I just realized.... I do not own a Semi auto shotgun.

[Xae289]

I can’t speak for the Benelli but the 1301 definitely is the $700 better over the A300
IF you shoot more than 5-10 shells thru a shotgun once a year. If you even only put a box a month thru a shotgun the 1301 is better. The feature differences between the 2 are huge. IF you are the type of person to shoot a shotgun once a year and only put 1-2 boxes of buckshot or slugs thru it then the A300 ultima patrol will be more than adequate.

I spent weeks researching, handling and even borrowing friends A300 ultima patrol and 1301 tactical to help me decide what was best. Too many time in the past I have either bought the cheaper gun and regretted it only to go back and buy the more expensive gun and Vice versa. I simply wanted to buy once, cry once.

I agree that if you want a real shooter and plan to shoot a lot, go for the 1301 (or Benelli M4). My cutoff is definitely higher than a box of ammo/year though. The A300 really is a nice gun, but the 1301 is a really nice gun.

If you only shoot it a few times per year and want a semi-auto shotgun just because, you won't notice what you're missing with the A300. If you're into or think you might get into tactical shotgun shooting, get the 1301.

 

[Saltwater60]

I can’t speak for the Benelli but the 1301 definitely is the $700 better over the A300
IF you shoot more than 5-10 shells thru a shotgun once a year. If you even only put a box a month thru a shotgun the 1301 is better. The feature differences between the 2 are huge. IF you are the type of person to shoot a shotgun once a year and only put 1-2 boxes of buckshot or slugs thru it then the A300 ultima patrol will be more than adequate.

I spent weeks researching, handling and even borrowing friends A300 ultima patrol and 1301 tactical to help me decide what was best. Too many time in the past I have either bought the cheaper gun and regretted it only to go back and buy the more expensive gun and Vice versa. I simply wanted to buy once, cry once.

I passed on the Beretta A300. I thought it was large, heavy and clunky. I love me Beneli.

 

[Bustedknees]

Id suggest sporting models. More practical, more general use. Beretta 300 or Benelli Montefeltro.

 

[That_FNG]

I passed on the Beretta A300. I thought it was large, heavy and clunky. I love me Beneli.

Just curious which A300 and which Benelli? Both the A300 ultima patrol and 1301 tactical are about 1lb lighter than the M4. Not sure about the competition oriented models. Weight was a big consideration when I picked the 1301 tactical as it is about a 1lb lighter than an M4 and .6 lighter than an A300 ultima patrol (yet shoots softer)

 

[kev74]

Well?

What did you get?

 

[Defilade]

Being 55 now I don't like shooting my 870 anymore. I must be getting brittle lol. Would love a M2.

 

[speedkills27]

Save your pennies and get the 1301

 

[Saltwater60]

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Just curious which A300 and which Benelli? Both the A300 ultima patrol and 1301 tactical are about 1lb lighter than the M4. Not sure about the competition oriented models. Weight was a big consideration when I picked the 1301 tactical as it is about a 1lb lighter than an M4 and .6 lighter than an A300 ultima patrol (yet shoots softer)

It was a 12 gauge black synthetic stock one about 6-7 years ago so I can’t be sure on the model. I ended up with the Benelli Montfeltro over the A300. Very nice and light gun. I bought the 20 gauge but the 12 gauge Benelli felt much lighter than the A300. I was not impressed at all with the Beretta at all. It felt really heavy, clunky, and built very industrial like with the Benelli should have much nicer, lighter, quicker, and the fit and finish very nice to me. I’m still happy with it to this day.
A quick web search says the A300 is 7.7 lbs and the Montfeltro is 6.5 lbs. of course he wants a tactical shotgun so my points may not be valid because I was looking at field guns.

 

[That_FNG]

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It was a 12 gauge black synthetic stock one about 6-7 years ago so I can’t be sure on the model. I ended up with the Benelli Montfeltro over the A300. Very nice and light gun. I bought the 20 gauge but the 12 gauge Benelli felt much lighter than the A300. I was not impressed at all with the Beretta at all. It felt really heavy, clunky, and built very industrial like with the Benelli should have much nicer, lighter, quicker, and the fit and finish very nice to me. I’m still happy with it to this day.
A quick web search says the A300 is 7.7 lbs and the Montfeltro is 6.5 lbs. of course he wants a tactical shotgun so my points may not be valid because I was looking at field guns.

That makes sense. For a competition / hunting shotgun I’d have picked the Benelli over the beretta given those choices. Weight makes a big difference when having to carry and hold it all day long hunting, or for how the gun points and handles during competition.

Idk if you have ever handled a Benelli M4 but it’s about 7.8Lbs vs 6.4lbs for the 1301 tactical and about 7.1lbs for the A300 ultima patrol.

