Just a place to talk about Kalashnikov rifles

[meketrefe]

They are overpriced for what they are and complex to service, but they are good guns.

 

[Podmonkey]

They are overpriced for what they are and complex to service, but they are good guns.

Price is subjective, most AKs are more expensive than ARs now and the ACE is built to a higher spec than most. Milled receivers ain't cheap.
And they aren't any more complex to service than any Kalashnikov pattern. Less complex really, the is no rear sight block. There isn't much to service to begin with, the only thing you'd need a gunsmith for is the barrel.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

There isn't much to service to begin with, the only thing you'd need a gunsmith for is the barrel.

Or do you?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Or do you?

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I really wanted to do my own build the I saw the price of the specialsp tools and decided I'm goo hahaha. I still may eventually snag up a lower receiver or 2 one of these days

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I really wanted to do my own build the I saw the price of the specialsp tools and decided I'm goo hahaha. I still may eventually snag up a lower receiver or 2 one of these days

What tools did you look at? I used Toth tools. Like everything else it's good if you build more than one. I only needed it to build the 74u and then sold it all. You can always sell these tools and recoup some of your money.

 

[Edwardteach72]

What tools did you look at? I used Toth tools. Like everything else it's good if you build more than one. I only needed it to build the 74u and then sold it all. You can always sell these tools and recoup some of your money.

I believe it was toth tools, I saw a video on YouTube some dude made about how to build a complete AK at the kitchen table. And mentioned whatever company that made the tools he used. Including something to press the barrel

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yup toth lol. I really wanted to see how much work it would be to build an 80% 74

 

[Edwardteach72]

Looks like a Bulgarian parts kit is about 500, and if I remember correct a reciever is around 100ish

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

If you ever end up going for a receiver get a nodak spud. Depending on how involved you wanna get you can make a "ghost gun" by bending some flats.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Holy balls never mind just found one for 40 monies

 

[Edwardteach72]

If you ever end up going for a receiver get a nodak spud. Depending on how involved you wanna get you can make a "ghost gun" by bending some flats.

I did watch some of the video on building an AK from a shovel.

Oh and yea the reciever I just found is a Waffen Werks for 40

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Looks like a Bulgarian parts kit is about 500, and if I remember correct a reciever is around 100ish

Yeah you really don't save money at all building aks anymore. The kits used to be dirt cheap but now they're expensive. And if that kit doesn't come with a barrel that's even more money. The only reasons to build an AK are for the love of it, you want a gun no one knows about or like me if you find a killer deal on a rare parts kit for a semi rare gun and are forced to build it.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yeah you really don't save money at all building aks anymore. The kits used to be dirt cheap but now they're expensive. And if that kit doesn't come with a barrel that's even more money. The only reasons to build an AK are for the love of it, you want a gun no one knows about or like me if you find a killer deal on a rare parts kit for a semi rare gun and are forced to build it.

Yea I mean I want to because I feel like it could be kinda fun but I know even if I tried I would not be building the most quality rifle.

Buttttt I could try an do a sweet Khyber Pass clone hahhaa

 

[Edwardteach72]

Hey Pod. These Rs_regulators handguards for the Galil pistol with handstop look pretty mean

 

[Edwardteach72]

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

But the AK is old and outdated and too heavy and inaccurate and doesn't shoot far enough wah wah wah

Epic intro BTW.

 

[meketrefe]

Price is subjective, most AKs are more expensive than ARs now and the ACE is built to a higher spec than most. Milled receivers ain't cheap.
And they aren't any more complex to service than any Kalashnikov pattern. Less complex really, the is no rear sight block. There isn't much to service to begin with, the only thing you'd need a gunsmith for is the barrel.

That is the thing no matter what they continue to be AKs.

 

[Podmonkey]

That is the thing no matter what they continue to be AKs.

So....... you think all AKs are overpriced then?

 

[Edwardteach72]

So....... you think all AKs are overpriced then?

It's funny how people think that just because back in the 80s/90s and even early 2000s AKs could be had for sks prices,

Why because of how mass produced they were by the comblock countries that they were imported from.

That's drying up, and AKs are pretty labor intensive to build unlike an AR. And sadly cheap new AKs aren't going to be good, new good aks aren't going to be cheap

 

[Edwardteach72]

I'll go out on a limp and say you've already seen this @Podmonkey

But I'm watching it again and i remembered your one thread about that double ammo

 

[Podmonkey]

That thing is waaaaay over complexicated.

 

[Edwardteach72]

That thing is waaaaay over complexicated.

But sooo cool

 

[Edwardteach72]

And then the wonderful 107

 

[Podmonkey]

But sooo cool

I think it's a mechanical catastrophe that would never survive the battlefield. And it seems like the Russians think the same thing or they would have adopted it.

 

[Edwardteach72]

One of those sounds good in theory but not practical for war

 

[Edwardteach72]

One of those sounds good in theory but not practical for war

 

[Podmonkey]

And then the wonderful 107

I like that extended rail setup at the end.

 

[Podmonkey]

@Edwardteach72, get this one:

It looks crazy cool if you ask me.
@Willjr75, if you don't think that looks awesome you're nuts!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I wanna see the AK 201. The 94 2 shot burst mechanism with the counter weight mechanism.

 

[Edwardteach72]

@Edwardteach72, get this one:
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It looks crazy cool if you ask me.
@Willjr75, if you don't think that looks awesome you're nuts!

If I had a G laying around I would snag one of these up, downside is they never seem to have them in stock or I hear shipping can take like 12-14 months