to come back down on this curve.