its been talked about before...should NY cut off its tail!!

[2WheelGnnr]

Proposed yet again that NY should be two states??

Splitting NY into two states? That's what one Assemblyman is proposing.

cut off the dead tail!!

 

[masterswimmer]

The legislators from downstate know they can't do without the tax revenue from upstate. Therefore they will never even let the proposal reach the floor for a vote. The same catch-22 applies. There's too many downstate legislators to defeat the upstate vote.

 

[Criticalt]

Yes.
The people who dont want to split the state say it wouldnt work because upstate takes more money from the state than they put in.
However, id be willing to pay more taxes to a state that represents me and my views.
Id also be more likely to donate even more money to support projects and charities I agree with.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Cut off the tail right above the anus. The anuses get to stay with the old state.

 

[Bob]

Yes.
Next question.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Cut off the tail right above the anus. The anuses get to stay with the old state.

.....make sure the balls get lopped off too.

 

[JohnD13]

By all means, cut them off. Alternatively to that, put an electoral college system in place for state offices. Cuomo would never see another term and the late cities lock on state government may get broken.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Agreed atleast then I know my tax monies would represent my region and my vote has voice and counts a little. for every upstate vote im sure its countered by 5 downstate votes....

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Got to keep trying.

 

[Deplorable Me]

By all means, cut them off. Alternatively to that, put an electoral college system in place for state offices. Cuomo would never see another term and the late cities lock on state government may get broken.

The NY state constitution is flawed. No provisions for term limits, recall of idiots or impeachment of governor. No 100% mirroring of the federal constitution either.

 

[Target]

The NYC folks say that Upstate is a financial drain on them. Their tax dollars are spent on welfare for us hicks.

It will never happen.
The water sources and electricity generators

 

[Podmonkey]

Of course this should happen.
As for the supposed "takes more than provides" thing regarding tax revenues.......
First I have always thought that was a crock of shit.
Second the regions that provide NYC with electricity, water, gas and garbage disposal can simply charge their fair rate for such utilities and achieve fiscal solvency through these means.

 

[Bulldog51]

Yes! The reason why?

The NYC residents elect state legislators to write and vote for state laws and those politicians exempt NYC with home-rule leaving the rest of us to live by their decree.

I am sure our tax situation would be better if we were not controlled by NYC.

Doubt it will ever happen though

 

[Jmac]

Anything South of Tappan Zee Bridge should our DMZ or new state. build a wall to protect us from NYC scum

 

[@thewheels]

 

[Jmac00]

The legislators from downstate know they can't do without the tax revenue from upstate. Therefore they will never even let the proposal reach the floor for a vote. The same catch-22 applies. There's too many downstate legislators to defeat the upstate vote.

oddly, the Rotten apple thinks THEY supply upstate with THEIR taxes. freak'n idiots

 

[togmaster]

Anything South of Tappan Zee Bridge should our DMZ or new state. build a wall to protect us from NYC scum

Deal! You get Albany and all its contents.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Should it happen? Yes.
Will it? Probably not.

 

[Saltwater60]

Of course, but it so t happen.

 

[MilesTeg]

Yes.
The people who dont want to split the state say it wouldnt work because upstate takes more money from the state than they put in.
However, id be willing to pay more taxes to a state that represents me and my views.
Id also be more likely to donate even more money to support projects and charities I agree with.

I'm with you but I would also bet we our spending would go WAY down. Think about all the programs and unfunded mandates that wouldn't be required if we didn't have city running things. I don;t think it would take much to bring an upstate separate government into financial stability.

 

[ProgSpear]

NYC pulls this "Home Rule" crap on the state at large, so why can't we?

 

[Tinman]

Make sure Albany and all of the current legislators and the Governor goes with them. We need a complete new state. No left overs from the swamp. It should be the western 7 or 8 counties that make up the new state. But sadly, it will never happen. I will move out of state before it goes anywhere.

 

[prambo]

Yes.
The people who dont want to split the state say it wouldnt work because upstate takes more money from the state than they put in.
However, id be willing to pay more taxes to a state that represents me and my views.
Id also be more likely to donate even more money to support projects and charities I agree with.

The NYC folks say that Upstate is a financial drain on them. Their tax dollars are spent on welfare for us hicks.

It will never happen.
The water sources and electricity generators

I don't believe this in the least, because...........DemonRats. They're liars, that's what they do.

 

[GOYABEAN]

And don't forget to turn the water supply off also

 

[av8r]

Upstate would be able to charge urinetown for water, power, etc. We'd all be rich...I'd walk around screaming:

"WHO RUNS BARTERTOWN?"

 

[Acer-m14]

yes fkin split .. tell every dem to split and back OAC .. AOC's has the Green Deal for them ..

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

It makes so much sense that it will never happen.

0.000% chance downstate politicians willing give up power and our tax base. We are captive to bring raped financially to support their far left agenda.

If we split upstate NY from downstate we would politically be more like PA or OH than what ny is now .

 

[Bob]

Yes.
The people who dont want to split the state say it wouldnt work because upstate takes more money from the state than they put in.
However, id be willing to pay more taxes to a state that represents me and my views.
Id also be more likely to donate even more money to support projects and charities I agree with.

There's also the issue of taxes, fees, and overall cost of doing business going down because of the unreasonable taxes and laws being foisted upon us by NYS politicians. Auto lease regulations. Insurance requirements. Scaffold laws. And on. And on. And on. We wouldn't NEED as much money if we weren't so highly (and unnecessarily) regulated.

 

[Exonautic]

It's insane, both sides of the debate believe their part of the state is paying more than their fair share. Id love to see the state split, however I'm on long island which means I'd be even further behind enemy lines. Suffolk is like the last bastion of gun owners downstate.

 

[MadScientist]

Pretty interesting. My state senator Antonacci sent out a survey through the NYS Senate website which asked this question. Seems like he’s gauging it’s popularity in his district.
Perhaps at least some of our reps are open to the idea.
Really I can’t see a feasible reason why not, other than downstate enjoying our subjugation to their will.