Iran Attacking Israel
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spat
.950 JDJ
Iran doesn't have a delivery mechanism that could accomplish that. They are likely to have a nuke now, since Biden finished the help that Obama gave them in that department. But a nuke isn't an EMP until it's detonated at the right altitude.
Pretty sure Iran getting a nuke on a suborbital trajectory over the continental US is just beyond their capabilities.
So, the risk is zero now, and it was zero before, so that means it is unchanged.
spat
.950 JDJ
Sure, just like it was easy to ignore that Austrian dude with the funny mustache last time around.
Why should we give a fuck about some 3rd rate Austrian Duke getting killed in Europe. He doesn't mean anything to us over here.
And who cares if the Japanese invade China, that's way the fuck over there. Won't affect us at all, right ?
Austria was a tiny insignificant European nobody in the 20th century. A lot more insignificant than Iran.
Was it a good idea to ignore them ?
stokes
.338 Win Mag
We back Israel and Russia backs Iran. This is gonna be bigger than Israel and Iran alone. Not that I think Israel shouldnt nuke the fuckin Iranian muslim scum. Theres a reason these fuckers were emboldened enough for such an attack. I said it before, the next big war is gonna reach our shores this time.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Modern day lions, tigers and bears.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
According to FOX, tonight shitzpantz spoke with Bebe Netanyahu. Really, I don't understand how that could be true. Biden can hardly complete a sentence or two without a cheat sheet. And even then he fucks it up. How could he possibly carry on an intelligent, or intelligible conversation with Netanyahu about the Iranian attack? There must be someone at the Whitehouse that's able to mimic the sound of Bidens voice. Biden is not capable of an in depth conversation, much less discussing or determining any kind of solutions to such an event.
spat
.950 JDJ
It is our problem. It's just not obvious right now.
The world is a small place.
If you live on the 4th floor of an apartment building, and a guy on the first floor is cooking meth, do you say "not my problem until be blows the place up ?"
'Cause right now that guy's lighting his apartment and the one across the hall on fire.
It's more like worrying about your house flooding when your buddy in Florida leaves his garden hose on.
Believe it or not the Argumentum ad Hitlerum isn't very strong.
spat
.950 JDJ
Do you really think that the events in the middle east won't affect us here ?
Do you think the events in Ukraine haven't either ?
Florida may be a long ways away for a garden hose.
But everywhere in earth is an hour away by ICBM.
Maybe you think California is a long ways from NY too. Until Newsome comes up with some new gun control that Hochul just won't be out done by.
"Affect" != "Affect us in a manner in which we should respond and really screw ourselves. "
That perpetually running garden hose may eventually raise utility costs here. The answer still is not to drain the lakes in order to attempt to down Orlando.
The California thing was just a bizarre comparison. Washington state just had it's mag ban ruled unconstitutional. Should we continue life here like it won't affect us?
Yes.
spat
.950 JDJ
You old enough to remember the oil embargo of the 70s ?
No, that didn't affect us here at all.
And despite what the loons on the left cry, oil *is* worth fighting for. It is literally the life blood of modern society. Anything that affects that global market *does* affect us.
*Today* the Iranian proxy army in Yemen (aka Hezbollah *is* threatening global shipping through one of the most important channels in the world.
Like it or not, globalization means *everywhere* is our back yard now.
You can stick your head in the sand all you want, but that doesn't mean you won't get bit when the mess happens.
Wait... didn't we create the problem of making ourselves oil dependent on our own?
We'll fit it.
Not sold.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
did this happen?
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Iranian flight tests of their Shahab-3 medium-range missile
that can reach Israel and U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf have
in recent years involved several explosions at high altitude,
reportedly triggered by a self-destruct mechanism on the
missile. The Western press has described these flight tests as
failures because the missiles did not complete their ballistic
trajectories. Iran has officially described all of these same
tests as successful. The flight tests would be successful if
Iran were practicing the execution of an EMP attack.
Iran, as noted earlier, has also successfully tested firing
a missile from a vessel in the Caspian Sea. A nuclear missile
concealed in the hold of a freighter would give Iran, or
terrorists, the capability to perform an EMP attack against the
United States homeland without developing an ICBM, and with
some prospect of remaining anonymous. Iran's Shahab-3 medium-
range missile, mentioned earlier, is a mobile missile and small
enough to be transported in the hold of a freighter. We cannot
rule out that Iran, the world's leading sponsor of
international terrorism, might provide terrorists with the
means to execute an EMP attack against the United States.
In closing, a few observations about the potential EMP
threat from North Korea. North Korean academic writings
subscribe to the view voiced in Chinese, Russian, and Iranian
writings that computers and advanced communications have
inaugurated an information age during which the greatest
strength and greatest vulnerability of societies will be their
electronic infrastructures. According to North Korean press,
Chairman Kim Chong-Il is himself supposedly an avid proponent
of this view.
MARCH 8, 2005
Iran, estimated to be within 2 months of nuclear weapons by the administration, has a demonstrated capability to launch an EMP attack from a vessel at sea.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
Yes the MSM is a mouldering corpse and deservedly so.
I've found that the Epoch Times and a related outfit NTD are both very good.
Unfortunately, it appears you have to pay for honesty and integrity these days.
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pjzwtl
.308 Win
Was reading an article a few years back talking about the possibility of a ship based missal off the coast being able to deliver an emp from them since they don’t have the ability to do it from within their own borders. A simple cargo ship with a basic launcher hidden among the containers.
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Nope. They announced almost immediately afterwards that Brandon wouldn't be addressing anybody.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
She's and Congress are already holding them.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I keep telling people there will be another Crusades. One way or another.
It's pretty awesome that our strategy oil reserve is empty and they kick off ww3 after biden states he won't refill because too expensive.
I predict terrorists attacked and Marshall law. Which will give them the excuse to never have elections again.
This will lead up to door to door weapons confiscation to protect us
They are tried of having to hide.
I predict terrorists attacked and Marshall law. Which will give them the excuse to never have elections again.
This will lead up to door to door weapons confiscation to protect us
They are tried of having to hide.
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Iran has the capability to launch an unconventional EMP attack.
They very likely are an unofficial nuclear power. They have ballistic missiles.
They might not have intercontinental ICBMs but they might not need to. They can use medium range ballistic missiles in a "club K " type of launcher as a delivery method launched from a commercial vessel.
Think outside the box. It's the same failure that led assholes with box cutters to change the world.
Think of if you were Iran what would you do to level the playing field.
Launch a few coordinated offshore medium range ballistic missile EMPS from off the Atlantic, Gulf, Caribbean, Pacific from commerical ships and then scuttle them. It would be the black swan lightning bolt out of the blue
Before Risky Chrisky got banned on YouTube he repeatedly said worrying about who's counting the votes doesn't matter because they're not going to let us have elections. It sure seems to be going down that pathway.
Yeah they effect us immensely via our pocketbook as we shovel money over there for more money laundering.
Kinda like how we should have replaced our government when they created the private entity known as the FED?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Id bet that if Iran doesn't have a nuke, it has the persecutors to obtain one quickly . They have been running Nuclear power sites since we built it for them in the 60's or 70's. Pakistan offered to give them nukes in an event of a war with Israel too. Then there's the black market , where hundreds of Nukes went missing from the collapse of the soviet union .
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I believe in something along those lines ,where we wont get an election because of ...........something. The ol black swan event that some people predicted even though they are unpredictable.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
why not? What could go wrong?