 

[Podmonkey]

The problem with the Benelli M4 is that you will drop $1,900 on the gun and then several hundred more on getting it properly kitted out, a full length, full capacity tube for example.
The 1301 mod 2 is almost as expensive but comes equipped with everything you'd need or want right out of the box, full capacity tube, forend with MLOK slots and so on. It's the ultimate itch scratching gun in it's segment.
That all being said however as we are on the eve of the second Great Depression it might be wise to just gold onto the money, use it to stockpile essentials or invest in commodities.............says the guy that recently dropped $1 300 on a revolver............that doesn't even work properly.

 

[FP1201]

My semi’s are Remington 1100 and 11-87’s, both right and left handed, and with mag tube extensions. Mine are older models I picked up used years ago. Primarily for home defense.

I would love to find a stainless marine version someday.

I like Remington's all the way back to the model 11's and 48s' but the Italians have Semi-autos in Spades over them: Lighter, Faster, more reliable, ALSO more expensive.
Beretta has two versions of Semi-auto's: Gas and Inertia Drive, and IFAIK are derivatives from their acquisition of Benelli.
There are bargains to be had, just have to shop around for them.
I told a young hunter who was fence sitting about buying a semi-auto for waterfowl "While you're jacking around with that pump gun, your buddies are already reloading their semi's".

The Turkish Shitguns are copies of Beretta/Benelli designs, and while they work well enough, the school of thought says they aren't built with the quality of metals as the originals, might be fine for the casual shooter that only burns through a few hundred rounds, but guns brought it for repair says they don't hold up to thousands of rounds.

Don't be afraid of the older Beretta's like the AL390's, 391, 1200, 1201...they were ALL great shotguns..."newer" the A300 is a very reliable machine.

The problem with the Benelli M4 is that you will drop $1,900 on the gun and then several hundred more on getting it properly kitted out, a full length, full capacity tube for example.
The 1301 mod 2 is almost as expensive but comes equipped with everything you'd need or want right out of the box, full capacity tube, forend with MLOK slots and so on. It's the ultimate itch scratching gun in it's segment.
That all being said however as we are on the eve of the second Great Depression it might be wise to just gold onto the money, use it to stockpile essentials or invest in commodities.............says the guy that recently dropped $1 300 on a revolver............that doesn't even work properly.

I'll bet your ass is going to be sore for a while over that Revolver...I expect they' ll make it right.
We generally don't accept the "one size fits all" approach with Rifles or even Handguns, so there's no logic in doing the same for Shotguns.
Clearing the Room, I'm going with an 18-20 inch barreled Beretta with a pressure switch Light attached.
Deer Hunting with Slugs/Buck it's going to be the 1100 with Rifle Sights.
Waterfowl: The Benelli Super-Nova
Trap: the 1100 with a 30" full choke barrel.
Best is to fit the gun to the application, but when all else fails a single shot 12 with a mod choke will do plenty.

 

[Willyone]

My ol' faithful Rem 1100 stuffed with 00 buck does it for me. But then, I tend to keep things simple

 

[kev74]

Double barrel. That's all you need. No joke.

 

[DoD1776]

Get a bigger budget.

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They make a knock off version for a 1/3 of the cost of a Benelli, I think it’s called a Panzer or something like that

 

[DoD1776]

They make a knock off version for a 1/3 of the cost of a Benelli, I think it’s called a Panzer or something like that

 

[FRANKIE]

Was shocked to read parts are 100% interchangeable with the Benelli
Unless there in this together, or definitely another
Hk vs Gsg type lawsuit.

 

[Vapor]

Do you have a .308 semi auto? Id say grab one of those first.



Semi shotguns are cool, but with a tube mag kinda lame. I can run a trombone very fast, and you can't reload a tube semi auto any faster than a pump. I don't see the real advantage.


Sure the semi let's you shoot it one handed....until the mag runs dry.

 

[kev74]

Was shocked to read parts are 100% interchangeable with the Benelli
Unless there in this together, or definitely another
Hk vs Gsg type lawsuit.

I think Benelli's patents expired.

Similar to how everyone is making Glock knock offs now.

 

[That_FNG]

Do you have a .308 semi auto? Id say grab one of those first.



Semi shotguns are cool, but with a tube mag kinda lame. I can run a trombone very fast, and you can't reload a tube semi auto any faster than a pump. I don't see the real advantage.


Sure the semi let's you shoot it one handed....until the mag runs dry.

Under stress it’s amazing how even experienced people can short stroke a pump gun. You can short stroke a semi auto. Another benefit is that semi autos can have less felt recoil than a pump gun.

