The video has a good point. The hips hold up the rest of the body and arteries run through it.
Is Pelvic Shots A Good Defense Technique?
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The video has a good point. The hips hold up the rest of the body and arteries run through it.
I know from personal experience that pelvic shots are extremely effective.
While in Afghanistan and places... many of the enemies had heavy flac jackets or plate carriers covered by their goat skin jackets. You could not tell if they had any protection.
But they never had anything from the waist down. Head, pelvis and leg shots were common.
While in Afghanistan and places... many of the enemies had heavy flac jackets or plate carriers covered by their goat skin jackets. You could not tell if they had any protection.
But they never had anything from the waist down. Head, pelvis and leg shots were common.
Always advocated for this technique, especially since the bad guys started robbing banks with full body armor.
Old Jalopy
.45 acp
Don't have Twatter, X, Instapfft, and rarely on FaceFarce so I can never see posts like in the first. But face, crotch, and legs. #2 birdshot.
The pelvis is held together by three principal ligaments: iliolumbar, sacrotuberous and sacrospinous ligaments. These ligaments are important stabilizers. They also transfer significant energy from the torso to the lower extremities. As a result, they are susceptible to injury.
I seem to remember Soldiers being prohibited (in training) from kicking or hard strikes to the groin to avoid severely debilitating injuries...
Shooting someone in the pelvis is a "gut shot" and if they don't die on the spot, they'll wish they were dead.
I seem to remember Soldiers being prohibited (in training) from kicking or hard strikes to the groin to avoid severely debilitating injuries...
Shooting someone in the pelvis is a "gut shot" and if they don't die on the spot, they'll wish they were dead.
northny
.40 S&W
The caveat on the pelvis shot is that while it is effective in putting the opponent on the ground, it does not immediately take him out of the fight. It buys you time to end fight
My training was two in chest, but if opponent was upright then two in pelvis, then one in head. If opponent was obviously in body armor, skip the chest shots. But the pelvis shot does not stop opponent from using arms and chest to accurately shoot at you, you have not broken down his upper body.
My training was two in chest, but if opponent was upright then two in pelvis, then one in head. If opponent was obviously in body armor, skip the chest shots. But the pelvis shot does not stop opponent from using arms and chest to accurately shoot at you, you have not broken down his upper body.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
MikeM
.44 mag
I was taught if multiple opponents, shoot closest in pelvis to get his aim off of you. Kill shots to the second guy then kill shot back to first.
Right. Pelvis shots slow down the threat. If you have a threat coming at you and the torso shots have not stopped it, the pelvis shot will slow the advance buying time.
Two to the balls and one to the head. Threat might kill himself after that pain.
spat
.950 JDJ
The main advantage of torso shots is the large target area close to the center of mass. That means it can't change direction as quickly, and the zone of effectiveness is largest. Misses are likely to hit other effective areas of the target.
If you target COM and hit 10 inches high, that's still going to be very effective LoL.
Pelvis has the advantage over the head that it's less mobile and more predictable.
It's main disadvantage over the head is that it's less effective.
But, one things sure. If you get a pelvis hit in, on your attacket, you're not going to have a hard time escaping anyway.
If you target COM and hit 10 inches high, that's still going to be very effective LoL.
Pelvis has the advantage over the head that it's less mobile and more predictable.
It's main disadvantage over the head is that it's less effective.
But, one things sure. If you get a pelvis hit in, on your attacket, you're not going to have a hard time escaping anyway.
spat
.950 JDJ
2 to the head, one to the other head ?
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
It's part of the 3H strategy for firefight training and battle.
Heart, Head, Hips ....
All three were considered in play as situations and opportunities dictated for neutralizing targets ... pretty much for the reasons, logic and priorities mentioned.
Heart, Head, Hips ....
All three were considered in play as situations and opportunities dictated for neutralizing targets ... pretty much for the reasons, logic and priorities mentioned.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Just remember Dick Head. He was, and you'll be fine.
Robin
Robin
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
ELON MUSK reposted this video. Damn! Talk about amplifying a post.
Also, less chance of the jury finding you guilty of something as well since you did not 'shoot to kill'.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Most women will shoot you in the balls out of principle.
It may not take them out of the fight, but most of the time it takes the fight out of them. A 165 grain .357 mag round in the right groin makes MOST bad guys give up instantaneously.
I was referring to the head guys think with the most.
If you hit an artery just wait 2 mins behind cover.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Side benefit, that's a shot that angles towards the ground. Less chance you're hitting someone in the distance behind them if you don't notice someone behind the shooter since it shouldn't travel as far if it passes through.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I’m sure shooting some one in the pelvic area would be immensely painful and slow them down. Also as stated many areas with huge amounts of blood flow there. I think it’s a good alternative or option when compared to center mass. Lungs and heart are the best and lots of blood flow to those areas as well. To me for the most part anyone shot outside of the arms is a good hit and will do some damage slowing them down while providing you the upper hand. Yes some areas a better than others.
spat
.950 JDJ
Talking about your 2 best friends, and not the ones in the Winnebago.
There was a great video I watched once explain shot placement. Lungs are terrible place to shoot. Heart and arteries (pumpers) are second best but still allow someone to keep fighting for a couple more mins. The only place to shoot someone to completely take them out of the fight is the brain (switch).
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Uzi
.308 Win
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
If you suspect body armor, yeah. I train to shoot where my eyes are. My target a blank piece of card board. You do not want to install the habit of center mass. 
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
For sure most people will still keep fighting for a few minutes and that’s to be expected. Only Hollywood thinks when you shoot someone in the chest they drop dead immediately.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
So true. Everyone knows of course brain stem shot, lights out. Heart shot is very quick too. Then any large arteries. The objective is to get the blood pressure to zero as quickly as possible. Stop the heart or bleed out very quick. A large drop in BP and the person goes unconscious. The pelvic region has a large artery.