 

[Podmonkey]

I like Remington's all the way back to the model 11's and 48s' but the Italians have Semi-autos in Spades over them: Lighter, Faster, more reliable, ALSO more expensive.
Beretta has two versions of Semi-auto's: Gas and Inertia Drive, and IFAIK are derivatives from their acquisition of Benelli.
There are bargains to be had, just have to shop around for them.
I told a young hunter who was fence sitting about buying a semi-auto for waterfowl

I'll bet your ass is going to be sore for a while over that Revolver...I expect they' ll make it right.
We generally don't accept the "one size fits all" approach with Rifles or even Handguns, so there's no logic in doing the same for Shotguns.
Clearing the Room, I'm going with an 18-20 inch barreled Beretta with a pressure switch Light attached.
Deer Hunting with Slugs/Buck it's going to be the 1100 with Rifle Sights.
Waterfowl: The Benelli Super-Nova
Trap: the 1100 with a 30" full choke barrel.
Best is to fit the gun to the application, but when all else fails a single shot 12 with a mod choke will do plenty.

Should my 586 L Comp be returned to me in full working order, without the need for moo clips mind, my ruffled feathers will be soothed. I may even purchase further S&W products.
As for the OP's particular wants, I suspect he is looking for a defensive/duty type gun. Tactical if you will.

 

[GTN]

Under stress it’s amazing how even experienced people can short stroke a pump gun. You can’t short stroke a semi auto. Another benefit is that semi autos can have less felt recoil than a pump gun.

And that is exactly why I got rid of the pump shotgun

 

[Bustedknees]

for the OP's particular wants, I suspect he is looking for a defensive/duty type gun. Tactical if you will.

I didn't see that in his original post, maybe but I think it's sorta a dumb move for a first real auto shotgun choice. There's so little use for a tactical shotgun other than waiting on a home invasion or running a three gun shoot. But a nice field or sporting shotgun offers hunting deer or waterfowl, small game, trap, skeet. Slugs, 00, or birdshot barrel chang -outs too.
I have 2k Italian and $350 Turkish guns that all do the same thing. just saying there's a lot out there that will do a whole lot more than one of those evil tactical black guns Hochul doesn't want anyone to buy anyways.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

For phucks sakes, ya gotta own a semiauto shotgun man!!!! What the phuck is wrong with y`all !!!!

@GOPerfect , Git after it, git`r done man!

 

[Podmonkey]

For phucks sakes, ya gotta own a semiauto shotgun man!!!! What the phuck is wrong with y`all !!!!

@GOPerfect , Git after it, git`r done man!

Why? They cost too much. I'd loke to have a 1301 bit I don't think I'll be putting the $1700 down on one anytime soon. If I need a scattergun I have my 590A1.

 

[Podmonkey]

I didn't see that in his original post, maybe but I think it's sorta a dumb move for a first real auto shotgun choice. There's so little use for a tactical shotgun other than waiting on a home invasion or running a three gun shoot. But a nice field or sporting shotgun offers hunting deer or waterfowl, small game, trap, skeet. Slugs, 00, or birdshot barrel chang -outs too.
I have 2k Italian and $350 Turkish guns that all do the same thing. just saying there's a lot out there that will do a whole lot more than one of those evil tactical black guns Hochul doesn't want anyone to buy anyways.

He didn't make any mention of purpose, I'm just making an assumption based off what I know of him. I certainly could be mistaken.
Personally I don't hunt so any firearms I purchase won't have that use in mind.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Why? They cost too much. I'd loke to have a 1301 bit I don't think I'll be putting the $1700 down on one anytime soon. If I need a scattergun I have my 590A1.

I know... i was just eggin the OP on. lol.
I`ve got a Mossberg 500 12ga that works fine for my needs.

 

[Robin]

I bought a cheap Remington 1100 about ten years ago, hard dull black finish, black plastic stock, came with two barrels, one for shot and one for slugs. I don't know what they go for now but this was dirt cheap, you can kick it down the road, throw it in a mud puddle, it still functions, and actually has a more appealing look to it.
Robin

 

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[FP1201]

I spent weeks researching, handling and even borrowing friends A300 ultima patrol and 1301 tactical to help me decide what was best. Too many time in the past I have either bought the cheaper gun and regretted it only to go back and buy the more expensive gun and Vice versa. I simply wanted to buy once, cry once.

I have an A300, but not a 1301...yet.
Would you be so kind as to expound on the differences as well as similarities between the two?
Accessories?
Modifications?
My thoughts from hands on both, but no actual side by side comparison was they are essentially the same action, but a sportier, more tactical difference between them.

 

[FP1201]

I bought a cheap Remington 1100 about ten years ago, hard dull black finish, black plastic stock, came with two barrels, one for shot and one for slugs. I don't know what they go for now but this was dirt cheap, you can kick it down the road, throw it in a mud puddle, it still functions, and actually has a more appealing look to it.
Robin

Mint to nice 1100's could invariably be found for 3-4-5 hundred Dollars until shit went crazy during covid and failure of Remington, now a po;isjed blue/gloss wood 1100 12 gauge is six or more, 20's are at 750, and .410's and 28's are easily over $1K and if you need replacement parts, they're going to come from e-bay at exorbitant prices.